Monday, May 7th 2018

Intel Prepares Cascade Lake Architecture to Rival AMD's EPYC Offering

An anonymous user from VideoCardz shared two PowerPoint slides from an Intel 'Saudi Conference' containing information on Intel's upcoming Cascade Lake server architecture. Cascade Lake will support processors with up to 28 cores, which seems pretty weak considering that AMD's second-generation EPYC processors are rumored to be packing 64 cores. However, AMD only offers dual socket support for EPYC processors which means that a system can house up to 128 physical cores at best. Intel, on the other hand, will not only be offering dual and quad, but also octa-socket support with Cascade Lake to bring the maximum physical core count to 224 for a single system. On another note, Cascade Lake will also support up to six channels of DDR4 memory and 48 PCIe lanes per processor.
Source: VideoCardz
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22 Comments on Intel Prepares Cascade Lake Architecture to Rival AMD's EPYC Offering

#2
Athlonite
At probably 4 times the price
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#3
MDDB
Oh, "glueless 8S", that's funny! :)
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#4
HammerOn1024
Good. So there might actually be competition in the x86 server space? I'll bring popcorn.

AMDs response will be to add more lanes to interconnect more CPUs.
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#5
Tomgang
i think i can just keep it going with one 28 core cpu:peace:
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#6
ghazi
Skylake-SP supports 8P... as does Broadwell-EX and every other high-end socketed server offering from Intel in recent memory... So far all of the features and specifications mentioned are identical to Skylake-SP.
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#7
geon2k2
AMD leading the way and taking risks like a true Pioneer, while intel ... happy to follow ....
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#8
Vayra86
Soon there's a new punchline for Intel

'MOAR SOCKETS'
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#9
SetsunaFZero
"Athlonite said:
At probably 4 times the price
Would be my guess too.
If it weren't for AMD, we wouldn't see this Server Architecture from Intel probably not in the next decade.
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#10
BiggieShady
"MDDB said:
Oh, "glueless 8S", that's funny! :)
More like clueless ... they should have said "our-glue-is-better-than-amd-glue 8S"
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#11
Ebo
But can you play minecraft on it ?.
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#12
Patriot
Your Math is bad and you should feel bad. 64c/socket *2sockets *SMT =256T
That said it will probably be 48c/socket... for 192 threads per system.

Looks like you made the same mistake on Intel... logical cores means threads...
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#13
efikkan
Cascade Lake-X/-SP is the expected refresh of Skylake-X/-SP. It's should feature DDR4-2933, and other minor stuff, but overall it's just a refresh of Skylake-X/-SP.

It will be the first Intel CPUs to feature the Spectre/Meltdown "hardware mitigations".
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#14
mtcn77
"Vayra86 said:
Soon there's a new punchline for Intel

'MOAR SOCKETS'
Oh, the culling! Entire swaths of rabid fanboys razed by the laser piercing fury of Intel the chaser. I would like to see them repeat the same old proverbs, again.
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#15
Fluffmeister
The advantange for Intel is their customers don't have to say "no seriously, I mean E P Y C" over the phone.
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#16
Caring1
Does the purchase price include your own nuclear power station to power it?
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#17
Chloe Price
"Ebo said:
But can you play minecraft on it ?.
Nah, that's crappy game... but is it powerful enough for 10 cat videos on the same time?
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#18
TheGuruStud
"Caring1 said:
Does the purchase price include your own nuclear power station to power it?
It comes with a 250lb box of super capacitors and lithium batteries for when you run avx 512...and then still gets beaten by threadripper lol.
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#19
eidairaman1
The Exiled Airman
So who's rolling in the greenback to buy either an EPYC 2-8 Way or this?
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#20
Hugh Mungus
"HammerOn1024 said:
Good. So there might actually be competition in the x86 server space? I'll bring popcorn.

AMDs response will be to add more lanes to interconnect more CPUs.
And 7nm could at least double core count without too much fuss I suppose. Infinity fabric-ed mobos anyone?
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#21
Imsochobo
Core counts are wrong, replace word core with thread.

And 8 socket = more memory but licenses are per cpu and not core usually.
95% of the market is in the 2p systems.

Until Intel does MCM it doesn't mean much.
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#22
Patriot
"Imsochobo said:
Core counts are wrong, replace word core with thread.

And 8 socket = more memory but licenses are per cpu and not core usually.
95% of the market is in the 2p systems.

Until Intel does MCM it doesn't mean much.
No, he fixed that from threads last night... An 8p with 8x 28c has 224c/448t yes it is that insane. He is still potentially wrong about Rome core counts. Probably 48c/96t/socket.
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