Monday, May 14th 2018

43" Wasabi Mango UHD430 is World's First Commercially Available 120 Hz, 4K Gaming Monitor

Well, that wasn't so easy to see coming: that the world's first commercially available 120 Hz, 4K monitor would come to consumers' options via not one of the tech giants such as LG or Samsung, but a relatively low-key company out here in the west. Korea-based Wasabi Mango has started distributing their 43" UHD430 monitor, which brings with it (almost all) the amenities of a high-performance gaming monitor.

The UHD430 is additionally being marketed with HDR support, though it's the entry-level 400 nits brightness achieved here - a far cry from the generally accepted 1000 nits sweet spot. The panel is an IPS affair with 1200:1 static contrast ratio, 4:4:4 chroma support, a pretty respectable 5 ms response time, and a smattering of display connections: 3x HDMI 2.0 ports, 2x DisplayPort 1.4, 1x Toslink optical audio output, and 1x USB port. Sadly, FreeSync doesn't seem to be active for this panel. For users to achieve the 120 Hz 4K frequency and resolution, the dual DisplayPort outputs must be used. Otherwise, there's just not enough bandwidth for the awesome images being thrown to the display's pipeline. The 43" Wasabi Mango is available with free shipping for a surprising $1,399.
Sources: Blur Busters, YouTube 120Hz 4K test video
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63 Comments on 43" Wasabi Mango UHD430 is World's First Commercially Available 120 Hz, 4K Gaming Monitor

#1
dj-electric
I request a shrinkage please. I really don't get the 40"+ trend that NVIDIA is leading with these.
Can we get all of this in 26-28"?
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#2
bug
400 nits does not translate automatically to HDR400. It could be 400 nits typical, with 1000 nits peak brightness. It probably isn't, but the possibility is there.
Also, HDR with no mention of local dimming? :wtf:
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#3
jabbadap
dj-electric said:
I request a shrinkage please. I really don't get the 40"+ trend that NVIDIA is leading with these.
Can we get all of this in 26-28"?
You mean like these:
https://www.acer.com/ac/en/GB/content/predator-series/predatorx27
https://www.asus.com/us/Monitors/ROG-SWIFT-PG27UQ/

They are available now, but asking price is very high(2499€ for Acer one where I live).

bug said:
400 nits does not translate automatically to HDR400. It could be 400 nits typical, with 1000 nits peak brightness. It probably isn't, but the possibility is there.
Also, HDR with no mention of local dimming? :wtf:
I very much doubt that, monitors are almost always marketed by the peak values. I.E. DisplayHDR 400 spec says Peak luminance of 400 cd/m². But yeah no local dimming no displayHDR spec, could be good non-HDR gaming TV still though.
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#5
bug
Prima.Vera said:
This is a TV not a monitor....
That has always been a problem with 4k: usable diagonals are just above the size you're comfortable with on a desk. If you do photo editing, CAD or something, I imagine you have to some serious rearrangemet of your station to fit a 4k baby in there and still be able to work with it comfortably.
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#6
R-T-B
Prima.Vera said:
This is a TV not a monitor....
Needs multiple inputs, and/or a tuner & speakers before I can agree with you there.
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#7
medi01
Raevenlord said:
the generally accepted 1000 nits sweet spot
I accept 1000nits "sweet spot" on a monitor as "hurt my eyes", generally.
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#8
kastriot
Total crap in price&everything else..
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#9
jabbadap
R-T-B said:
Needs multiple inputs, and/or a tuner & speakers before I can agree with you there.
Wonder if it can work 4k@120Hz without hdr and lower color depth/Chroma settings. DP1.4 has bandwidth to drive 4k@120Hz at 8 bpc 4:4:4 or 10 bpc 4:2:2.

But it will probably just work with one cable though(Hdmi or DP), it will just run as regular 4k 60Hz TV.
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#10
RH92
dj-electric said:
I request a shrinkage please. I really don't get the 40"+ trend that NVIDIA is leading with these.
Can we get all of this in 26-28"?
See what you mean but to be fair above 28" is where 4k truly makes sense !
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#11
csgabe
I want a Wasabi Pineapple.
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#12
Vayra86
There's a reason this is the first one

Its a product that makes no sense, trying to sell on specs alone
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#13
bug
medi01 said:
I accept 1000nits "sweet spot" on a monitor as "hurt my eyes", generally.
Fwiw, for comfortable use you're supposed to calibrate for the whiteness of a sheet of paper. And that's 120nits. But of course, when you want to render the Sun faithfully you're going to need more than that. And if you want to "comfortably" render Vega (the star), you're going to need more still.

I'm not familiar with existing HDR content, but as far as I understand those 1000nits are supposedly needed for brief sunlight flashes and stuff. You won't really notice if your monitor/TV "only" rendered that at 600nits, you'd be just as blinded momentarily.
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#14
Aquinus
Resident Wat-man
R-T-B said:
Needs multiple inputs, and/or a tuner & speakers before I can agree with you there.
3xHDMI 2.0, 2xDisplayPort 1.4, and an Optical Audio Output? Sounds like a TV to me minus a tuner but, my TV has a tuner and I don't use it because of the cable box so... I'd call that a TV.
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#15
phill
Finally something with Display Port 1.4 inputs.....
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#16
Rivage
Wasabi Mango? This name scares me af. Sounds like shiit
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#17
R-T-B
Aquinus said:
3xHDMI 2.0, 2xDisplayPort 1.4, and an Optical Audio Output? Sounds like a TV to me minus a tuner but, my TV has a tuner and I don't use it because of the cable box so... I'd call that a TV.
Caught me not reading the specs I fear... yep, I agree with you.
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silentbogo
bug said:
That has always been a problem with 4k: usable diagonals are just above the size you're comfortable with on a desk. If you do photo editing, CAD or something, I imagine you have to some serious rearrangemet of your station to fit a 4k baby in there and still be able to work with it comfortably.
That's why I settled on a 24" 4K panel from samsung. It's only 60Hz, but more than enough for work and typical in-house usage.

Rivage said:
Wasabi Mango? This name scares me af. Sounds like shiit
It's like Xiaomi or Clevo of gaming monitors. Very famous and well known, if you follow hardware trends.
Or famous like shiit, but not selling niche products :D
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#19
bug
silentbogo said:
That's why I settled on a 24" 4K panel from samsung. It's only 60Hz, but more than enough for work and typical in-house usage.
I'm pretty sure you have to scale at 24", thus defeating the purpose of 4k. That is a complementary issue with 4k: get a monitor that you can use at the typical distance and you don't see 4k :(
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#20
silentbogo
bug said:
I'm pretty sure you have to scale at 24", thus defeating the purpose of 4k. That is a complementary issue with 4k: get a monitor that you can use at the typical distance and you don't see 4k :(
Definitely not an issue for me. Not sure where you've got the idea of scaling problems or "not seeing" the 4K on smaller displays, but in my case the monitor is about 80-100cm away from my eyes, and I can see a big difference between FHD and 4K cause I work with schematics and CAD files for PCB layouts. I don't think I had to use zoom lately, cause I can simply look a bit closer and see what I need to see. All the vector stuff, including PDF files and text looks amazing. Same goes for 4K videos. The difference is day and night.
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#21
Octavean
Aquinus said:
3xHDMI 2.0, 2xDisplayPort 1.4, and an Optical Audio Output? Sounds like a TV to me minus a tuner but, my TV has a tuner and I don't use it because of the cable box so... I'd call that a TV.
Some might say that but most would probably take note that very few TV's have DisplayPort of any kind let alone two DP 1.4 ports.

On the other hand, a number of TV models from well known manufacturers have made 4K models so thin that they had to omit tuners but still retained the marketing name of TV. This is probably because they were bundled with external tuners in a quasi soundbar configuration that connects via ribbon cable. So a TV can be called a TV without an internal tuner.

Its still extremely rare to see a DP on a TV though. I only came across one model and it was outrageously priced.
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#24
Prima.Vera
Aquinus said:
3xHDMI 2.0, 2xDisplayPort 1.4, and an Optical Audio Output? Sounds like a TV to me minus a tuner but, my TV has a tuner and I don't use it because of the cable box so... I'd call that a TV.
Aye. You put a cable box to HDMI anyways... Which is 60Hz max anyways and no HDR or 10bit support either :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
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#25
bug
silentbogo said:
Definitely not an issue for me. Not sure where you've got the idea of scaling problems or "not seeing" the 4K on smaller displays, but in my case the monitor is about 80-100cm away from my eyes, and I can see a big difference between FHD and 4K cause I work with schematics and CAD files for PCB layouts. I don't think I had to use zoom lately, cause I can simply look a bit closer and see what I need to see. All the vector stuff, including PDF files and text looks amazing. Same goes for 4K videos. The difference is day and night.
Like you said, at 24" 4k details are too fine, you have to close in to see them. Thus, at regular working distance, you're not seeing 4k. You're seeing something better than FHD (that's why you can tell the difference), but not 4k. Also, are you saying for text you're not using any scaling?
For my programming needs 24" seems small most of the time, I can't imagine 24" being too comfortable for CAD work. But larger 4k displays in Eastern Europe tend to cost an arm and a leg so you gotta compromise somewhere :(
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