Tuesday, July 10th 2018

GIGABYTE Aorus X399 Extreme Motherboard Pictured, Threadripper II TDP Confirmed

AMD's second generation Ryzen Threadripper processors will be accompanied by a new wave of socket TR4 motherboards (while the processors themselves are very much compatible with existing TR4 motherboards with BIOS updates). At Computex, we had already seen one of these, with the MSI X399 Creation, and now it's GIGABYTE's turn with the X399 Aorus Extreme. A leaked slide details not just the motherboard, but also confirms the TDP of the upcoming 24-core and 32-core Threadripper II models - 250 W.

This explains why these latest socket TR4 motherboards have heavy CPU VRM designs. The X399 Aorus Extreme employs a 10+3 phase VRM, drawing power from a pair of 8-pin EPS connectors. The board is almost entirely enveloped in metal and plastic, with a metal back-plate covering most of the reverse side, a rear I/O shroud with integrated I/O shield, which runs the length of the board, and a large chipset heatsink that extends into an M.2 heatsink for the board's third M.2 slot, with heatsinks over the other two. The TR4 socket is flanked by eight DDR4 DIMM slots. You get four PCI-Express 3.0 x16 slots, from which two run at full x16 bandwidth. Networking includes 10 GbE besides two 1 GbE interfaces, 802.11ac WLAN + Bluetooth 5.0, and a number of USB 3.1 ports.
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21 Comments on GIGABYTE Aorus X399 Extreme Motherboard Pictured, Threadripper II TDP Confirmed

#1
dj-electric
I'm skeptical about any 10+3 system being able to handle the OC of a 32 core ryzen CPU well...
There's plenty of trouble enough for 16 core parts on some X399 boards as it is.

btw high res pics of this board exist on several sites.
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#2
IceShroom
Again Theadripper 2 insted Theadripper 2nd Gen or Treadripper 2000 serise????
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#3
Xx Tek Tip xX
dj-electric said:
I'm skeptical about any 10+3 system being able to handle the OC of a 32 core ryzen CPU well...
There's plenty of trouble enough for 16 core parts on some X399 boards as it is.

btw high res pics of this board exist on several sites.
Your joking? Take a look at x299 as long as it has good power delivery and dual 8 pins it can handle tons, The i9 xe cpu can draw 500w+ overclocked under dual 8 pins and the top motherboards are capable, no reason the x399's aren't and it's not about cores but power usage for motherboard vrms/power delivery.
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#4
RH92
Xx Tek Tip xX said:
Your joking? Take a look at x299 as long as it has good power delivery and dual 8 pins it can handle tons, The i9 xe cpu can draw 500w+ overclocked under dual 8 pins and the top motherboards are capable, no reason the x399's aren't and it's not about cores but power usage for motherboard vrms/power delivery.
Higher end X399 boards ( 8 phase for VCore ) can " IN THEORY " ( you will be heat limited before ) handle a maximum of 480A ( assuming you use 60A VRMs ) and extrapolations from 2700X lead to believe that a 32c TR part based on Zen+ will need around 420A at 1.35V .

Needless to say that at 420A you are way above the maximum efficiency range of the VRM's on those boards ( around half of the maximum rated wich means 240A ) so you will overheat MASSIVELY !

You need 14+ phases at 60A ( again only for VCore ) in order to stay in the efficiency range and that's only at 1.35V ( knowing that you can go UP to 1.4V with Zen+ ) !
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#5
Xx Tek Tip xX
RH92 said:
Higher end X399 boards ( 8 phase for VCore ) can " IN THEORY " ( you will be heat limited before ) handle a maximum of 480A ( assuming you use 60A VRMs ) and extrapolations from 2700X lead to believe that a 32c TR part based on Zen+ will need around 420A at 1.35V .

Needless tout say that at 420A you are way above the maximum efficiency range for the VRM's on those boards ( around half of the maximum rated wich means 240A ) so you will overheat MASSIVELY !

You need 14+ phases at 60A ( again only for VCore ) in order to stay in the efficiency range ans that's only at 1.35V ( knowing that you can go UP to 1.4V with Zen+ ) !
It will probably handle it stock then
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RH92
Xx Tek Tip xX said:
It will probably handle it stock then
Yes it should do the trick at stock but forget about OCing on this board especially if Gigabyte uses 50A VRMs the way they did on their previous X399 boards .
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eidairaman1
The Exiled Airman
IceShroom said:
Again Theadripper 2 insted Theadripper 2nd Gen or Treadripper 2000 serise????
Threadripper + 2000 series

RH92 said:
Higher end X399 boards ( 8 phase for VCore ) can " IN THEORY " ( you will be heat limited before ) handle a maximum of 480A ( assuming you use 60A VRMs ) and extrapolations from 2700X lead to believe that a 32c TR part based on Zen+ will need around 420A at 1.35V .

Needless to say that at 420A you are way above the maximum efficiency range for the VRM's on those boards ( around half of the maximum rated wich means 240A ) so you will overheat MASSIVELY !

You need 14+ phases at 60A ( again only for VCore ) in order to stay in the efficiency range and that's only at 1.35V ( knowing that you can go UP to 1.4V with Zen+ ) !
You can as buildzoid here.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrwObTfqv8u1KO7Fgk-FXHQ
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#8
dj-electric
Xx Tek Tip xX said:
Your joking? Take a look at x299 as long as it has good power delivery and dual 8 pins it can handle tons
Had a good laugh on this one. X299 is disastrous with countless models. Many boards completely cripple under the load of HCC CPUs.
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#9
iO
500 watts at 1.35V is 37A per phase for a 10 phase VRM which isnt too much for a good heatsink. Unless it's designed for looks and not for cooling...
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#10
Totally
IceShroom said:
Again Theadripper 2 insted Theadripper 2nd Gen or Treadripper 2000 serise????
To acknowledge your post:

Threadripper 2 implies Threadripper 2nd Gen, Not being a fan of rendundancy, I prefer the former.

As for 2000 series, it's not Threadripper 1000 series, so why start?
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#11
IceShroom
Totally said:
To acknowledge your post:

Threadripper 2 implies Threadripper 2nd Gen, Not being a fan of rendundancy, I prefer the former.

As for 2000 series, it's not Threadripper 1000 series, so why start?
Core 8 i7 8700K is a better name. Or new Core 9 i5 9600. Isn't it?
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#12
Totally
IceShroom said:
Core 8 i7 8700K is a better name. Or new Core 9 i5 9600. Isn't it?
"Core i#" is the brand name" e.g. Core i9 = Threadripper and Core i7/5/3 = Ryzen 7/5/3, they don't contain generational identifiers. AMD does their thing, Intel does their thing, let's not muddy the water with nonsense.
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#13
IceShroom
Totally said:
"Core i#" is the brand name" e.g. Core i9 = Threadripper and Core i7/5/3 = Ryzen, they don't contain generational identifiers. AMD does their thing, Intel does their thing, let's not muddy the water with nonsense.
Ryzen is also a Branding,under which AMD sells their Desktop and High End Desktop processor. Like Ryzen 7 serise means highest performing processor for normal desktop and Ryzen 3 means entry level desktop processor.
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#14
DeathtoGnomes
consider, maybe, that each VRM is rated at 55-60 amps (give or take a few), that still isnt enough to do any real overclocking with TR2. You might get a mild OC, but from what I've been gathering, even that runs the risk of melting components easily enough. Its not the draw so much as the heat dissipation. It all suggests OC should be done only with LN2 cooling.
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#15
IceShroom
DeathtoGnomes said:
consider, maybe, that each VRM is rated at 55-60 amps (give or take a few), that still isnt enough to do any real overclocking with TR2. You might get a mild OC, but from what I've been gathering, even that runs the risk of melting components easily enough. Its not the draw so much as the heat dissipation. It all suggests OC should be done only with LN2 cooling.
People are realy thinking away much. TR 2nd gen will have 16 and 12 core too. Those will not pull that much power.And 32 TR at stock will not pull more than 230-280A which all existant X399 board can support.
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#16
Metroid
DeathtoGnomes said:
consider, maybe, that each VRM is rated at 55-60 amps (give or take a few), that still isnt enough to do any real overclocking with TR2. You might get a mild OC, but from what I've been gathering, even that runs the risk of melting components easily enough. Its not the draw so much as the heat dissipation. It all suggests OC should be done only with LN2 cooling.
If I buy this then I will undervolt it and keep stock clock, Hopefully i will save 30% on power by undervolting it. 250 w - 75 = 175w. I used to overclock cpus and I always found the power it uses for some extra clock is not worth the electricity.
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#17
Totally
IceShroom said:
Ryzen is also a Branding,under which AMD sells their Desktop and High End Desktop processor. Like Ryzen 7 serise means highest performing processor for normal desktop and Ryzen 3 means entry level desktop processor.
Yes but TR is different in that it doesn't delineate in that way, Hence Threadripper 2 models are going to be Threadripper 2XXX but collectively can be truncated to Threadripper 2.
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#18
eidairaman1
The Exiled Airman
Totally said:
Yes but TR is different in that it doesn't delineate in that way, Hence Threadripper 2 models are going to be Threadripper 2XXX but collectively can be truncated to Threadripper 2.
TR 1950, TR+ 2950, TR2 3950, TR2+(Tentative) 4950 etc...
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#19
Totally
Well, I've firmly planted my foot in my mouth there.
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#20
IceShroom
eidairaman1 said:
TR 1950, TR+ 2950, TR2 3950, TR2+(Tentative) 4950 etc...
Don't confuse with arcitecture code name with Product brand name. Zen+ is a architecture name. 3rd Gen Ryzen could have Zen+ based processor.
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#21
DeathtoGnomes
IceShroom said:
People are realy thinking away much. TR 2nd gen will have 16 and 12 core too. Those will not pull that much power.And 32 TR at stock will not pull more than 230-280A which all existant X399 board can support.
The power draw is not the issue, its the heat and the risk of melting the motherboard on air or plain-jayne (bare minimum/budget) watercooling . If clocks remain at stock, you will need a board that can sustain the heat of 250 watts without melting the board or frying other circuits enroute, more beef is needed there.
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