wait... gddr2 on the rv610?

Zubasa65nm should bring the R600 to consume much less power than the Aircraft Carrier.

didnt it say the r600 was gonna be on 80nm? and the rest where on 65nm

ATI is looking good. that 2x256MB screams dual core gpu to me.

WarEagleAUATI is looking good. that 2x256MB screams dual core gpu to me.

maybe, but if it would be so, R600 series will surely be the best DX9 gpus in the world.
But, who's gonna make the drivers ? Nvidia's crappy drivers messed up its reputation a lot, hope ati makes some better driver ;)

WarEagleAUATI is looking good. that 2x256MB screams dual core gpu to me.

hate to break it to you, but dual core GPUs are nothing new... ever hear of a "pipeline" or a "quad"? :p

2x256MB screams to me... i dunno, turbocache/hypermemory?

XooMhate to break it to you, but dual core GPUs are nothing new... ever hear of a "pipeline" or a "quad"? :p

2x256MB screams to me... i dunno, turbocache/hypermemory?

Hmmm 256 onboard, 256 system. I can see that being a possibility.

MusselsHmmm 256 onboard, 256 system. I can see that being a possibility.

that would piss me off to no end...
i thought turbocache/hypermemroy was pretty much over with...

I don't think we will ever see the end of turbocache/hypermemory.

However, I doubt their mid-range cards would use it, which is what the 2x256MB was listed for. So I am a little confused.

So if the R630 is a "mid level" Dx10 card, then whats the high end?

Remember...*rumours* :p

Could have been a typo :p?

KeikiSo if the R630 is a "mid level" Dx10 card, then whats the high end?

The R600? *hands you some wake up juice*

and the 2x256 i meant is interesting as an option, if 256 isnt enouogh it goes to system ram, if its forced on that would be gay.

*shrugs*

Turbocache/hypermemory are a waste IMO, especially when you are seeing 512mb 6200's :p

512MB 6200's are a waste... at least turbocache cards have a use as onboard.

na im saying 256mb + 256mb turbocache on a 6200...stoopid :p

maybe dual channel? 2x256mb running dual sounds cool

What I want to know is, why only 64 shaders on the R600? I mean the 8800GTX has 128. Or are they saying that their design is so much more efficient that it can make up the 64 shader deficit? Sounds fishy to me.

Wile EWhat I want to know is, why only 64 shaders on the R600? I mean the 8800GTX has 128. Or are they saying that their design is so much more efficient that it can make up the 64 shader deficit? Sounds fishy to me.

ya, this was twitching me too. 8800gtx then would theorotically win the 1st gen dx10 battle ??

lol, 64 vs 128 shaders...thats a big difference. How many pipes do these cards have?

exact details still remain unknown.......

hey, isn't the 8600 ul. also have 64 shader ? THAT WOULD MEAN R600 = 8600Ul.
i.e 8800GTX pwnz R600 ???

BXtremehey, isn't the 8600 ul. also have 64 shader ? THAT WOULD MEAN R600 = 8600Ul.
i.e 8800GTX pwnz R600 ???

We all should know by now that ati and nv works different. For example Nvidia went for more pixel pipelines while ati went for more shaders in the age of DX9 cards.
Anyways last I heard Ati's Shaders or ROPS or whatever they are calling them now are working at double the rate compared to Nv's.

Im thinking the two cards will be close in performance but the R600 comming on top of course since it was released later. Id kinda saw wtf in any of them released a high end card that didnt beat the other that was released earlier.

yup, we're throwing stones in the water blindly, but atleast we can guess/ or imagine ;)

i think that wil be a gddr5 beacuse a firm caled "Qimonda" is bilding gddr5..:)

2x256 bit mem controllers maybe???

C.AshWhy would the corporate/home market want DX10 cards?

um for windows vista duh :slap: