AsRockNow that's some thing interesting, how ever the Titan RTX is more of a sucker kinda thing as their is nothing it can be really used for.

Well i guess as long as your happy fck it right ??, sucker born everyday they say, no offense intended.

We all have our weakness \ poison.

Wut? I was unaware that the RTX Titan cannot be plugged into a mb and used? Did I miss something in the article?

It's highway robbery is what is.

Ah AMD... This card wouldve been for 600$ at max. if AMD hadnt buy ATI ...

FluffmeisterSure, it launched after, thanks a lot for setting a high price AMD!

Sorry?
www.anandtech.com/show/5805/nvidia-geforce-gtx-690-review-ultra-expensive-ultra-rare-ultra-fast

Expensive dual gpu cards are nothing new. It doesn't even matter who's fault it is, its just the sad state of GPU at the moment where the new performance level costs way too much. And everyone buying into it, is helping to make it legitimate. With dual GPU, you could say its a true enthusiast product and a bit of an odd one at that. With the 2080ti, its integrated in the product stack in a very prominent way. Its not the same thing and it would be good to recognize that because as @Vya Domus pointed out earlier, this will affect everyone. Titan OTOH, is quite a non issue. Its clear this is the halo card that exists only for the purpose of being one, being marginally faster than the x80ti. Its the card you can easily ignore altogether, it doesn't define the performance level of a generation, only its absolute max.

AMD isn't a player in this and they won't be for a long time, Turing was and is your chance to give Nvidia the middle finger on these price points. After that, its the new norm for a good while. You can expect a new baby step for the Turing refresh, with 3080ti doing 12 instead of 10 gigarays at 1200 bucks. Oh joy! Can't wait. Maybe you'll have a glorious 72 FPS in BFV @ 1080p.

About criticizing those who do buy it. Yes, its the same criticism as those who shit on others because they pre order games. Look at how that improved gaming for them and the rest who didn't pre order. Its not rocket science and this kind of influencing should happen, its natural. Word of mouth can go both ways and if you can't handle that, maybe you need to crawl back under that rock with your shiny GPU.

R-T-BAs I told people when they critisized me for going after some used Titans:

"I like big complete cards, I cannot lie"

I ain't rich. But I enjoy my money thoroughly...

And that is just fine, right? Everyone should buy whatever they like, and the only reason to get your panties in a bunch about people who say something negative of it, is because the purchase didn't sit well with you in the first place and your cognitive dissonance is fighting reality. I can detect a few of those in this very topic and it ain't you ;)

For the consumer he sure as hell does. For the company? Hell no.

Precisely. Its weird to see some people say what they say. As if they like to burn money and raise the game to make it a niche that will die in the end because everything is priced out of the market.

I will say this: if you want to support a future of RTRT, spending big on Turing's top end is the last thing that will help it.

I'll say this once.

I am all for people who will buy what they want so long as they have the disposable income and not complain about not having money to buy: Food, Medicine, Education for kids, etc but end up buying toys like this. But if you got the money, you got the need, why not? All the power to you. But I am no fan of the current price schemes only because I have a feeling that Nvidia is fishing the market to see if people will pay that kind of money. To me, it is like the real estate here; bunch of people paying $400,000 for a half decent home, so all homes will cost that money now. It is basically what happened here for that market. I feel Nvidia is trying the same thing "well, they payed $1,200 for a 2080 before. They will definitely pay (theoretically) $1300 or $1400 for a 3080"

I have been enjoying diabl 3 on nintendo Switch like i never did or could on the Computer, where the game runs flawlesly in the highest Resolution with all efects on. Simply because the Switch is the better device in Terms of gmaing, and you can take it everywhere with you. Did i mention i payed 200 euros for it, used from ebay ? A Titan RTX is a pure waste of Money. And it doesnt help you game while you take a shit. All it does, is ist draining your bank account.
Personally im waiting to have the Titan RTX gpu Performance in some next Iteration of nintendo Switch for 200 euros, used. That is the best bang for the Money.
Oh, and i have a 32 core CPU, and 2 Radeon vega frontier Edition watercooled, inside my Desktop pc. I barely Play any more games on the big Screen, since im to busy with the PS4 and the Switch, as it seems. Now and then, a bit of destiny 2, but that is it.

It seems the consoles are indeed the true gaming devices. PC is just a Money sink.
Think of it this way, my friend wanted to spend 1300 euros on a gmaing Laptop with a Geforce 1070, so that he may Play witcher 3, i told, him, you are better of getting a ps4 pro for 300 euros. He said ok, can you borrow me yourse, to see if i can Play the game on the console ? (he was a full tilt pc mouse and Keyboard Player all his life).
He was blown away by how easy it is to Play with Joystick, and how good the game Looks and mov, and everything on a 300 euro Hardware. He gave up in the end, since he realized he had no time in his life to Play the game. You know what happened in the end ? He ended up getting a nintendo Switch.

So Computers for playing games, are becoming less and less relevant. Ist how i feel at least...

Hope the milked ones get another 30% performance jump for that possible 1800-2000$ price.

Sad state of affairs, hopefully Intel can save us.

FluffmeisterSad state of affairs, hopefully Intel can save us.

To think we would look towards Intel to save our GPU landscape... its a clear sign we are desperate :D And the kicker is, we got stuck with Raja anyway.

BytalesI have been enjoying diabl 3 on nintendo Switch like i never did or could on the Computer, where the game runs flawlesly in the highest Resolution with all efects on. Simply because the Switch is the better device in Terms of gmaing, and you can take it everywhere with you. Did i mention i payed 200 euros for it, used from ebay ? A Titan RTX is a pure waste of Money. And it doesnt help you game while you take a shit. All it does, is ist draining your bank account.
Personally im waiting to have the Titan RTX gpu Performance in some next Iteration of nintendo Switch for 200 euros, used. That is the best bang for the Money.
Oh, and i have a 32 core CPU, and 2 Radeon vega frontier Edition watercooled, inside my Desktop pc. I barely Play any more games on the big Screen, since im to busy with the PS4 and the Switch, as it seems. Now and then, a bit of destiny 2, but that is it.

It seems the consoles are indeed the true gaming devices. PC is just a Money sink.
Think of it this way, my friend wanted to spend 1300 euros on a gmaing Laptop with a Geforce 1070, so that he may Play witcher 3, i told, him, you are better of getting a ps4 pro for 300 euros. He said ok, can you borrow me yourse, to see if i can Play the game on the console ? (he was a full tilt pc mouse and Keyboard Player all his life).
He was blown away by how easy it is to Play with Joystick, and how good the game Looks and mov, and everything on a 300 euro Hardware. He gave up in the end, since he realized he had no time in his life to Play the game. You know what happened in the end ? He ended up getting a nintendo Switch.

So Computers for playing games, are becoming less and less relevant. Ist how i feel at least...

in a computer you can reach a significantly higher level of graphics, you have the ability to adjust the game to your hardware, you can control any aspect of the game from console commands (not only graphic aspect), you can add mods to the game (mods that change gameplay, mods that change graphics and mods that change shading with ReShade). also on a console you can't change your hardware, on a computer you are limited only by your imagination and... unfortunately your $$$.

on a computer you decide what your game will be like
on a console they decide what your game will be like
which do you prefer ?

Seems strange that a TITAN RTX would feature 72 RT cores instead of 78 like 2080Ti FE does...

naxeemSeems strange that a TITAN RTX would feature 72 RT cores instead of 78 like 2080Ti FE does...

Double check those specs. 2080 Ti has 68 RT cores since it's a cut-down TU102, and the only cut down TU102 card on the market right now. All other cards have the full thing with the full 72 RT cores.

This market is a Sunday ride to Nvidia!

At least AMD is still able to compete in the mid-range, otherwise any day playing on PC would be a luxury.

FouquinDouble check those specs. 2080 Ti has 68 RT cores since it's a cut-down TU102, and the only cut down TU102 card on the market right now. All other cards have the full thing with the full 72 RT cores.

Interesting. Was under impression NV calls RT cores "RTX-OPS" since it's an awfully close number from here:
www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/graphics-cards/rtx-2080-ti/

I guess that's some next level marketing... :)

purely my opinion here but the 2080ti seems to be not a fully functional chip for practical reasons.. it enables a much better yield for not much of a performance loss..

the titan version is just a binned fully functional chip probably pretty rare and the price will reflected this..

the fastest graphics card on the planet has just got a bit faster.. for those that dont mind the additional price premium that is.. he he..

trog

trog100purely my opinion here but the 2080ti seems to be not a fully functional chip for practical reasons.. it enables a much better yield for not much of a performance loss..

the titan version is just a binned fully functional chip probably pretty rare and the price will reflected this..

the fastest graphics card on the planet has just got a bit faster.. for those that dont mind the additional price premium that is.. he he..

trog

2080ti was never the fastest card, because it was a cut down chip. It was clear as day something faster would follow, because where else are those dies going to?

moproblems99Wut? I was unaware that the RTX Titan cannot be plugged into a mb and used? Did I miss something in the article?

Like to know how you got that from my post ? ( then again no i don't), although i should not of used the word sucker, more like nVidia are trying to make up the money the current tech has cost them regardless.

RTX is a fail or at least under developed at this time.

Anyways not as any of it matter's he knows what he's getting in to and enjoys it. that's all matter's in the end.

WavetrexTitan 2018: $2000

Excuse me, I thought Jensen still has a heart in that jacket.

$2500 sounds much better for investors, right?

Vayra862080ti was never the fastest card, because it was a cut down chip. It was clear as day something faster would follow, because where else are those dies going to?

it was the fasted prior to the arrival of the titan.. people have to realize.. these flag ship products are not to make money via sales.. they are to make money via prestige.. they are attention getters and this thread kind of proves that.. he he

the 2080ti isnt a deliberately cut down chip.. its just the best they could do allowing for the difficulty of getting a sellable amount of perfect chips..

trog

AsRockNow that's some thing interesting, how ever the Titan RTX is more of a sucker kinda thing as their is nothing it can be really used for.

AsRockLike to know how you got that from my post ?

See the last 12 words from your first quote.

Edit: Things it can do:

1. Game
2. Crunch Numbers
3. AI with those lovely tensor cores
4. Power any display connected to it
5. Power multiple displays connected to it

There are 5 things it can do and I didn't have to think hard.

moproblems99Imagine that, they are considerable more complicated with a lot more moving parts. Not to mention, they have a longer time to be usable. As of this point, forever. GPUs are effectively useful for about 3 years.

So...are you backing up my point that comparing very expensive cars to video cards is a stupid notion, or are you just replying in disagreement to what I stated w/o realizing what you wrote agrees with me?

AsRockNow that's some thing interesting, how ever the Titan RTX is more of a sucker kinda thing as their is nothing it can be really used for.

weight wut?

That thing is cheaper than the Titan V with the only shortcoming being the DP capabilities. Otherwise its faster and cheaper. If you buy it primarily for gaming, you have more money than me to burn... but good on you for being able to do that in the first place. That said, if you purchase it for data science and most compute abilities (again minus the DP abilities that the Quadros enable) as a primary function, its a good crossover card before Quadro.

AsRockRTX is a fail or at least under developed at this time.

What a difference a day makes......

www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/dice-prepares-battlefield-v-rtx-dxr-performance-patch-up-to-50-fps-gains.250201/

... I mean sure, that is one title. But that is at least encouraging to see such a performance difference without much IQ loss.

EarthDogwithout much IQ loss

I mean IQ is in the eye of the beholder. It looked terrible to begin with so losing any isn't good but at least the performance might be better.

TotallySo...are you backing up my point that comparing very expensive cars to video cards is a stupid notion, or are you just replying in disagreement to what I stated w/o realizing what you wrote agrees with

It depends, expecting a GPU to hold value like a Bentley is asinine. Complaining about luxury items prices is also asinine. Were you stating either one of those?

Well, whatever quality one says it is, it doesn't lose much at all from that. You can see from the stills we pulled out of that thread, with the 2080 on medium, there was definately a difference in the gun (but not with 2070/med nor 2080 Ti Ultra). But this is what the variable rate RT is supposed to do as well.

FluffmeisterNo issue with that at all, my point is you can buy a RTX 2080 Ti for less than the price of a 295X2, bringing up a Titan Z is completely missing the point.

I understand, but my point was why it was priced like that. Either way it was a pointless price since 2 R9 290X's were cheaper and better hence why I bought three of them for roughly the same price.

FluffmeisterI honestly don't blame you, single GPU all day long, but an extra card never hurts.

The distain for the Titan brand in this thread isn't a surprise, but as you point out moving away from a poor multi-GPU solution or simply not wanting to wait years for something better is the market they fill, and they fill it well.

Well I bought my card because I didn't want to wait, my only regret was not buying the water block and water cooling it. At this point I've given up the argument over the Titan name branding. I still think it confuses the lineup a bit just like AMD's Vega naming as they are both mostly using cool names to sound...well cool. Plus at this point its established enough people should know what it is (Albeit I think Titan V kinda threw that off a little again as it was more professional vs gaming but I think because of the price no one was buying that card strictly for gaming except those who buy a Lamborghini as a grocery getter).

Meh, I will judge this card when everything is announced.