Wednesday, March 6th 2019

Definitive List of 9th Gen Intel Desktop Client-Segment Processors Outed

Japanese PC maker Fujitsu put out a definitive list of all 9th generation Core/Pentium/Celeron desktop processors as part of its updated desktop motherboard BIOS update document, expanding on the models Intel currently has out. Intel had, in January, stated that it will add several new 9th generation Core desktop processor models in Q1 2019, beginning with the Core i5-9400 and i5-9400F 6-core/6-thread processor, along with "KF" variants of the i5-9600K, i7-9700K, and i9-9900K, which lack integrated graphics. Later this month, the lineup could be expanded with new 9th generation Core i3 series, which includes the i3-9100 and i3-9300 4-core/4-thread processors, overclocker-friendly i3-9350K, and additions to the Core i5 lineup, including the i5-9500 and the i5-9600 (non-K).

Here's where it gets interesting. Apparently, the iGPU-devoid "F" extension is being applied to nearly all 9th gen Core SKUs, and not just the ones already launch. So, you can expect an i5-9500F, i5-9600F (besides the already launched i5-9600KF), i3-9100F, and i3-9350KF. Apparently Intel is harvesting dies with defective iGPUs to target DIY PC gamers who are bound to use discrete graphics cards. The 2-core/4-thread Pentium G5600 is also getting "F-ed," with the G5600F.
The other interesting new extension is "T," which has been around in Intel's product stacks for close to a decade. It denotes lower TDP coming from aggressive on-chip power-management and lower clock speeds. There will be "T" variants of most SKUs, including the i9-9900T, i7-9700T, i5-9500T, i5-9400T, i3-9100T, Pentium G5600T, G5420T, and Celeron G4930T. The TDP of all T variants is a flat 35 Watts, regardless of model. Xeon E-series models based on the "Coffee Lake Refresh" silicon include the Xeon E-2288G, E-2278G 8-core processors, alongside 6-core and 4-core models that will be launched later in Q2 or Q3. Source: FanlessTech
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16 Comments on Definitive List of 9th Gen Intel Desktop Client-Segment Processors Outed

#1
Vayra86
OK you scored points here :D

The 2-core/4-thread Pentium G5600 is also getting "F-ed,"

Well played. It also just struck me that the other half of Intel's line up says T, as if they're giving you the finger... :P
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#3
ArbitraryAffection
TheLostSwede said:
The KFC model(s) are missing...
They come free with the family sharing bucket meal

Huh if 9900T wasn't super overpriced I would actually be very interested in that for crunching. When optimised for efficiency (9900K is not), Intel is good perf/watt, a bit better than Ryzen I think. a 35W Coffee Lake 8/16 (if it sticks to the 35W) would be around 2.5-3 ghz all core I think. somewhere around there and maybe offer performance not dissimilar from the 1700 at 65W, but probably a bit less. The problem is the initial investment , i expect it to cost 2x as much, with 1700's selling for £150 new here... . Maybe it would pay off in the long run in electric bills, meh. Course it depends on what the CPU is doing, IDK how well Zen handles WCG tasks compared to Skylake~

One thing I really want from Ryzen 3000 on 7nm is something like the 9900T. or AMD go one step ahead and give me a 65W 12/24. 7nm should let it happen. 3700E :)

And then right as i was typing this i searched and discovered this actually exists , where can I actually buy it though. :s
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#4
jabbadap
TheLostSwede said:
The KFC model(s) are missing...
Was they ever come out with that name or just KF? F versions are mentioned on the footnote: supported but not approved by Fujitsu.
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#5
Flaky
When locked i9-9900 hits shelves, sales of 9900k will drop significantly - it will have allcore turbo frequency somewhere in 4.4-4.6 GHz range. Just enough for everyone, except those who just have to break 5GHz psychological barrier :p
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#6
king of swag187
ArbitraryAffection said:
They come free with the family sharing bucket meal

Huh if 9900T wasn't super overpriced I would actually be very interested in that for crunching. When optimised for efficiency (9900K is not), Intel is good perf/watt, a bit better than Ryzen I think. a 35W Coffee Lake 8/16 (if it sticks to the 35W) would be around 2.5-3 ghz all core I think. somewhere around there and maybe offer performance not dissimilar from the 1700 at 65W, but probably a bit less. The problem is the initial investment , i expect it to cost 2x as much, with 1700's selling for £150 new here... . Maybe it would pay off in the long run in electric bills, meh. Course it depends on what the CPU is doing, IDK how well Zen handles WCG tasks compared to Skylake~

One thing I really want from Ryzen 3000 on 7nm is something like the 9900T. or AMD go one step ahead and give me a 65W 12/24. 7nm should let it happen. 3700E :)

And then right as i was typing this i searched and discovered this actually exists , where can I actually buy it though. :s
The ES 9900 (T) are $200 and $250 off taobao iirc, but I think theyre sold out
Ryzen E series parts are OEM only iirc (like the 999999990XE)
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#7
bug
I'll be honest, I've been with intel since the excellent 2500k. But man, looking at them releasing chips for the past years is like watching the paint dry.
They beefed up the IGP and improved power management, but for the life of me I couldn't tell you the differences between IGPs or various SpeedStep revisions.
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#8
Super XP
I think the new Ryzen CPUs coming this summer is the CPUs to watch out for. Not worth upgrading till we see how they perform.
And going by the rumours and snippets of AMD its looking mighty great.
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#9
Metroid
"Apparently Intel is harvesting dies with defective iGPUs to target DIY PC gamers who are bound to use discrete graphics cards. "

Funny and with the same price point, that is intel greedy at best, intel should give a 20% discount at least but no, no discount, nothing, greedy level 100 hehe

I will skip this as a whole and wait for AMD ryzen 3xxx series, this nonsense from intel must stop and the only way to stop is do not buy, boycott it.
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#10
hat
Enthusiast
Metroid said:
"Apparently Intel is harvesting dies with defective iGPUs to target DIY PC gamers who are bound to use discrete graphics cards. "

Funny and with the same price point, that is intel greedy at best, intel should give a 20% discount at least but no, no discount, nothing, greedy level 100 hehe

I will skip this as a whole and wait for AMD ryzen 3xxx series, this nonsense from intel must stop and the only way to stop is do not buy, boycott it.
I made the same argument. These "harvested" chips with bad IGPs should be sold with at least some sort of discount under their fully functional counterparts...
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#11
bug
Super XP said:
I think the new Ryzen CPUs coming this summer is the CPUs to watch out for. Not worth upgrading till we see how they perform.
And going by the rumours and snippets of AMD its looking mighty great.
I don't think these are coming till Fall. The most recent slide I have see said Epyc2 Q2, Ryzen3 Q3. And if you can wait till then, you might as well wait for Ice Lake before making a decision.
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#12
Manu_PT
Flaky said:
When locked i9-9900 hits shelves, sales of 9900k will drop significantly - it will have allcore turbo frequency somewhere in 4.4-4.6 GHz range. Just enough for everyone, except those who just have to break 5GHz psychological barrier :p
They will be useless, because you will still need a good vrm motherboard to avoid throttling and only the z390 can sustain it. Once you go z390, getting a non k cpu is pointless.
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#13
Flaky
Manu_PT said:
They will be useless, because you will still need a good vrm motherboard to avoid throttling and only the z390 can sustain it. Once you go z390, getting a non k cpu is pointless.
Yeah, because saving about a hundred bucks is pointless... :rolleyes:

I see quite a lot people taking locked cpus and going Z just so they can clock their memory higher than 2666MHz.
And whether you need beefy motherboard or not depends on workload. For gaming - not really.
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#14
Manu_PT
Flaky said:
Yeah, because saving about a hundred bucks is pointless... :rolleyes:

I see quite a lot people taking locked cpus and going Z just so they can clock their memory higher than 2666MHz.
And whether you need beefy motherboard or not depends on workload. For gaming - not really.
If you know people that go Z platform just to clock memory higher than 2666mhz they are doing it wrong or completly clueless people. If you are willing to buy a 3000mhz/3200mhz memory kit to pair with your non-K CPU, you better off use it at 2666mhz and just play with the timings. For example, 3200mhz CL16 can do 2666mhz CL12/CL13 easily, and it is as fast with those latencies, while you can still do it on a B360 motherboard.

Also, again, if you are getting a 9900 cpu for gaming, you are doing it wrong aswell.
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#15
jabbadap
Manu_PT said:
If you know people that go Z platform just to clock memory higher than 2666mhz they are doing it wrong or completly clueless people. If you are willing to buy a 3000mhz/3200mhz memory kit to pair with your non-K CPU, you better off use it at 2666mhz and just play with the timings. For example, 3200mhz CL16 can do 2666mhz CL12/CL13 easily, and it is as fast with those latencies, while you can still do it on a B360 motherboard.

Also, again, if you are getting a 9900 cpu for gaming, you are doing it wrong aswell.
Why not, locked processors can run games just fine. Heck I would even buy Xeons, if intel would still allow them on consumer motherboards(IGPUless 4c/8t xeons at the price of 4c i5ks, those were the times...). Sure i9 9900 is bad buy if the price difference with un-locked version is next to nothing.

Pairing locked processor with Z-board gives some easy tweakings available too(TDP, mem and even little blck OC). And they usually are with better I/O and other features too not to forgetting path for "cpu upgrade"(Yeah I know that is limited on Intel side).
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#16
BorgOvermind
So we get some without the junk graphics too. Good, we should be able to push them more for better performance.
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