Tuesday, April 9th 2019
AMD Outsells Intel 2:1 on European Retailer Mindfactory.de
European PC enthusiasts continue to see value in choosing AMD Ryzen processors over Intel Core, as the latest public data by German retailer Mindfactory.de, which ships across the EU, shows AMD processors outselling Intel 2:1. Although earlier Intel would have the upperhand in revenue despite lower volumes, this time around, AMD shored up revenues on the backs of high-margin products such as the Ryzen 7 2700X and the HEDT Ryzen Threadripper series.
The 6-core/12-thread Ryzen 5 2600 is the most popular processor offering high value under the 200€-mark. It is followed by the 8-core/16-thread Ryzen 7 2700X. Buyers prefer the 2700X to the cheaper 2700 non-X. The Ryzen 5 2600X is another strong seller. Over in the Intel camp, the Core i9-9900K and Core i7-9700K are strong sellers, followed by the i5-9600K and the newly released i5-9400F. Pricing graphs show Intel processor pricing steadily rise over 2018, while AMD chips remained largely flat. These numbers are not indicative of the overall market, since Mindfactory caters to DIY PC gamers and enthusiasts only.
Source:
ExtremeTech
The 6-core/12-thread Ryzen 5 2600 is the most popular processor offering high value under the 200€-mark. It is followed by the 8-core/16-thread Ryzen 7 2700X. Buyers prefer the 2700X to the cheaper 2700 non-X. The Ryzen 5 2600X is another strong seller. Over in the Intel camp, the Core i9-9900K and Core i7-9700K are strong sellers, followed by the i5-9600K and the newly released i5-9400F. Pricing graphs show Intel processor pricing steadily rise over 2018, while AMD chips remained largely flat. These numbers are not indicative of the overall market, since Mindfactory caters to DIY PC gamers and enthusiasts only.
105 Comments on AMD Outsells Intel 2:1 on European Retailer Mindfactory.de
arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/12/intel-unveils-a-new-architecture-for-2019-sunny-cove/
I wonder what tricks AMD has up its sleeve after its Q2 2019 CPU's come out...
Intel is a bit overpriced and AMD is a bit underpriced. :D
Sunny Cove will be lucky to even mostly catch up to Zen 2, let alone Zen 3.Correct. AMD is not sitting still, this is what Intel is going to have to catch up with:
- 2019 - Zen 2 more than doubles performance/efficiency over Zen 1.
- 2020 - Zen 2+ with chiplets on 7nm+ or EUV, and enhanced (possible die-shrunk) I/O die for another 10% performance boost and lower power consumption.
- 2021 - Zen 3 on either 7nmEUV or 5nm for 15% higher performance and doubled efficiency. Possibility of 3D-stacking chiplets.
- 2022 - Zen 3+
- 2023 - Zen 4 3D-stacked 5nm+ or possibly even 3/4nm chiplets
Intel has a lot of work to do after only increasing performance 5-10% per year....I mean... what's the point?
Also, funny how there are people on this forum who think that users of a large, global gaming platform are a poor statistical representation of all gamers, but clients of a single store in Germany represent the whole market. A-M-A-Z-I-N-G
Furthermore it's well known that many Chinese/SK gaming cafe's use piles of GTX 1060's, and every different user that logs in is counted as a different person taking the Steam Survey. Thus if you have 10 different people who use one cafe's gaming dekstop, it's counted as 10 different 1060's (Even though it is one). The steam survey is incredibly flawed and near useless at this point for that reason.
AMD Pushing Intel with More cores and better performance is good for everyone (except intel), i Really hope (as a consumer) that Someday AMD passes intel and they have to lower their prices, Same thing with GPU's but that is really Unlikely (and sad for us, the consumers).
Worldwide Market Share:
Q3 2017 - 22.3%
Q1 2018 - 20.2 %
Q3 2018 - 20.9%
Q1 2019 - 23.1%
Q2 2009 - 23.0% (so far)
But I wonder much more why folks focus on Hz and cores, only thing we look at is application performance. Shortest time to completion (or most fps in gaming) wins.
Personally, though I think its a perfect storm atm... prices for AMD are down and RAM prices are down almost 25% in the last 6 months. Shoot, I have seen Micron DDR4 2666 8GB for $29.99 now. Its getting down there. Now we are just in that lull from people who are waiting to see what Zen 3 has to offer.
That being said, you get flaws nearly everywhere in any digitally administered survey. The question is how bad...
It be like standing outside of Mindfactory.de (If its a physical store) and surveying shoppers on their CPU purchase. Some are just going to walk right pass you ignoring you. People being shipped to will be over looked. A small minority at best will talk to you, even smaller will participate. With the majority of those who participate spending their time playing Dota 2, CS:GO & PUBG.
I'm in brazil so what is expensive in dollars becomes 4x that price over here, so i'll stay on the Value side of things.
When ZEN was launched, Intel didn't expect a increase of more than 50% IPC increase over AMD Excavator. That speed and efficiency boost caught Intel by surprise.
Then AMD launched Threadripper and Intel was slapped once more.
Intel is incapable of beating Ryzen's price / performance ATM. ZEN+ brought some respectful gains over ZEN. ZEN isn't without its minor latency issues. AMD apparently resolved them in ZEN 2. A complete redesign. Hopefully it works out well and we get the desired +20% boost in performance clock4clock. :D