Monday, July 29th 2019

AMD Ryzen 5 3500 a 6-core Processor

AMD is giving final touches to a second wave of 3rd generation Ryzen processor family, which includes the new Ryzen 5 3500 processor, and "Pro" variants of various already-launched SKUs, such as the 3600X, 3700X, and 3900X. These chips were spotted in an import registry of the Eurasian Economic Union. The most interesting bit from this disclosure is the fact that the Ryzen 5 3500 is a 6-core processor with 65 W TDP. For the previous two generations of Ryzen processors, AMD configured its x500 series SKUs, such as the 2500X and 1500X, as 4-core/8-thread processors. It's likely that the 3500 will be a slightly lower-clocked sibling of the Ryzen 5 3600, priced lower, to compete with Intel chips such as the Core i5-9400 or i5-9500. This also raises the possibility of Ryzen 3 "Matisse" processors being 4-core/8-thread chips.
Source: Guru3D
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18 Comments on AMD Ryzen 5 3500 a 6-core Processor

#1
HwGeek
I have posted this in Guru3d
more models coming and looks like there will be cheaper 3950 model
AMD used the 3950 non x for the OCing WR's while the top binned 3950X is 100-000000051
This looks interesting since we now know that 3900X is limited in OCing because of the 1 "bad" chiplet that cannot go above ~4.3~4.4 and this is exactly the max OC shown on the 100-000000033.
and we also know that the 2nd better chiplet in 3900X can OC to 4.6~4.7Ghz, so if the binned 3950X can be OCed ~4.5~4.6Ghz all core that will be nice!
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#2
Manu_PT
Well if the performance is within 3% of the 3600, just like the 3600x, and price 160€, we have a new best seller. At the same time would feel bad for who paid 230€ for the 3600.

A 3900 for 400€ would be a hit too, but that would canibalize the 3700x/3800x (wich arent interesting chips imo)
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#4
wiak
mattise is probably ryzen 4000 series, as there is already a 3400G out thats basically a overlocked 2400G
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#5
NRANM
And here I am, waiting for a non-X 3700, as I can really use the threads, but do not need the clock frequency.
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#6
medi01
Manu_PT, post: 4088618, member: 168799"
would feel bad for who paid 230€ for the 3600.
3600 is 208 Euros.
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#7
cucker tarlson
medi01, post: 4088691, member: 158537"
3600 is 208 Euros.
210-230,depending on the country and shop.

NRANM, post: 4088676, member: 170117"
And here I am, waiting for a non-X 3700, as I can really use the threads, but do not need the clock frequency.
tbh 3600+better cooler performs dead equal with 3600x on stock cooling while the acoustics are better.
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#8
lynx29
cucker tarlson, post: 4088622, member: 173472"
would like a 3700 non-x too
yes, 100-200 mhz lower and $280 launch price. I'd do that. :D
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#9
NRANM
cucker tarlson, post: 4088698, member: 173472"
tbh 3600+better cooler performs dead equal with 3600x on stock cooling while the acoustics are better.
I would assume the 3600 would need to be overclocked. Not that it matters to me, as I have no plans to overclock.
For my needs (1080p@60FPS gaming and a lot of x264 encoding) the 3600 seems like the best choice currently, but if the 3500 is real, and depending on its price/performance ratio, it may become my future CPU.
The 3700X doesn't offer enough performance boost for me to justify its price increase, but a non-X 3700 just might be good enough for me to aim for it instead. Alas, no such CPU for the time being, and possible not for the future either.
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#10
ppn
3500 will compete against I7-8700. Intel better lower the price or release the 6(12) i5-10500 comet lake already. I can settle for 20% overpricing but not 200%.
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#11
cucker tarlson
NRANM, post: 4088767, member: 170117"
I would assume the 3600 would need to be overclocked. Not that it matters to me, as I have no plans to overclock.
For my needs (1080p@60FPS gaming and a lot of x264 encoding) the 3600 seems like the best choice currently, but if the 3500 is real, and depending on its price/performance ratio, it may become my future CPU.
The 3700X doesn't offer enough performance boost for me to justify its price increase, but a non-X 3700 just might be good enough for me to aim for it instead. Alas, no such CPU for the time being, and possible not for the future either.
for encoding it's quite a lot faster

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#12
Tomorrow
Manu_PT, post: 4088618, member: 168799"
Well if the performance is within 3% of the 3600, just like the 3600x, and price 160€, we have a new best seller. At the same time would feel bad for who paid 230€ for the 3600.

A 3900 for 400€ would be a hit too, but that would canibalize the 3700x/3800x (wich arent interesting chips imo)
I think it's more likely the prices of these new SKU's will be following:

3900: $449
3700: $299
3500: $149

That would allow them to slot perfectly between existing SKU's
II can't speculate on 3950 (non-X) pricing tho if such SKU exists. The price gap between 3900X and 3950X is pretty wide. Tho i would be suprised to see that under 699€.
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#13
cucker tarlson
Tomorrow, post: 4088800, member: 136792"
I think it's more likely the prices of these new SKU's will be following:

3900: 449€
3700: 299€
3500: 149€

That would allow them to slot perfectly between existing SKU's
II can't speculate on 3950 (non-X) pricing tho if such SKU exists. The price gap between 3900X and 3950X is pretty wide. Tho i would be suprised to see that under 699€.
the news skus are ryzen pro not regular ryzen,the only one non-pro is 3500
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#15
NRANM
cucker tarlson, post: 4088794, member: 173472"
for encoding it's quite a lot faster
If you are referring to the 3700X, it is indeed faster than the 3600, but the price here is ~67% higher (450 vs 750 BGN). I'm having a difficult time justifying it. Which is why a non-X 3700 sounds great to me. :)
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#16
Dyatlov A
Got damn, yesterday i purchased the 200usd Ryzen 5 3600, And i asked guys in a forum, if any cheaper expected. However I have wanted to buy a four core / 8 thread version, which still not exist.
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#18
cucker tarlson
NRANM, post: 4088822, member: 170117"
If you are referring to the 3700X, it is indeed faster than the 3600, but the price here is ~67% higher (450 vs 750 BGN). I'm having a difficult time justifying it. Which is why a non-X 3700 sounds great to me. :)
even worse here,78%
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