Monday, September 23rd 2019

AMD Radeon RX 5500 Gets Benchmarked

AMD is preparing lower-end variants of its NAVI GPUs based on new RDNA graphics card architecture, which will replace all the existing cards based on aging GCN architecture. Today, AMD's upcoming Radeon RX 5500, as it is called, got benchmarked in GFXBench - a cross-platform benchmark which features various kinds of test for Windows, MacOS, iOS and Android.

The benchmark was run on Windows OS using OpenGL API. It only ran the "Manhattan" high-level test, which yielded a result of 5430 frames in total or about 87.6 frames per second. When compared to something like RX 5700 XT, which scored 8905 frames in total and 143.6 FPS, RX 5500 clearly seems positioned at the lower end of NAVI GPU stack. Despite the lack of details, we can expect this card to compete against NVIDIA's GeForce GTX 1660/1660 Ti GPUs where AMD has no competing offer so far.
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27 Comments on AMD Radeon RX 5500 Gets Benchmarked

#1
Athlonite
this would appear to not even beat an RX580

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#2
Darmok N Jalad
Athlonite
this would appear to not even beat an RX580


It probably wouldn’t, but it would hopefully consume far less energy too. Being GFXbench, I wonder if this is a GPU in a refreshed Mac?
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#3
JAB Creations
Athlonite
this would appear to not even beat an RX580
Considering that the 5600 series will be between the 5500 and 5700 series cards it doesn't surprise me. Plus this isn't an official release, it's a leaked benchmark and only a partial benchmark with who-knows what bias for what kinds of technical aspects.

I am curious how RDNA 1.0 versus 2.0 will work with the 5000 series considering they really seem to want to cash in on nostalgia (a relative guess). Perhaps the 5800+ cards will all be RDNA 2? Looks like we'll have to wait a bit longer. The nice thing is that since AMD has the CPU side of things under control and it's increasing their revenue that they'll be able to alocate more funds (relatively speaking) towards graphics. I imagine we'll start seeing the impact of HBM1/2 in the RX 5900 series if they feature it.
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#4
ZoneDymo
This is just not needed right now with the pricing being way too high anyway, every card has to come down like 200 - 250 - 300 dollars first.
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#5
theoneandonlymrk
ZoneDymo
This is just not needed right now with the pricing being way too high anyway, every card has to come down like 200 - 250 - 300 dollars first.
This is bottom end , like below those prices and I think your over doing your discount, so an 5700 needs to be between 50-150 and a 2060 something similar before these sell.

Im not liking the hikes in prices but each gen I do expect some inflation , your being unrealistic or are an Nvidia owner since only Nvidia go high enough in price for me to align with your figures and im talking 2080/2080ti or supers , they're overpriced by 2-300 Imho.

Amd overpriced, a bit not 300.

And finally , irrelevant anyway for 150-250 cards.
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#6
_Flare
The GFXBench non-offscreen Tests can be manipulated by reducing the Screen-Resolution to very low settings e.g. 480x320 without beeing reported.
They are useless because of that.

The only somewhat usefull Tests are the Offscreen ones because they run always on a fixed resolution.
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#7
Valantar
Athlonite
this would appear to not even beat an RX580


Given that it's called 5500 I really wouldn't expect it to. This looks and sounds more like a GTX 1650/Ti competitor. While I can't make much sense of the GFXBench database - both the 1650, 1660 and 1660Ti seem to have pretty much the same median score (though there are also a bunch of outliers with absurd scores up to 10x the median) - this is significantly faster than the median scores for those cards (whatever that might indicate).
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#8
notb
That's quite low. Maybe an early development sample or a dialed down version for an AiO?

If 5500 would go between RX570 and RX580... what about 5300?
I expected it to replace RX560 (entry level gaming), but maybe it's more like an RX550 ("IGP on my Ryzen 3700X doesn't work")...
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#9
efikkan
notb
That's quite low. Maybe an early development sample or a dialed down version for an AiO?

If 5500 would go between RX570 and RX580... what about 5300?
I expected it to replace RX560 (entry level gaming), but maybe it's more like an RX550 ("IGP on my Ryzen 3700X doesn't work")...
Don't read too much into it, these synthetic benchmarks can be all over the place. While the drivers should be good enough now, we don't know if this is running the final clocks, or the test conditions.
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#10
AlB80
I think that is completely incorrect comparison: FullHD OpenGL RX 5500 vs 2K DX11 RX 5700 XT.

Manhattan FullHD OpenGL:
1. RX 5500 median is 5020 Frames (81.0 Fps). Best score is 5430 Frames (87.6 Fps).
2. RX 5700 XT median is 18818 Frames (303.5 Fps). Best score is 24956 Frames (402.5 Fps).
Even best vs median causes more than three times loss.
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#11
Casecutter
I'd think this RX 5500 would be hitting as the new "entry 1080p"... while just PCIe power, at about twice a RX 560 does now or about RX 570 4Gb.
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#12
Chloe Price
Casecutter
I'd think this RX 5500 would be hitting as the new "entry 1080p"... while just PCIe power, at about twice a RX 560 does now or about RX 570 4Gb.
And it would be more than enough for typical gamer, or someone with a budget. A RX 570 can still have its job done pretty fine.
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#13
potato580+
another new product by amd :o, i think amd start to strikebacl nvidia now:D
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#14
medi01
570 is half perf of 5700XT.
460 is half perf of 570.

I don't know how much sense does a card with perf between 460 and 570 make.
If it is really cheap, perhaps certain OEMs wanted it, to pair with Zen 3xxx series, which, as I remember, are all GPU less.
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#15
Chrispy_
Without knowing the screen resolution this was tested at, those results are utterly meaningless.
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#16
AlB80
Chrispy_
Without knowing the screen resolution this was tested at, those results are utterly meaningless.
It was FullHD OpenGL best score for RX 5500 vs 2K DX11 median for RX 5700 XT.
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#17
Casecutter
Rethinking this I just wonder... Knowing that 7nm process is expensive (relatively) and TSMC running at capacity would it be in AMD best interest trying to shoe-horn something like this in production as 7nm? Could the Gloflo news today of the 12LP+ process and RDNA produce a chip of near the level of a RX 570 and on 75W?

"12LP+ provides either a 20% increase in performance or a 40% reduction in power requirements over the base 12LP platform, plus a 15% improvement in logic area scaling." But what does that look like against Gloflo's older 14nm? Plus consider there's some testing that saying 20 to 35% uplift depending on the game in architectural improvements from from Polaris to Navi can they get there?

Now sure still it looks like a huge "crevasse" for RDNA to make-up it all, but what if what was the Polaris 21 could be bumped up to a 1300-1400 Shader part (~30%) with the GDDR6 gains? Could a approximately 140mm² chip get under the lack-luster GTX 1650 (@200mm²)? AMD only needs about a 50% improvement from the RX 560 to be in-front of the GTX 1650, while then it would be on the heels of the RX 570. This probably is why the news of a GTX 1650 TI is being floated.

Even with just a 25% up-tick from Navi/GDDR6, say 30% more in Shader/architecture and while 40% less TDP from 12LP+ I think it's do-able and within a price lower than $150.
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#18
Chrispy_
AlB80
It was FullHD OpenGL best score for RX 5500 vs 2K DX11 median for RX 5700 XT.
Not sure it was though, since the original article mentions that a 5700 XT was only getting 8905 frames, which is less than an RX580 would normally score at 1080p in OGL.
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#19
Liquid Cool
I'm hugging my sub 100 dollar RX 570 Pulse ITX and my RX 580 Pulse all the tighter. For my simple little purposes....I love these cards.

Something about prying and cold dead hands is coming to mind...

:),

Liquid Cool
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#20
dicktracy
Nobody wants this. Pooplaris successor is at the $400 price range now. Budget PC gamers will soon be driven off to console gaming.
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#21
Valantar
dicktracy
Nobody wants this. Pooplaris successor is at the $400 price range now. Budget PC gamers will soon be driven off to console gaming.
Nobody wants new, faster budget GPUs? Your statement seems a bit contradictory.
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#22
Athlonite
Valantar
Nobody wants new, faster budget GPUs? Your statement seems a bit contradictory.
I think what he means is nobody wants to pay $400 for a bottom tier GPU a couple of hundred bucks then yeah I could see this selling but four hundred is a ridiculous price for low end GPU
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#23
Valantar
Athlonite
I think what he means is nobody wants to pay $400 for a bottom tier GPU a couple of hundred bucks then yeah I could see this selling but four hundred is a ridiculous price for low end GPU
Who has said anything about this costing that much? The recent leak article says $200-250, and most commenters seem to think that estimate is on the high side. If these cards are replacing Polaris they're likely to be below $200. The RX 5700 is $350 after all, and that certainly isn't a bottom tier GPU.
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#24
Athlonite
Valantar
Who has said anything about this costing that much? The recent leak article says $200-250, and most commenters seem to think that estimate is on the high side. If these cards are replacing Polaris they're likely to be below $200. The RX 5700 is $350 after all, and that certainly isn't a bottom tier GPU.
Not where i come from they wont be $200~250 bucks I can guarantee that they'll be $400+ here as for the RX 5700 well
Sapphire Radeon PULSE RX 5700 8GB GDDR6 Graphics Card, GPU Upto 1750MH
$654.35

so maybe where you live tech is cheap but certainly not where I live
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Valantar
Athlonite
Not where i come from they wont be $200~250 bucks I can guarantee that they'll be $400+ here
Is that NZ$ or US$? And with or without sales tax? US$250 is NZ$ 400, after all.
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