Thursday, February 6th 2020

AMD Desktop Processor Market Share Now at 18.3%: Mercury Research

Market intelligence firm Mercury Research published its findings on the x86 processor market towards the end of 2019, in which AMD has posted growth in all segments (not counting IoT or semi-custom). AMD held 18.3 percent of the desktop x86 processor market, according to the report. a 5-year high. The company's EPYC line of server processors face a more uphill battle against enterprises' entrenched brand loyalties to Intel. The company holds 4.5 percent of the server processor market, but growing 0.2 percent points versus the previous quarter, and 1.4 percentage points vs. the previous year. The last time AMD held such a market share in the server x86 processor market was in Q3-2013.

AMD's mobile processor market share may come as a surprise to some. According to Mercury Research, the company holds 16.2 percent of the mobile x86 processor market, which is almost as much as its desktop market. This is probably propelled by the popularity of AMD APUs and low-power CPUs in the cost-effective notebook market segments. AMD is now eyeing higher market segments with its Ryzen 4000 "Renoir" processors that make landfall this year. AMD is growing faster in the mobile space than desktop, with 1.5 percentage points growth in just Q4, and 4 percentage points year-over-year. AMD's mobile market share was this high back in Q2-2013. Mercury Research pins AMD's overall hold over the x86 market at 15.5%, averaged on all segments, minus semi-custom and IoT.
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99 Comments on AMD Desktop Processor Market Share Now at 18.3%: Mercury Research

#26
cucker tarlson
what was it before ryzen 3000 ?
18.3% may seem poor,but it's alll relative.if it's 18% from e.g. 8% previously then it's very,very good.

I wouldn't worry about the percantages really,amd have a tremendous momentum,it's gonna produce results sooner or later.
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#27
steve360
IceShroom
AMD is creating problem in semiconductor market with this piss poor market share. So AMD need to get out.
You mean AMD is creating a problem for Intel. Competition is a good thing. If AMD left, we'd be stuck with quad cores while trying to fix up endless variants of Spectre / Meltdown whack-a-mole style for the next 10 years.

If AMD's market share is "piss poor" then Intel has nothing to worry about. The thing is, they are definitely worried hence the massive price cuts on Cascade Lake X.
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#28
notb
cucker tarlson
what was it before ryzen 3000 ?
18.3% may seem poor,but it's alll relative.if it's 18% from e.g. 8% previously then it's very,very good.
Desktops alone?
Share for 2018Q4 was 15.8% (according to the same methodology by Market Research).
Pre-Ryzen share (2016Q4) was 9.9%.
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-vs-intel-cpu-market-share-q4-2019-epyc-and-ryzen-growth-decelerate-mobile-ryzen-up

But it was 18% in 2019Q3, so the last quarter of 2019 wasn't that great (despite good availability of Zen2 SoCs, holiday sales etc).
Both 2017Q4 and 2018Q4 were very good for AMD.
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#29
cucker tarlson
notb
Desktops alone?
Share for 2018Q4 was 15.8% (according to the same methodology by Market Research).
Pre-Ryzen share (2016Q4) was 9.9%.
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-vs-intel-cpu-market-share-q4-2019-epyc-and-ryzen-growth-decelerate-mobile-ryzen-up

But it was 18% in 2019Q3, so the last quarter of 2019 wasn't that great (despite good availability of Zen2 SoCs, holiday sales etc).
Both 2017Q4 and 2018Q4 were very good for AMD.
thought 3000 was gonna do better
maybe it's the high cost of x570,but you can run 3000 on a320

well,who cares about market shares really.

that makes me think about the news that amd have been outselling intel by some enormous margins based on some online shop.how much of it is true?
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#30
Tomorrow
notb
First and foremost, AMD needs a way to manufacture this awesome 7nm stuff. :)
Or we may see 2-3 more generations of Zen+ (or backported Zen2/Zen3 backported) for the low-end products.

And while TPU's take on this is very optimistic, many commentators noticed that AMD's growth is slowing down. Is it because of supply issues or the DIY demand drying up? We'll see next year when AMD gets more 7nm fab volume.
Ah yes. the known Intel apologist coming to spread the wisdom.
There was never supply issues from TSMC. The demand was just that high. Now that demand has calmed down all Zen 2 SKU's are readily available.
You better worry about Intel not being able to produce their products. That's been going on for years now it seems like.

Backported? Lol we're are talking about AMD here. Your daddy Intel is the one doing the backporting. All of it actually. AMD actually gave users a new 12nm R5 1600. What is that? ForwardPorting?
AMD's growth is not slowing down. Hate to break it to you but they already have reserved extra 30k 7nm wafers from TSMC this year that will be allocated to consoles and mobile growth mostly. Plus 7nm+ EUV capacity for Zen3 and RDNA2. Once Zen3 launches and ongoing EPYC deployments complete AMD will get a boost yet again.
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#31
prtskg
techguymaxc
Meanwhile, in a market segment that actually matters (server), AMD's marketshare has seen very little growth. AMD has stated their target for this market is to have 10% marketshare by next quarter. This is just simply not going to happen. Slow growth is the name of the game in this market.

Source: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/amd-reportedly-targeting-10-market-202653372.html

Before all the fanboys get their panties in a twist, just because I'm saying this doesn't mean I want it to happen, I'm just telling the truth. I actually want AMD to have success in all markets, and if the server hardware refresh date of the organization I work for were coming up soon, I would absolutely push for Epyc-powered systems. Alas, we still have another 3 years left on our current production servers, so who knows what the competitive environment will look like at that time.
Just a reminder -
"Mercury Research captures all x86 server class processors in their server unit estimate, regardless of device (server, network or storage), whereas the estimated 1P [single-socket] and 2P [two-socket] TAM [Total Addressable Market] provided by IDC only includes traditional servers. "
And AMD bases its server share projections on IDC's forecasts.
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#32
Easo
IceShroom
I dont smoke. AMD is creating problem in semiconductor market with this piss poor market share. So AMD need to get out.
But it certainly looks like you are. AMD had even worse market share for years with non-stop downwards trend (a common knowledge), and now that they are climbing up and Intel actually has a real competitor, you are saying that they should close the shop and leave Intel as monopoly?
What are you, Intel's CEO?
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#33
HD64G
Intel has already spent much money on the server segment to keep their customers with incentives me thinks. At least there are some very big companies and data centers that their admins cannot be bought from Intel and are already on contract to AMD for their servers (Amazon, Google, TSMC, etc).
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#34
Zach_01
Be aware good people...
We can easily turn this thread into a flame nonsense, because some random mindless wants to entertain himself by watching us... with his free Intel CPU system...
Or maybe he/she wants a new one for free.
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#35
Ahhzz
Ladies, gentlemen, and children, take whichever nomenclature refers to you as applicable, and keep it on topic, and keep it civil. Name calling, trolling, and aggressive posting will result in mini-vacations or more.
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#36
AsRock
TPU addict
eidairaman1
For what reason, so you're saying you'd rather not have a choice? Sounds like communist thinking. You need your head examined.



Actually they aren't causing a problem.
Yeah they are, for Intel though hehe, but they had it coming for years now. Maybe if AMD did not sell their chips as cheap as they have been they would of had a bigger market share.

Losing AMD would be terrible for all of us as you know.
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#37
Darmok N Jalad
As Apple has shown for some time now, it’s not all about marketshare, but margins. What segment of the market is AMD’s current market share? As the OP notes, AMD has a higher-than-expected market share in mobile, but it’s mostly tied up in budget notebooks, which are powered by low-margin products. Desktop Ryzen is in a much better segment position than Bulldozer probably ever was, so even if marketshare is the same, margins were likely better. There’s nothing wrong with seeking more market share, but it’s not the whole story.

Server space is a different beast entirely. It’s not as simple as just swapping one desktop box for another, and many IT departments have a hard enough time with the latter.
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#38
medi01
ador250
Next 2 years probably gain around 50% share. I mean Intel has nothing new on desktop until 2021.
That would mean 1000% grows, now way would that happen.

If anything, it shows how depressive the situation is.

On GPU side of things AMD has about double those 18%.

prtskg
Just a reminder -
"Mercury Research captures all x86 server class processors in their server unit estimate, regardless of device (server, network or storage), whereas the estimated 1P [single-socket] and 2P [two-socket] TAM [Total Addressable Market] provided by IDC only includes traditional servers. "
And AMD bases its server share projections on IDC's forecasts.
Yep. From Yahoo article green shill "from Asia" is referring to:

"AMD has a 7% share of the server processor market,"

That was as of Nov 19. With 1.2-ish growth from OP, that gets them to around 10% now, nothing unrealistic about crossing 10% mark in Q2.
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#39
Vayra86
IceShroom
This kind of gain in market share looks poor. AMD need to close their shop.
U mad bro?

Gaining 3-4% on Intel in some markets is significant. Give them 3 more years like this and look where that share is at. Suddenly a fifth turned into a third. That is a number that will put Intel's fabs on layback mode.
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#40
ARF
It's more interesting that AMD outsells now for many consecutive quarters like 85% to 15% at MindFactory De.
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#41
bug
ARF
It's more interesting that AMD outsells now for many consecutive quarters like 85% to 15% at MindFactory De.
Jeez, will you guys let that rest already?
You have the cold numbers to look at now and you still think a tiny seller that sells more AMD CPUs than it does Intel will give you the big picture? It will give you the picture you want, but... really?
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#42
ARF
MindFactory is not small, should add to it Amazon, Newegg, Ebay and all the others where AMD outsells significantly.
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#43
bug
ARF
MindFactory is not small, should add to it Amazon, Newegg, Ebay and all the others where AMD outsells significantly.
Yup, keep telling yourself that*.

*They're smaller than Microcenter.
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#44
Fluffmeister
However you want to slice it, AMD are making a comeback.

It's clearly awful to be in a duopoly, but they are doing okay.
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#45
bug
Fluffmeister
However you want to slice it, AMD are making a comeback.

It's clearly awful to be in a duopoly, but they are doing okay.
Of course they are, that much is obvious. I was just saying, after countless posts of "omg, mindfactory.de reports AMD outsells Intel 3:1", we're being told AMD still hasn't breached 20% market share. That kinda puts things in perspective (though I have always claimed mindfactory stats are irrelevant, I was constantly told "hey, it's the only numbers we've got").
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#46
IceShroom
eidairaman1
For what reason, so you're saying you'd rather not have a choice?
Both poeple and developer dont want more choice. Specially app developer as they have to work more to optimize for other architecture.
Actually they aren't causing a problem.
They are. Because if AMD now people have to pay more for VMWare software.
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#47
jigar2speed
IceShroom
Both poeple and developer dont want more choice. Specially app developer as they have to work more to optimize for other architecture.

They are. Because if AMD now people have to pay more for VMWare software.
Are you ok buddy, did you hit your head ? Are you aware that the cap was always there for dual socket since it increased the core count but since AMD is ryzing (:D) the core count on single socket they had to change their licensing terms to number of cores ? Do you know even Windows have socket based licensing terms due to core count increase ? Infact you will be surprised a lot of software solutions are socket based as the core count increases.

Do you even think twice before posting ? Do you know how many people get jobs and are on job because AMD is in the market ? Do you think consoles are made by Intel ? Do you know how many 3rd party manufactures are AMD exclusive and if AMD were no more they would lose job just because of your stupid fantasy of Intel fanboyism ?
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#48
IceShroom
jigar2speed
Do you even think twice before posting ? Do you know how many people get jobs and are on job because AMD is in the market ? Do you think consoles are made by Intel ? Do you know how many 3rd party manufactures are AMD exclusive and if AMD were no more they would lose job just because of your stupid fantasy of Intel fanboyism ?
And how many people lose their job because of Ryzen? I can say a good amount.
Past Consoles didnt run amd, but on Nvidia and IBM combination. If there there were no AMD then current generation would have also ran on Nvidia+IBM combination.
I really like to know how many manufacturer are AMD exclusive?? How many??
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#49
R0H1T
You know you don't have to go full Walter White, or Saul Goodman, to state your point ~ which frankly I'm struggling to ascertain o_O
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#50
IceShroom
Zach_01
You like to get your CPUs less expensive or you like Intel to continuously charge wood for gold? From which case are you gaining more? Care to elaborate?
Did Ryzen changed Intel pricing? I am seeing not. The real I5s are still $250(expect for the crippled ones). i7s are still $350+.
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