Wednesday, February 19th 2020
New AMD Listings in Korean RRA Certification Point to Impending Graphics Cards Release - Big Navi?
The Korean RRA has listed AMD graphics cards for certification this month which may well point towards an actual announcement coming from AMD during the next month. The company has already confirmed they will be discussing RDNA2 graphics cards come their next Financial Analyst Day, set for March 5th. The new entries, D32310 and D30201, have been listed on February 03 and February 19, respectively. This is relevant for a March announcement - even if just a paper one - of the new RDNA2 GPUs because historically, it seems that AMD has registered impending releases with the Korean RRA roughly one month prior to actual product releases.
As you can see in the listing, AMD registered two graphics cards in June 2019 (D16302 and D18206 - and one month later, in July, the company released Navi-based RX 5700 XT and RX 5700. AMD also registered the RX 5600 XT model number, D32501, on December 3, 2019 with a release one month later on January 21, 2020. AMD similarly registered model number D18902 on November 27, 2019 - and AMD released the 5500 XT on December 12, less than a month later. There seems to be a pattern here. if you're wondering why the model number for these new February registrations is lower than that of the RX 5600 XT (D32501 against the newer, yet lower D32310 and D30201), it could have something to do with the fact that AMD decided to carve out the RX 5600 XT SKU later than they knew they'd be releasing Big Navi - as an attempt to curtail NVIDIA in the GTX 1660 Ti and GTX 1660 Super battlefield.
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As you can see in the listing, AMD registered two graphics cards in June 2019 (D16302 and D18206 - and one month later, in July, the company released Navi-based RX 5700 XT and RX 5700. AMD also registered the RX 5600 XT model number, D32501, on December 3, 2019 with a release one month later on January 21, 2020. AMD similarly registered model number D18902 on November 27, 2019 - and AMD released the 5500 XT on December 12, less than a month later. There seems to be a pattern here. if you're wondering why the model number for these new February registrations is lower than that of the RX 5600 XT (D32501 against the newer, yet lower D32310 and D30201), it could have something to do with the fact that AMD decided to carve out the RX 5600 XT SKU later than they knew they'd be releasing Big Navi - as an attempt to curtail NVIDIA in the GTX 1660 Ti and GTX 1660 Super battlefield.
84 Comments on New AMD Listings in Korean RRA Certification Point to Impending Graphics Cards Release - Big Navi?
But there is no serious catching up left, after Navi release.
It beats Turing transistor for transistor.
There might (or might not, as cards are pushed further than needed) be a small gap on power consumption front.
That's it.
As for lack of TI price bracket cards:
1) 99% (literally) of the market could not care less
2) They'll get there pretty soon too, but there is no "catching up" (technology wise) aspect to it. There is no doubt they can make bigger chips, but an underdog (still) has only so many engineers and so much money for R&D.I'd expect from tech savvy users to realize where the catch is in this picture.
2080 can afford to go lower clocks, to give NV more headroom for new products.
XT, on the opposite, is pushed well beyond its comfort zone.Same die lower clocks is 180w. Nothing stops AMD from making even bigger chip and downclocking them.
Check clock speed on 2080 and 2080Ti.That alternative history of yours.
Nvidia launched Turing long before 5700 and Navi arrived.Messages: 62
Totally not paid, totally not shill, totally not spreading FUD.And his victims.
Major reviewers experiencing no such problems, despite testing dozens of cards in dozens of configurations, and some using 5700XT for 4+ hours a day.
Why? NV has no need.
That's why those strange voices in my head say 48CU is probably the most we'll get from Navi refresh... realistically that's the only way to stay within adequate 250-275W limit for consumer cards.
Also, don't forget that on Turing (and Pascal, and Navi) boost clock is vague, temperature-dependent, and load-dependent. Just pointing at stock 1500-1700MHz means very little, when the card boosts upwards of 1900MHz if cooled properly and not head-banging into TDP cap (w/o overclocking).
Most people have already forgotten that there were rumors of "big Polaris" and "big Vega" too…
And AMD "Arcturus" does exist, but it's a Vega-derived data-center product.Still, Nvidia greatly outsells AMD in the mid-range.
And as you can see in the Steam hardware survey, there are more people with RTX 2080s / 2080 Tis than RX 5700s…You are confusing maximum density of a node and average density of a chip.Different parts of chip designs will scale differently. E.g. cache will shrink very well, while hotter parts like FPUs wouldn't.
Don't get me wrong, the jump to 7nm EUV will be a huge upgrade for Nvidia, but we're not talking about a 3-4x density improvement, more like ~30% (+/- 10%).When did a "big Navi" specifically pass a certification?I advice you to learn what IPC actually means, it's not applicable here.
If anything, we should expect the greatest improvements in the first iteration of an "architecture", followed by smaller and smaller improvements.
RDNA 2 = RDNA 2, a 100% new architecture.
If people had paid attention to the presentation of AMD for the RX 5700 / 5700XT (Navi), they could have heard it from Lisa Su themselves. That is what AMD (Lisa) said.
If AMD release RTX 2080 equivalent or better GPU with actual usable driver, then I will switch to AMD.
It's a win-win situation for consumers.
I don't know why it is so hard for people to understand.So much salt ;)
Totally no driver issues, totally no random black screen, totally no random core clock drop,totally no high idle power consumption with high refresh rate monitor, totally not being a AMD shill ;)
I mean just do a quick google search and compare the amount of driver issues between AMD and Nvidia.
Don't know if i am going even bother yet, well i do know theirs no chance i am willing to spend $700+ on just a video card ha.
random core clock drop - what is this? Does it influence negatively the frame rate? Maybe it's a designed feature?;
high idle power consumption with high refresh rate monitor - the same as above - maybe it's a designed feature that users have to simply accept?!;
being a AMD shill - totally lack of understanding and blaming the others for own mistakes.
If random stuttering (result of core clock dropping) and high idle power consumption are so called "designed feature", I think AMD definitely nailed it ;)
just like I said, do a google search and you will find the answer.What? Calling others shill randomly is a bad thing now? I wonder who started this ;)
However, I do agree that it is users' mistakes. They should have listened to others' warning ;)
ITS NOT PROVEN WHAT IS CAUSING AMD DRIVER ISSUES IN ANY WAY AT ALL, THATS NOT THAT RELEVANT HERE ANYWAY AND AS EVER THE GREAT MAJORITY USE AMD FINE.
AND LOW AND BEHOLD MANY HAVE ISSUES WITH NVIDIA DRIVERS
complex systems have complex issues, simple people simplify any issue to simply finger pointing.
Anyway. Celebrate you guys. New graphics is coming and we get to see all the benchmarks for comparison. New stuff new opportunities.
I don't know why some AMD fans are so defensive about this. Even for those who have the cards it´s bad to ignore the problem just to "defend your brand". If people go into denial, AMD sees no reason to try to fix the problems and improve the experience for their costumers.
I know many people who have an AMD GPU and no one has a problem, reviewers also have no problems with AMD cards and neither do their family members, just look at hardware unboxed for example.
It all started with a dubious redit message. Now all problems suddenly become AMD's fault, not from the user because of, for example, a wrong OC or Windows settings because the user has changed it. It can't be due to Microsoft's updates, etc. No, it is all due to AMD fault because a few people on redit say so.....:wtf: They (the redit users) cannot even be checked if it is all really true wat they say.
Because this whole witch hunt is underway, AMD must respond as a large company.
According to Nvidia fans it takes a long time because it might not be an AMD "problem" ....:)
Nvidia fans enjoy this, they love it. Although I continue to find it strange why people are a big fan of a company, the only thing the companies want is your money nothing more nothing less.
Anyone who has delt with PC's for a number of years it could be 101+ reasons. Like shit i can get a black screen with the 290X and the 390X i have now which i believe is due to the PCI-e slot and not the card.
Yet you repeat this again.
Very bright comment, thank you so much for this, I'll go punish myself for not realizing its greatness in full the first time.
Bigger NV chips clearly drop clocks, which leads to watt/CU to go down (and to wrong impressions about CU scaling, but that beside the point)
Fuses are burnt on this acc, I'm sorry about that.
Feel free to create new one though.
@cucker tarlson will appreciate.
is it,by any chance,related to driver issues?
Don't worry, I won't create a new account just so you can keep that screenshot as your trophy if that makes you happy ;)
Instead, I encourage you to spread this screenshot, so people can see how much of a clown an AMD shill is ;)