Friday, March 27th 2020

Intel Core i9-10980HK Detailed: 8-core Mobile Monstrosity that Boosts up to 5.30 GHz

In no mood to cede mobile performance leadership to AMD and its Ryzen 9 4900HS processor, Intel is readying its new flagship mobile part, the Core i9-10980HK. Based on the 14 nm "Comet Lake-H" silicon, this chip packs an 8-core/16-thread CPU with a maximum boost speed (aka "Thermal Velocity Boost") of 5.30 GHz, while maintaining an aggressive power target of 45 W TDP. This should put the chip's performance somewhere between the desktop Core i7-9700K and the Core i9-9900K, both of which have TDP rated at 95 W, although the chip could perform very close to the latter at gaming, thanks to its 300 MHz higher boost frequency. Intel is expected to launch the 10th generation Core i9 H-series processors on April 2nd, around the same time when NVIDIA launches its mobile GeForce RTX 20 Super series.
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99 Comments on Intel Core i9-10980HK Detailed: 8-core Mobile Monstrosity that Boosts up to 5.30 GHz

#1
Object55
good good, put all cards on the table
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#2
Hyrel
Boost up to 5.3 GHz on a laptop? Just marketing bs, what's the point, it could be capable of boosting to 10 GHz but you'll still underclock it to like 3 GHz if you don't want it to throttle as soon as you start any game.
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#4
windwhirl
champsilva

Unless we have fully detailed specs of the devices used in such comparisons, they're mostly null and void for such purposes, specially since OEMs can configure TDP targets. See the following examples:



Same CPUs can have very different results.

And let's not get started on benchmark procedures or whether Userbenchmark is a good choice for evaluating performance.
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#5
R0H1T
dicktracy
And their competitor can barely overclock on a full blown desktop while requiring the infamous 1.5 volt!
Is that supposed to be sarcasm :wtf:
danbert2000
I doubt this 10980HK is going to be able to deliver consistent performance at all.
It's a desktop replacement, for sure not fit on a notebook unless you call those Eurocom or Clevo "luggages" that!
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#6
danbert2000
I just had a huge headache with my laptop with an i5-7300HQ processor where the "Intel Dynamic Platform and Thermal Framework" was throttling an already slow 3.1 GHz all core boost processor to 2.0 GHz. If my laptop was throttling so hard out of the box (before I used ThrottleStop and uninstalled the framework to get the laptop to stop power limiting), you have to wonder what kind of monster laptop would be needed to have this processor even aproach 5.3 GHz in games.

Intel is throwing up big numbers on the spec sheet but their processors are now more thermally constrained than AMD. I doubt this 10980HK is going to be able to deliver consistent performance at all.
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#7
notb
Hyrel
Boost up to 5.3 GHz on a laptop? Just marketing bs, what's the point, it could be capable of boosting to 10 GHz but you'll still underclock it to like 3 GHz if you don't want it to throttle as soon as you start any game.
The point is: for interactive, intermittent use this will provide very similar experience to a high-end desktop CPU.

Long, continuous tasks will obviously take longer and you'd get less fps in games, but many would be surprised by how small the gap is.
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#8
Turmania
I think it would be wise to wait for reviews before judging it. So you don't look like a fool.
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#9
ARF
Hyrel
Boost up to 5.3 GHz on a laptop? Just marketing bs, what's the point, it could be capable of boosting to 10 GHz but you'll still underclock it to like 3 GHz if you don't want it to throttle as soon as you start any game.
5.3 GHz for a nanosecond or what?

Also, the fastest Ryzen is Ryzen 9 4900HS.
You should compare Core i9-10980HK with Ryzen 9 4900HS.
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#10
Vya Domus
Let's see a 9900KS, a desktop processor, already at the limits of the node comes with a 5 Ghz boost clock out of the box.

A mobile CPU, 5.3 Ghz ?

The 1st of April is still a couple of days away.
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#11
TheLostSwede
dicktracy
And their competitor can barely overclock on a full blown desktop while requiring the infamous 1.5 volt!
Welcome to my ignore list, as apparently the only thing you post is crap like this.
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#12
londiste
Vya Domus
Let's see a 9900KS, a desktop processor, already at the limits of the node comes with a 5 Ghz boost clock out of the box.

A mobile CPU, 5.3 Ghz ?

The 1st of April is still a couple of days away.
On one core (and with additional notes at that), why not?
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#13
Jism
Hyrel
Boost up to 5.3 GHz on a laptop? Just marketing bs, what's the point, it could be capable of boosting to 10 GHz but you'll still underclock it to like 3 GHz if you don't want it to throttle as soon as you start any game.
Point me any game that demands a full 100% usage while playing it. Thing is; you cant. And most cores are like utilized for roughly 10% to 20% of it's 100%.

So in that case, you are within the power enveloppe and you can boost. AMD does the same thing. Consoles now do the same thing.
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#14
ARF
Jism
Point me any game that demands a full 100% usage while playing it.
Many games do, with the old 4C quads with HT, and the 8C i7-9700K, too:

answers.ea.com/t5/Technical-Issues/i7-9700k-100-CPU-usage/td-p/8346751

linustechtips.com/main/topic/1125908-100-cpu-usage-in-games-9700k/

forums.tomshardware.com/threads/i7-9700k-at-100-cpu-usage-in-games.3539442/

forums.tomshardware.com/threads/100-cpu-usage-while-gaming.3449294/
londiste
On one core (and with additional notes at that), why not?
It should boost for nanoseconds, I don't see any technical difficulty. Actually, why didn't they introduce this feature years ago ?
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#15
mtcn77
Good old Intel. How is the melting thermal sink material(candle wax) playing along its development cycle, I wonder. Intel had this 'boost to phase change' goal set on its targets a few years back.
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#16
ratirt
We don't see the power usage here for the Intel processor (maybe it has been removed and that laptop is cooled with nitrogen) but we know how AMD 4800H performs and that has been presented here. I'd rather wait for official benchmarks since we dont know how much power this Intel CPU here is using.
5.3Ghz on a laptop and desktops have problems with sustaining 5.2 Ghz. Boost is relative to what it is in reality. When I see it, with full specs and information, I can say 'great'.
As someone mentioned, 4800H is not the top model so there.
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#17
Jism
ARF
Many games do, with the old 4C quads with HT, and the 8C i7-9700K, too:

answers.ea.com/t5/Technical-Issues/i7-9700k-100-CPU-usage/td-p/8346751

linustechtips.com/main/topic/1125908-100-cpu-usage-in-games-9700k/

forums.tomshardware.com/threads/i7-9700k-at-100-cpu-usage-in-games.3539442/

forums.tomshardware.com/threads/100-cpu-usage-while-gaming.3449294/





It should boost for nanoseconds, I don't see any technical difficulty. Actually, why didn't they introduce this feature years ago ?
The games you point here are related to problems rather then a game running as it should.
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#18
ratirt
Jism
The games you point here are related to problems rather then a game running as it should.
Are they? It would seem that there is no other way. If there's 100% CPU usage that means game problem. As I recall, there are games more CPU bound than others and that is dependent on the game. So if you have 100% CPU usage may not be caused necessarily because a game has a problem.
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#19
Vya Domus
londiste
On one core (and with additional notes at that), why not?
Why not ?

One of these things would have to be miracle class silicon, look on silicon lottery and tell me how many 5.3 ghz 9900KS you find. Or how many 5.3 ghz CPUs you find in general. I can't even imagine how many wafers they'd have to scour in order to find one these that fit the power envelope and can do 5.3 ghz.

It's ridiculous, it's not even funny at this point. It's one last (hopefully) desperate yell for attention from Intel on their ever increasingly uninteresting products.
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#20
sergionography
Melting laptops will be the new trend. Or laptops with cup holders to keep your coffee hot
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#21
moob
champsilva

I thought it was pretty much agreed upon that userbenchmark was hot garbage? Why is anyone still using that site, much less as a source of anything?

They even link to one of the videos calling them out on being biased on their about page, which is a head-scratching move to say the least: www.userbenchmark.com/page/about
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#22
MDDB
Vya Domus
look on silicon lottery and tell me how many 5.3 ghz 9900KS you find.
You know Silicon Lottery overclocks ALL cores, while this is supposed to be a 1-core boost.
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#23
Valantar
Base clock? The i9-9980HK is 2.4GHz, so unless they've done some real magic with this it will essentially be the same.
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#24
NeuralNexus
dicktracy
And their competitor can barely overclock on a full blown desktop while requiring the infamous 1.5 volt!
This is straight bs! Not to mention that smaller nodes do not GAIN the benefit of higher clock speeds, like past nodes. IF Intel ever creates 10nm or even 7nm desktop parts...clock speeds won't hit no where near 5GHz
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#25
Vya Domus
MDDB
You know Silicon Lottery overclocks ALL cores, while this is supposed to be a 1-core boost.
No, I didn't know that, I thought it was just one core as well.

On a less ironic note, you do realize that whether it's 1 or 8 cores, something like 5.3 Ghz is still an extreme clock speed which requires extreme silicon quality.

As I pointed out this is also supposed to be a mobile chip, that makes it even harder to find a piece of silicon that can do all of this, at least a 9900KS isn't power constrained. This is, a lot, you can't just have a CPU with let's say a 45W power limit and have one core hit 5.3 Ghz using probably at least 15-20W alone, this thing is beyond ridiculous. This is supposed to be unlocked but I can't imagine how one could make a laptop supporting these sort of thermals.

Calling this a proper competing product it's going to be a stretch.
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