Bee9Rather have a gold rated 650 than a cheapo 750w. Im running a 850w platinum and I think that will be enough to last for the next 5 years or so.

Bee9Rather have a gold rated 650 than a cheapo 750w. Im running a 850w platinum and I think that will be enough to last for the next 5 years or so.

For this Intel generation, what I am afraid the most is the pricing. They cannot price the 10900k more than $500. Just too high for what it offers relative to the competition

Bee9Rather have a gold rated 650 than a cheapo 750w. Im running a 850w platinum and I think that will be enough to last for the next 5 years or so.

For this Intel generation, what I am afraid the most is the pricing. They cannot price the 10900k more than $500. Just too high for what it offers relative to the competition

EarthDogWho wouldn't? What is your point here?

850W should last until that PSU dies or you go multiple high wattage GPUs...(and who is doing that these days?). It's overspent for single CPU/GPU rigs.

A quality 650W Gold unit is plenty for 90% of users using a single card. This wattage allows for ambient CPU overclocks as well as GPU overclocks while still living in the 50% to 75% range.

MakaveliFor this processor I'm going to be more curious about people slapping inadequate coolers on it then complaining about not hitting the higher clock speeds.

EarthDogEveryone's anecdotes are amusing. I'll add to it.

Don't mind my 550W Sunbeam from Circa 2004(?) still going string powering an 1500X and RTX 2060 today.

EarthDogEveryone's anecdotes are amusing. I'll add to it.

Don't mind my 550W Sunbeam from Circa 2004(?) still going string powering an 1500X and RTX 2060 today.

Decryptor009Since failures happen to even the best PSU's... it becomes much more subjective at that point.

Decryptor009Anecdotes still work far superior to any objective thing with a PSU when you are comparing units that deliver their wattage and are decent or above, you can be very objective when it is a pile of junk vs a decent unit however.

Since failures happen to even the best PSU's... it becomes much more subjective at that point.

EarthDogAnecdotes are a joke. I don't care what dick, tom, and jane do compared to the 10,000 other units sold. ;)

Yes, why would we talk about random failures that can happen to any unit?

You guys crack me up... love my avatar.

Have a great day, peeps! :)

EarthDogI've already went over these talking points. The efficiency difference is NOTHING (a max of 3%, actual ~1%)..so that point isn't really one. Fans may spin up faster, sure... but again, I don't hear shit over 5 case fans and a GPU. Also note, my PSU fan barely turns on with a 4.5 GHz 16c/32T CPU (Intel) and a 2080 Ti overclocked. That isn't using any more power than the 10900K. ;)
Right. That is what we are talking about......QUALITY PSUs... not shit... come on. Even 5 year PSUs would be fine running a couple of C warmer. A quality PSU should run its label rating for the life of its warranty. Ya'll are making mountains out of mole hills causing you (and those reading) to overspend for no real reason.

If there is a $20-$30 difference, there is no way I would buy 750W over 650W in this case. None. That is $20-$30 wasted and never recovered.


Gentlemen......move on. Our points have been made. If you choose to spend more for little to no reason, that is on you/whoever is doing it. Im just here to say the reasons mentioned to go higher are soft at best. I've lived this life and have had zero issues over the last 2 decades. I've used 3 PSUs in that time. lol

Decryptor009Yes your old man arrogance won't ever change, it's always everyone else!

WeeRabNot so fast.
You've gone to great lengths arguing about a $20 - $30 difference in PSU's - And yet admit to spending $100's more on BS intel parts because of what? A couple of percentage points in gaming?
A pity your quest for efficiency doesn't extend to cold hard cash, "that is wasted and never recovered".

EarthDogIN this case, yeah. I find it hilarious that people spend $20-$30 more on a PSU that almost literally yields nothing.

Friend, the CPU I have I received for free (I'm a reviewer)... nice try though ;). Systems I have bought (for my kids) are AMD based. So, nice one, but incredibly misplaced. WTG. You and the other lemmings that thanked you are pretty cute assuming things about me.

Also, I get more out of my CPUs because I can utilize (not use) them. I was a competitive sub-ambient overclocker as well. So more cores/threads helps, and so do other chips with a lot faster clocks.

EarthDogYes. I take exception with people who prefer to spend more for nothing (and then try to justify it with BS reasons).

MakaveliWhy its not coming out of your pocket? And why is your jusification required someones else's purchase?

EarthDogYou're spot on, sir. I shouldn't care this much to force facts down people's throats and bemoan them when they do something seemingly illogical. But...that is, sadly, built in to my character. We all have demons.

Edit: Please note what I responded to initially. :)

thesmokingmanDude, drain ports are a waste of time. Get QDC's, then you can drain from the QDC. Dedicated drain ports are circa 2010.

KarymidoNi oderdered some but due to the whole pandemic apocalypse thing they never arrived, still in processing (i had to order from china, couldn't find any in brazil).

thesmokingmanYou want two matching pairs. That way you can make a tubing extension with the extra pair. That tubing extension can then be cut to allow access to loop. You can point one end (low side) into a bucket, and grab the other and take a huge breath and blow the fluid out of the loop.

KarymidoNthx bro, i ordered 4 matching pairs just bc chinese stuff tends to fail when shipped for 2-3 months to brazil (being kicked and smashed + poor packging + low quality). i like the result but i went with some pastel color fluid, qualit is good, but it creates a lot of grossness in the loop. i'll be going clear by the end of this month.

phanbueyIm hoping the second hand market is flooded by 9900k peeps ditching to AMD/new platform.

ZoneDymoAre we looking at the same charts? I see at max a 6 fps difference...you cant even notice that unless you actively switch between the two....
I mean if you play on low settings on 1080p or below, basically if are a "pro" high fps player in CSGO sure go intel.

But if you are a more mainstream? or average gamer, they tend to prefere high resolutions and all the settings cranked, meaning you wont benefit from that Intel cpu at all, you would just be buying an aged cpu in a new suit.