Friday, July 24th 2020

Aqua Computer Introduces ULTITOP D5 DUAL Pump Top

Aqua Computer, the German specialist for water cooling systems, today presents a new dual pump top for D5 pumps. By using this dual pump top, the pressure provided by the two pumps connected in series is doubled and a redundant operation in case of failure of one pump is provided. The ULTITOP D5 DUAL has been optimized for lowest possible running noise and compact design. Aqua Computer has extensively simulated and optimized the geometry of the pump housing.

The pump can be easily installed in almost any installation situation thanks to two mounting options offset by 90°. A bracket available as an accessory also allows mounting on 120 and 140 mm fan holes. The supplied specially adapted decoupler made of very soft silicone dampers ensures that almost no vibrations are transmitted to the case. Aqua Computer manufactures the ULTITOP D5 DUAL in Germany in its own CNC facility. The main housing is made of acetal, the threads are G1/4". It is available as of now with a price tag of 79,90 Euro (~ 95 USD), additionally a kit with two D5 NEXT pumps is offered for 289,00 Euro (~ 340 USD).
Source: Aqua Computer
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17 Comments on Aqua Computer Introduces ULTITOP D5 DUAL Pump Top

#1
FreedomEclipse
~Technological Technocrat~
Nice looking rifle scope.
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#2
argon
for the same price or even cheaper, i take a sanso phd pump, not even close

p.s. all these pump imho have no sense, since in 2020 multi-gpu don't exist anymore, and for cooling well a single gpu and a cpu more than a 360+240 you dont need
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#3
ZoneDymo
argon
for the same price or even cheaper, i take a sanso phd pump, not even close

p.s. all these pump imho have no sense, since in 2020 multi-gpu don't exist anymore, and for cooling well a single gpu and a cpu more than a 360+240 you dont need
considering the price tag of just this product, im sure this is for...enthusiasts who will (no matter if it makes sense or not) watercool everything.
SSD, M.2, Soundcard EVERYTHING
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#4
argon
ZoneDymo
considering the price tag of just this product, im sure this is for...enthusiasts who will (no matter if it makes sense or not) watercool everything.
SSD, M.2, Soundcard EVERYTHING
I can understand watercooling ram for overclocking.
I could understand back in days watercooling psu till there were no passive one.
But whats the sense of watercooling soundcards ? It doesnt had fans on it so they're already silent, same for SSD, tell me more about SSD overclocking dude! HAHA

As of today SLi of 2080ti/titan RTX overclocked is the max you can get if you have money, could be keeped well under a single 480 for them is more than enough and if you want to really exaggerate you take another 480 for the cpu, you don't really need a very powerful pump for dual 480, a normal d5 is more than enough, ultra powerful pump don't changes temperatures, radiators DO, pump just need to exist, I had dual 480 back in the day (290x crossfire, 99% sure more hottest than todays 2080ti) and was running them fine with a single ddc-1t pump at 7v temp was fine.

Also I really want them to see how these dual d5 combo is related in performace/noise (dual small pump make more noise than one big pump) the good old (old is gold) Sanso Pdh-054 aquarium pump that people used to use back in the days for exxagerated systems, and they goes for less than half the price of this kit (around 90eur on my country).

Watercooling is enthusiast, there no enthusiasts part of watercooling, everythings is enthusiast, but if you don't really care about money I was just asking myself how these perform against the sanso, If you gonna buy them only cause they looks cool ok you won
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#5
zlobby
ZoneDymo
considering the price tag of just this product, im sure this is for...enthusiasts who will (no matter if it makes sense or not) watercool everything.
SSD, M.2, Soundcard EVERYTHING
I'm watedcooling the fan motors and the SATA cables! :rockout:
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#6
tiefox
Damm...I guess they copied me!

( I have used the EK dual top in here )
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#7
theoneandonlymrk
I have used a dual Ddc top from them for years, high quality part still doing well.
And as for one pump two 480s , have fun filling that shit, one pump struggles with the head pressure, it's doable and works when full but two makes it easy and then adds redundancy.
I have had a pump die ,it wasn't pretty.

Gota remember it'll last year's too mines seen three builds so far.
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#8
AnarchoPrimitiv
argon
for the same price or even cheaper, i take a sanso phd pump, not even close

p.s. all these pump imho have no sense, since in 2020 multi-gpu don't exist anymore, and for cooling well a single gpu and a cpu more than a 360+240 you dont need
I believe one of the primary objectives of a dual pump layout is the same as multiple PSUs in a rack mounted server, redundancy. If you're watercooling something that runs 24-7 and is running at the upper bounds of performance and/or is overclocked, it's probably worth the extra cost of an additional pump to eliminate the risk of catastrophic damage in the event that one pump fails. If you had a $3000+ watercooled PC build or $5000+ watercooled server, I think it would be very easy to justify the $100 cost of an additional pump to protect that investment.
tiefox
Damm...I guess they copied me!

( I have used the EK dual top in here )

What has been your experience with the new aquacomputer D5 pump (I believe it's called the "Neo", or am I mistaken?). I've always felt that Watercool's (known for its Heatkiller product line) and Aquacomputer's blocks and other products are the best with respect to quality and I'm beginning to procure parts to upgrade my home server/NAS setup and thinking about watercooling the CPU, along with a few other components and four 480mm radiators that will below the server case in a 4U server rack shelf I've welded together to hold the rads.

Through a friend who's a network engineer I procured a lightly used Epyc 7302 (16 Zen2 Cores, 3.0Ghz base, 3.3 Gjz boost, 128 pcie 4.0 lanes) and an AsRock Rack ROMED8-2T ATX Server Motherboard (things a beast, 7x PCIe 4.0x16 slots, all electrically x16!, dual 10GBase-T, though I've already got an Intel X710-T4 quad 10GBase-T NIC that'll throw in there). I'm going to cool the Epyc 7302 with, what I think is the best looking Epyc/Threadripper block on the market, the Heatkiller IV (pictured below) and I'm actually going to use solid works to design and CNC mill my own block for the LSI 9305-24i HBA and maybe even the X710-T4 NIC as well depending on how the HBA block turns out. I really want to use virtualization and PCIe pass through to be able to render and stream games as well as movies to several ultralight (hardware wise) HTPCs and some thin/zero clients around the house, so I might eventually add a couple gpu blocks to the loop down the line, so I need a few good pumps. I want to avoid straight server/industrial pumps though because I'd like the option of using them later on in a desktop build just in case watercooling the server doesn't work out for some reason.

You can read reviews, but they never tell you how the product works 3, 6, or 12 months down the road, so I like hearing from actual owners when possible.
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#9
tiefox
AnarchoPrimitiv
What has been your experience with the new aquacomputer D5 pump (I believe it's called the "Neo", or am I mistaken?). I've always felt that Watercool's (known for its Heatkiller product line) and Aquacomputer's blocks and other products are the best with respect to quality and I'm beginning to procure parts to upgrade my home server/NAS setup and thinking about watercooling the CPU, along with a few other components and four 480mm radiators that will below the server case in a 4U server rack shelf I've welded together to hold the rads.
I do believe that aquacomputer and watercool are the best brands out there. I have a bunch of stuff from them, regarding the D5 Next pump, I ended up not using the dual setup that I showed in the picture, but mostly due to my fault of mounting it in a non ideal position, thus causing lots of air trapped into, so I moved into a dual ddc for one of my builds.

I do have one of those d5 next running in another build, and it is doing great, I really like it.

I have only heatkiller blocks and tube for my builds and 3x420 aquacomputer copper radiators + aquero 6 lt + farbwerk. All great stuff. I'm also based in Denmark, so pretty easy for me to buy things straight from them.
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#10
bogami
I strongly suggest using the pumps in the traction function as this is the correct use of the pumps and two D5 pumps can cause excessive pressure on the pipe connectors which would end up spilling liquid in the computer. I myself have been using two D5 pumps for years and they serve me well. Therefore, the pumps should fill the tank and it should have a pressure regulating element (air flow to and from the tank). that the tank can also start to crack and I had to change the acrylic element several times due to the unbalanced pressure created during operation. of course we can also fast the supply element partially open and the pressure will be regulated, If the lup is carried correctly there will be no spills.
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#11
Frode Bergeton Nilsen
I have been running tripple pumps in series for years. No issues with any pressure regulating. None.

Also, I never used "tank", but only reservoirs. All EKWB.

Bleeding a system is a breeze with sufficient pump power, but filling it, is a real pain, if using all pumps. The backpressure is nuts, so I need to use a valve for filling, a fill it completely full, using one or two pumps. Or, simply slow down all the pumps. The issue with backpressure, is that if the pumps fail during filling, or you fill the loop and shuts off the pumps, you get a Geysir out the filling port. You may also run the pumps dry, if not being carefull.

But you do not scrap any setup, as you cannot bleed it, like Jay did in one of his builds. The advantage of multiple pumps is killer bleeding, like in minutes, not days. You get redundancy. But also, you can run the pumps virtually silent, as long as you watch the water temp, and increase the pump speed automatically when needed. Because you will, to stay below 50 degrees C. No matter how much radiators you got, well sort of, if you do your loop order right, you hardly ever need to ramp up the pump, but your delta will be a horror show.

Most people speak without any experience. Even less people actually monitor the water temp. Especially those claiming that loop order does not matter, while claiming to run a single pump really slow.

I write this on a 3700x system, and my air cooled CPU has two fans, that stays at about 600-800rpm full load. As in AWX torturing all cores. GPU fans are horrible, but with some basic 3D-printing, that can be fixed. Leaving any GPU at below 1000RPM air cooled. For water cooling to make any real sense, it has to be massive. And then there is coil whine... (Hello Gigabyte, have you ever tested your boards for whining?)

Single pump water cooling, makes absolutely no sense to me. Just properly air cool.
bogami
I strongly suggest using the pumps in the traction function as this is the correct use of the pumps and two D5 pumps can cause excessive pressure on the pipe connectors which would end up spilling liquid in the computer. I myself have been using two D5 pumps for years and they serve me well. Therefore, the pumps should fill the tank and it should have a pressure regulating element (air flow to and from the tank). that the tank can also start to crack and I had to change the acrylic element several times due to the unbalanced pressure created during operation. of course we can also fast the supply element partially open and the pressure will be regulated, If the lup is carried correctly there will be no spills.
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#12
bogami
Sorry for not understanding, the translator just wrote tank no reservoirs. These problems are caused by high temperature differences in the use space. A small room also heats up to 40 degrees on the juicy side in summer. I didn’t mention this and it’s good to know that the energy has to go somewhere. The pressure, however, is as strong as opening the plumbing to full and more! so vacuum is the right way to use it. What you all so happily forget is the real function of pamp means to pull something. And I currently have everything on EK .
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#13
Mescalamba
IMHO, better to put it in sequence..


360 rad - pump n1 - GPU block - 240 rad - pump n2 - CPU block

Dont think dual pump has much point tied together.
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#14
theoneandonlymrk
bogami
Sorry for not understanding, the translator just wrote tank no reservoirs. These problems are caused by high temperature differences in the use space. A small room also heats up to 40 degrees on the juicy side in summer. I didn’t mention this and it’s good to know that the energy has to go somewhere. The pressure, however, is as strong as opening the plumbing to full and more! so vacuum is the right way to use it. What you all so happily forget is the real function of pamp means to pull something. And I currently have everything on EK .
Pull push, you think there's a difference in a settled loop? .

I have run two pumps in tied series and at separate points of the same and separate loops.

All in, tied together with a performance enhancing top is the best.
More head pressure, less fill and empty issues, no config difficulty, they're made into one.
And redundancy.

Plus higher flow rates for less RPM and no ramp issues.
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#15
my_name_is_earl
You people are spoil. Back in the day, we have to pump the tube with our mouth :0
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#16
bogami
That everything is nice but the proportions of the openings are not coordinated. Fiter 10mm to 2x 12.7mm go in out fiter 10mm . The use of two pumps is for safety redundancy, what you gain here on pressure is not worth it .Of course, this is my personal opinion . :)
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#17
goodeedidid
Junk.. like 90% of computer cooling parts on the market.
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