Wednesday, September 9th 2020

AMD Announces a Red October: Zen 3 on October 8, RDNA2 on October 28

AMD CEO Dr Lisa Su on Twitter just announced AMD's next-generation Ryzen processors based on the "Zen 3" microarchitecture, and next-generation Radeon RX graphics cards based on the RDNA2 graphics architecture. AMD is promising a "red" October, with next-generation Ryzen "Zen 3" launch on October 8, and next-generation Radeon RDNA2 launch on October 28. We know for sure that AMD is referring to Ryzen and not EPYC, looking at the Socket AM4 MCM animation being used. The teaser picture for Radeon RDNA2 also hints at a new reference cooling solution with large axial fans.

Update 16:54 UTC: In a separate Tweet, AMD announced the Radeon RX 6000 series graphics cards, based on the "breakthrough" RDNA2 graphics architecture.
Sources: Dr Lisa Su (Twitter), Radeon RX (Twitter)
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141 Comments on AMD Announces a Red October: Zen 3 on October 8, RDNA2 on October 28

#4
Ravenas
Boosting 3950x single core performance while maintaining or increasing 3950x multicore performance will be a great accomplishment.
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#6
Blaazen
I will have nice christmas :-)
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#7
Franzen4Real
taking half day vacation on the 8th to sit at home and mash my refresh button for a 4900. I waited too long to try and get a 3900 around launch and missed the window before e-tailer price gouging took effect for months on end.
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#8
Legacy-ZA
I love how AMD has been very quiet, it most likely signals something great down the line. I really wanted a juicy tidbit to bite on in the meanwhile though. :laugh:
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#9
bonehead123
BRING IT :)

Like NOW, So I can finally know what to expect and how much it's gonna cost me for my next build ......

Red October, yea, I really liked that movie too !

When they flinch, just blow them (nVidiya) to friggin mars Lisa ..:clap:..:D..:peace:
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#10
Xex360
Very interesting to see if they finally beat Intel in gaming and their response to Ampere, I have big hopes that RDNA2 will offer good value and put pressure on nVidia to reduce their prices.
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#11
Imsochobo
Xex360
Very interesting to see if they finally beat Intel in gaming and their response to Ampere, I have big hopes that RDNA2 will offer good value and put pressure on nVidia to reduce their prices.
Math shows they have to fuck up to not be competetive, win I doubt but where they wanna go is the big question.
if they raise power limits to 350W and use hbm they'll take on even 3090 unless there are fundamental scaling issues (which there seems to be no evidence for )
or they just won't do that.. time will tell.
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#12
milewski1015
Franzen4Real
taking half day vacation on the 8th to sit at home and mash my refresh button for a 4900. I waited too long to try and get a 3900 around launch and missed the window before e-tailer price gouging took effect for months on end.
Isn't it likely that these dates are just reveal events?
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#13
dragontamer5788
Legacy-ZA
I love how AMD has been very quiet, it most likely signals something great down the line. I really wanted a juicy tidbit to bite on in the meanwhile though. :laugh:
Nah, Raja just moved to Intel.

It seems like Raja was the hype machine. All of that pre-hype is now happening for Intel Xe instead of Radeon stuffs.
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#14
Tomgang
While I will be getting rtx 3000, I am not into amd gpu.

I am very much interested in Zen 3. Zen 2 got my attention and based on what Intel plan is, zen 3 looks more interesting to me. I seek a cpu with a decent amount of cores and good gaming performance. That is where amd delivers a better solution than Intel does.
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#15
theGryphon
dragontamer5788
Nah, Raja just moved to Intel.

It seems like Raja was the hype machine. All of that pre-hype is now happening for Intel Xe instead of Radeon stuffs.
It's funny because it's true :roll:
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#16
Raendor
bonehead123
BRING IT :)

Like NOW, So I can finally know what to expect and how much it's gonna cost me for my next build ......

Red October, yea, I really liked that movie too !

When they flinch, just blow them (nVidiya) to friggin mars Lisa ..:clap:..:D..:peace:
r u serious? Red October is called so because of the revolution of 1917. The movie was named because of the whole USSR theme, and thus relating to communist revolutio.
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#17
Vayra86
dragontamer5788
Nah, Raja just moved to Intel.

It seems like Raja was the hype machine. All of that pre-hype is now happening for Intel Xe instead of Radeon stuffs.
More like trainwreck machine... the man is now busy torpedoing Intel's Xe brand. Go figure, they are just rebranding their existing crap to Xe, so its already spoiled, and they want to sell the same thing to datacenter/enterprise. Mmmyeah product segmentation pls. If you don't notice the small print besides the logo, it could be anything.

Totally unimpressed with Xe so far.
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#18
jesdals
Im am game for a 10 or 12 core upgrade
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#19
john_
Talking about important dates, Red October and stuff, 28th of October is an important day in Greece.
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#20
dragontamer5788
Xex360
Very interesting to see if they finally beat Intel in gaming
I doubt it. Intel's IPC is very far ahead, and memory-latency is always going to be hampered given AMD's architecture. With Intel's Icelake improving IPC (and finally moving to 10nm), I think Intel is moving faster than AMD can catch up.

AMD has the advantage of a large L3 cache. I think as long as AMD is "close enough" to Intel, the extra cores make more sense for the general purpose customer (since those extra cores mean big wins in Server, 3d modeling, video editing, and other harder compute problems).

I don't think the AMD chip needs to be the best at everything, it should be the best at what it is best at, and just "keep pace" with the Intel chips with regards to single-threaded performance.
and their response to Ampere, I have big hopes that RDNA2 will offer good value and put pressure on nVidia to reduce their prices.
The XBox Series X / PS5 marketing slides have been pretty nice for RDNA2 so far. The question is how much of that translates to the desktop graphics cards. Raytracing + VRS seem to be big features worth hyping (even if NVidia had them on Turing already).
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#21
TheLostSwede
jesdals
Im am game for a 10 or 12 core upgrade
Only? :p
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#22
techguymaxc
So an announcement that there will be an announcement.

Guess AMD doesn't want my money. I sold my 2080 Ti a month ago and I'm ready to buy today.
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#23
jesdals
TheLostSwede
Only? :p
Well its only for gaming, but a Infinity boost beyond 2000MHz and im game :)
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#24
Frick
Fishfaced Nincompoop
dragontamer5788
Intel's IPC is very far ahead
Do you mean the higher clocks? I'm pretty sure AMD caught up with the IPC with Zen2.
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#25
AnarchoPrimitiv
I'm expecting a lot of bad faith arguments to the like of "that's too late, people will just buy Nvidia", when a majority of those people were going to buy Nvidia regardless... At least thats what historical precedent has demonstrated time and time again.... Even when AMD offers a better product and for less, Nvidia still sells more, this was especially the case in the 2000s. It's just a simple fact that thr majority of consumers don't make their purchasing decisions rationally by comparing price to performance as we would like to believe... Nvidia just has this mentia that better specs at a better price seemingly has a very difficult time overcoming. Solely for the sake of competition, I wish it was different, as nothing would be better for consumers than for AMD to grab a big chunk of market share, although I have a small feeling that RDNA2 will be the most competitive generation in years, and I think the commiserate release of the consoles, and the fact that developers will be programming for the consoles first and foremost, will help AMD tremendously this time around.
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