Monday, November 9th 2020

Scalping Locust Swarm Takes Out Ryzen 5000 Inventory, Same Fate Awaits Radeon RX 6000

Scalping bots and overpriced re-sales are the new reality of PC hardware launches. The same swarm that wiped out launch inventories of NVIDIA GeForce RTX 30-series graphics cards, now hit AMD Ryzen 5000 series "Zen 3" processor inventories across the US, reports HotHardware. Bots scalped out Ryzen 5000 series inventories using sophisticated scalping services such as Bounce Alerts, and scalpers quickly put their freshly acquired inventory to re-sale on eBay at exorbitant prices, with the likes of an $800 Ryzen 9 5950X being re-sold at over 50% premiums.

ASUS has warned that a similar fate awaits the first inventories of the Radeon RX 6800 XT and RX 6800 graphics cards, given that AMD has marketed these next-gen GPUs to offer performance rivaling those of the GeForce RTX 3080 and RTX 2080 Ti (in effect RTX 3070), respectively. In the weeks leading up to the Ryzen 5000 market release, AMD issued anti-scalping guidelines to its retail partners, to ensure fair sales of hardware to genuine buyers, and to prevent scalping bots. We now know these guidelines were futile.
Source: HotHardware
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104 Comments on Scalping Locust Swarm Takes Out Ryzen 5000 Inventory, Same Fate Awaits Radeon RX 6000

#1
dinmaster
id like to see ebay ban these off their site along with other similar sites. the fact that you can get a load of money from doing it is what's keeping it going, if you kill the ability to make that money then it will stop. ebay and other sites are enabling this.
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#2
lynx29
dinmaster
id like to see ebay ban these off their site along with other similar sites. the fact that you can get a load of money from doing it is what's keeping it going, if you kill the ability to make that money then it will stop. ebay and other sites are enabling this.
agreed, if intel, nvidia, AMD - required ebay/craigslist the main two players to wait 6 weeks before allowing sales of these chips on their site scalpers would hesitate much more.
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#3
Bones
I already knew it was going to happen.
Saw it going on that very morning and said as much but as for me, not gonna worry about it because I've got what I need now and I'm OK.

Point:
As long as people are stupid enough the feed the swarm it will persist.
Don't by these scalped chips and there will be nothing for the swarm to feed upon.

You feed 'em, they'll be back for more - Guaranteed.
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#4
lemoncarbonate
Unlike USA and Europe, in countries where PC hardware distribution relies on small number of 3rd party companies as distributor, scalping is like done by official distributor and that becomes the official price for the hardware in those countries.

Here, RTX 3080 is ranging from USD 900~1300. Zotac Trinity is the lowest for USD 910, Asus Strix is the most expensive for USD 1340.
RTX 3070 USD 700~800
The RTX 3090 is even crazier, USD 1900 at the lowest, and almost USD 2500 for Asus Strix.

All Ryzen 5000 series are also 100-150 higher than MSRP.

Some countries are paradise for PC enthusiast, while some are just hell.
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#5
Nordic
I would rather the company get the higher margins. If scalpers are making money from this, then maybe launch prices need to be higher. The company can always reduce costs later on.
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#6
Moonglasses
lemoncarbonate
Unlike USA and Europe, in countries where PC hardware distribution relies on small number of 3rd party companies as distributor, scalping is like done by official distributor and that becomes the official price for the hardware in those countries.

Here, RTX 3080 is ranging from USD 900~1300. Zotac Trinity is the lowest for USD 910, Asus Strix is the most expensive for USD 1340.
RTX 3070 USD 700~800
The RTX 3090 is even crazier, USD 1900 at the lowest, and almost USD 2500 for Asus Strix.

All Ryzen 5000 series are also 100-150 higher than MSRP.

Some countries are paradise for PC enthusiast, while some are just hell.
Exactly same situation in Czech Republic, maybe even worse in some cases. I always thought it's a "common" thing outside of US, most of the retailers can say it's just margins and get away with it.
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#7
DeathtoGnomes
dinmaster
id like to see ebay ban these off their site along with other similar sites. the fact that you can get a load of money from doing it is what's keeping it going, if you kill the ability to make that money then it will stop. ebay and other sites are enabling this.
I doubt ebay will do such a thing, but then again you'll have to find proof/links they are doing it to change my mind.
lemoncarbonate
Unlike USA and Europe, in countries where PC hardware distribution relies on small number of 3rd party companies as distributor, scalping is like done by official distributor and that becomes the official price for the hardware in those countries.

Here, RTX 3080 is ranging from USD 900~1300. Zotac Trinity is the lowest for USD 910, Asus Strix is the most expensive for USD 1340.
RTX 3070 USD 700~800
The RTX 3090 is even crazier, USD 1900 at the lowest, and almost USD 2500 for Asus Strix.

All Ryzen 5000 series are also 100-150 higher than MSRP.

Some countries are paradise for PC enthusiast, while some are just hell.
Newegg will jump on this bandwagon and set qouging prices just like they did with the Vega launch, which were as much as $300 over initial retail prices and as a result that pricing became the normal for all etailers.
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#8
ratirt
Norway has the 5000 series CPUs scheduled for December 12th (confirmed stock) so not that bad considering the NV cards are still scheduled for 25th January.
I hope AMD cards will be delivered in a faster manner than 4 months delay.
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#9
Vya Domus
Of course none of this would happen if people wouldn't buy them. So is it really the scalper's fault ?

What can I say, enjoy your 2000$ 3080s and 5950Xs or whatever, morons.
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#10
ratirt
Vya Domus
Of course none of this would happen if people wouldn't buy them. So is it really the scalper's fault ?
Who says it is scalpers? Are you referring to the 5000 series?
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Vya Domus
ratirt
Who says it is scalpers?
Who else would list these on ebay ?
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#12
the54thvoid
Yeah, I never use eBay anymore. In its early days it was fun. But it's been overrun by opportunistic greed. Hate the place.
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#13
watzupken
Sell them on brick and motar stores. No scalping bots. Just line up and buy 1 each.
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#14
ratirt
Vya Domus
Who else would list these on ebay ?
I don't care about ebay. I'm looking to regular retailers. Maybe it is scalpers or maybe not. I couldn't care less.
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#15
R-T-B
ratirt
I don't care about ebay. I'm looking to regular retailers. Maybe it is scalpers or maybe not. I couldn't care less.
If you are selling it above MSRP, you are a scalper. There it is.
watzupken
Sell them on brick and motar stores. No scalping bots. Just line up and buy 1 each.
Covid wants to know your location!
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#16
PooPipeBoy
The 5600X was in stock for a number of hours here in Australia on launch day from the major online retailer PC Case Gear.
Zen 3 processors weren't available from the local store in my own city because the stock shipments didn't arrive until after the weekend.
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#17
kayjay010101
ratirt
Norway has the 5000 series CPUs scheduled for December 12th (confirmed stock) so not that bad considering the NV cards are still scheduled for 25th January.
1. who confirmed that? I could not get a date from Komplett's customer service and all orders say expected the 2nd of December.
2. NVIDIA has shipments before the 25th of January, they're coming in every week.
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#18
geon2k2
Why do you guys care so much about it?
Its not like its a life and death situation to get an rtx3000 or a ryzen5000, now.
If they would do that with the covid-19 vaccine, well, then whole NATO army should jump on them.

But computer parts, let them scalp as much as they want. They have to move them reasonably fast, as next gen is just around the corner.
I was recently looking after a CPU, and noticed that 2600x dropped to like 140 EUR, VAT, shipping included, and it is still on stock in many places.
That is really good value, even compared to 5600x at MSRP price.
At ebay inflated prices of 4-500 USD, which in EU will reach at least 4-500 EUR, oh boy, they can keep it, for as long as they want.

That being said in my country I still see them in stock. Maybe those bots can only work with major us retailers :D
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#19
ZoneDymo
imagine actually rewarding scalpers by buying from them lol
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#20
Chomiq
kayjay010101
2. NVIDIA has shipments before the 25th of January, they're coming in every week.
You're sure they aren't delivering back orders from September?
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#21
kayjay010101
Chomiq
You're sure they aren't delivering back orders from September?
Yeah? Of course orders are going out based on when they were ordered.
I took their comment to mean "nothing is coming in UNTIL the 25th of January", when the reality is that cards are in fact coming in every week. It might be that their order is expected in January, but the wording wasn't clear to state it was just for their order.
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#22
ratirt
kayjay010101
1. who confirmed that? I could not get a date from Komplett's customer service and all orders say expected the 2nd of December.
2. NVIDIA has shipments before the 25th of January, they're coming in every week.
Just go to the site and look at it. Simple. I'm talking about elkjøp not komplett.
kayjay010101
Yeah? Of course orders are going out based on when they were ordered.
I took their comment to mean "nothing is coming in UNTIL the 25th of January", when the reality is that cards are in fact coming in every week. It might be that their order is expected in January, but the wording wasn't clear to state it was just for their order.
We are talking about confirmed stock availability. Not what's coming due to pre-orders.
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#23
Dave65
Vya Domus
Of course none of this would happen if people wouldn't buy them. So is it really the scalper's fault ?

What can I say, enjoy your 2000$ 3080s and 5950Xs or whatever, morons.
Agreed.
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#24
yotano211
dinmaster
id like to see ebay ban these off their site along with other similar sites. the fact that you can get a load of money from doing it is what's keeping it going, if you kill the ability to make that money then it will stop. ebay and other sites are enabling this.
Oh plz, ebay and other sites are not enabling anything, its called human greed.
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#25
kayjay010101
ratirt
Just go to the site and look at it. Simple. I'm talking about elkjøp not komplett.
Okay, so it's Elkjøp's predicted date. Fair enough. That doesn't mean all of Norway gets the procs at that exact date.
ratirt
We are talking about confirmed stock availability. Not what's coming due to pre-orders.
What differentiates these orders from normal orders? The product is officially launched, so they're not pre-orders. They're just on backorder and out of stock. That is not the same as a pre-order.
If the demand wasn't as high, there would be stock.
Still don't understand what significance the 25th of January holds. On that date, does Nvidia think there suddenly will be general availability outpacing the demand? I just don't see what is 'changing' on that date compared to now. That's where my confusion lies.
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