Tuesday, February 9th 2021

SSUPD Reinvents the ITX Case with Meshlicious

SSUPD, the sister brand of LIAN LI and developer of high-end PC cases introduces Meshlicious—a revolutionary ITX PC case built in collaboration with Ncase—that features three full mesh panels and a tempered glass panel to deliver unbeatable cooling while displaying the PC's internals. An optional fourth 1 mm thick steel full mesh panel can be snapped on to encase the PC in full mesh for maximum airflow with a functional, minimalist aesthetic. The Meshlicious is available in matte black and white finishes.

"For years, small form factor cases have been on the market for users looking for low-key, compact PC builds." says Ssu, Founder of SSUPD. "But with the Meshlicious, we aimed to push the boundaries of what's possible in a PC build by surrounding it in mesh. It's aiming to be the top full mesh-capable ITX case, and designed with user-friendliness in mind to the smallest details. With a clean and stripped down look and excellent cooling, DIY enthusiasts can take their PC builds in exciting new directions."
Meshlicious handles raw power and breaths cool320 mm
The Meshlicious supports high-performance water cooling configurations, including CPU air coolers of up to 72 mm, two AIOs (all in one) 120 mm or one AIO of 240 mm or 280 mm. It supports up to a 4 slot GPU card of up to 320 mm for serious gaming or design rendering. The GPU mounting strut is adjustable vertically, allowing for adjustments to the space available for the cables that are connected to the GPU. The motherboard tray functions as a divider splitting the available space between the motherboard and CPU side with the GPU side. The motherboard rear I/O offers easy access to the CPU, and a 90 degree HDMI cable is included for easy connections to the HDMI port. It supports an ATX Power Supply of up to 160 mm, with SFX and SFX-L power supplies also both supported.

Meshlicious is small but versatile
The Meshlicious is small enough to save space while satisfying both gamers and designers in compute-intensive tasks. It can handle serious storage, supporting configurations of up to three 2.5" SSD drives when paired with a vertical GPU. It also supports storage configurations of three 2.5" SSDs, two 3.5" HDDs, or four 2.5" SSDs for users requiring additional storage in their ITX build. The clean minimal design makes room for two USB ports on the front, one USB Type-A and one Type-C. In keeping user-friendliness in mind, it features a no-headache assembly with just ten easy steps.

Meshlicious saves space on desktops
The Meshlicious is small enough to be portable (360 mm x 245 mm x 166.4 mm) and at 14.67 liters it's large enough for components that pack a punch. With a footprint of only 245 mm x 166.4 mm, users can maximize desk or floor space to create a modern, minimalist decor in their workstation or gaming station. With the included glass panel, users can show off their impressive internals, or with the purchase of an additional mesh panel, they can build a full mesh PC case that reaches new levels of cooling.

Pricing and availability
The Meshlicious will be available in matte black for pre-order starting February 9th, 2021, at MSRP $119 USD. Accessories will be available in mid March, including an additional side mesh panel, a tempered glass panel, a HDMI/DisplayPort cable, and a PCIe 4.0/3.0 riser cable. A full mesh Meshlicious case will be released in black and white, in May for $129, with pre-order starting in April.
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26 Comments on SSUPD Reinvents the ITX Case with Meshlicious

#1
F-man4
Why commercial ITX cases are so large?
Order made ITX cases have already achieved 4.0 Liters with dual-slot GPU up to 180mm, CPU heatsink up to 48mm, and Flex-ATX PSU.
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#2
Tsukiyomi91
I rather have this case than the H1 that causes fire or those SFF ITX cases that doesn't fit a 120mm AIO.
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#3
TheLostSwede
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That's a lot of money for very little case...
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#4
ZoneDymo
sooo yeah the gpu cooler straight against the glass suffocating it, good stuff
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#5
aktpu
ZoneDymosooo yeah the gpu cooler straight against the glass suffocating it, good stuff
You can change glass to mesh panel and vice versa
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#6
Caring1
And when your computer dies you can keep a canary in it.
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#7
Valantar
F-man4Why commercial ITX cases are so large?
Order made ITX cases have already achieved 4.0 Liters with dual-slot GPU up to 180mm, CPU heatsink up to 48mm, and Flex-ATX PSU.
Because FlexATX PSUs are incredibly loud, not really available in sufficient wattages for powerful gaming builds, often don't have PCIe power connectors at all, and the ones that deliver sufficient power are typically refurbished server units with terrible reliability? And because building in those tiny cases is a royal pain?

Also, this is meant to be a mainstream SFF case, not the ultimate thing in space efficiency. It even fits (short) ATX PSUs. And up to 4-slot GPUs. Different goals lead to different results. For what it does, it's still very small.

I mean, nobody expects this to compete with those milled aluminium <6l sandwich cases. It's not meant to. And the restrictions those cases bring with them are far too harsh for mainstream adoption to happen. That's not saying that they aren't good - their space efficiency is amazing (though I'd rather use a fanless MeanWell RPS-400-12+ a PicoPSU than a FlexATX unit due to the noise) but they're not suitable for the average PC builder. This case is meant to be "SFF for the people" at an affordable price point, and does that better than previous options (like the NR200). Most people don't have the patience or skills to spend hours measuring and planning component fitment and clearances. And that's fine.
ZoneDymosooo yeah the gpu cooler straight against the glass suffocating it, good stuff
aktpuYou can change glass to mesh panel and vice versa
Yeah, the obvious layout here is 280mm AIO for the CPU with the glass on the CPU side and mesh on the GPU side. Or just get an extra mesh panel ($30). The original design was all mesh, but according to the case designer over on SFF.network, apparently case distributors refuse to touch anything without TG, especially a low volume product, so they had to compromise to ensure decent distribution. Selling add-on mesh panels for a decent price seems like a good compromise to me.
TheLostSwedeThat's a lot of money for very little case...
Is it really though? Most competing cases are easily 2x the price of this. Custom tooling ain't cheap, nor is making side panels from fine metal mesh. It's more expensive than something like the CM NR200, but that's also larger, has worse ventilation, plain metal side panels, and doesn't really give anything back for that extra volume.
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#8
dyonoctis
TheLostSwedeThat's a lot of money for very little case...
Be happy that this isn't a crowdfunded case, otherwise you would have looked at 200$ minimum. But once you receive those case, you realize that there isn't a mainstream brand matching the level of build quality. I used to have a corsair obsidan 250D and it looked cheap compared to my Ncase M1. If that case can match that at that price, it's not a bad deal in ITX land. There isn't a single ITX case @60$ that won't scream cheap/perform badly once you get it.

If you are really budget counscious, ITX is the last thing that you want to do :D

www.caseking.de/dan-cases-a4-sfx-v4.1-mini-itx-gehaeuse-schwarz-gedn-005.html
www.amazon.com/LOUQE-Ghost-Limestone-Mini-ITX-Computer/dp/B088QTJMKW/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=LOUQE&qid=1612859700&sr=8-1
F-man4Why commercial ITX cases are so large?
Order made ITX cases have already achieved 4.0 Liters with dual-slot GPU up to 180mm, CPU heatsink up to 48mm, and Flex-ATX PSU.
Commercial cases makers don't want to take risk with sub 9 liters cases, you are reaching the niche of niche.
ValantarIs it really though? Most competing cases are easily 2x the price of this. Custom tooling ain't cheap, nor is making side panels from fine metal mesh. It's more expensive than something like the CM NR200, but that's also larger, has worse ventilation, plain metal side panels, and doesn't really give anything back for that extra volume.
That's just me, but you do get the option to use a competent air cooler, my recent streak of odd pump failure/annoying pump noise made me get back on air cooling :p. You also avoid the headache coming from using a 4.0 gpu with a 4.0 motherboard but a 3.0 riser (having to configure the UEFI first, the UEFI need to allow you to change the PCIe version, (mine can't) and updating the UEFI can reset that setting). That case looks tempting, you even have a version with a pci-4.0 riser that works (we have yet to see if RTX I/O will work with 3.0, so it's great to have the option) but Iuck isn't on my side
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#9
Valantar
dyonoctisThat's just me, but you do get the option to use a competent air cooler, my recent streak of odd pump failure/annoying pump noise made me get back on air cooling :p. You also avoid the headache coming from using a 4.0 gpu with a 4.0 motherboard but a 3.0 riser (having to configure the UEFI first, the UEFI need to allow you to change the PCIe version, (mine can't) and updating the UEFI can reset that setting). That case looks tempting, you even have a version with a pci-4.0 riser that works (we have yet to see if RTX I/O will work with 3.0, so it's great to have the option) but Iuck isn't on my side
Heh, we've discussed the 3.0 riser issue at great length over in the case's thread on the smallformfactor forums. That's the reason why there's a 4.0 option at all, which is great, and likely what I'll be getting when they become available. I mean, don't get me wrong, the NR200 is great for what it is, but it has some QC issues (have you noticed how most of them have an off-center, skewed logo on the front? It's not like it matters, but that's pretty shoddy) and some odd design oversights (if the side radiator bracket sat slightly higher it would have much better compatibility). It's still a very, very good case for what it does, and it's miles ahead of previous "mainstream ITX" things like Fractal Nano S that is literally 2x the volume of the Meshlicious with no better compatibility. So no complaints, but this is still better in most regards :)

It's too bad you've got bad experiences with AIOs, but given their massive popularity I think you're in a minority there. That doesnt concern me though, as I'm moving over my custom loop with a Nouvolo Aquanaut DDC pump+block, so pump failures won't likely be an issue for me. But then that pump+block combo costs more than most AIOs, let alone adding a radiator and fittings and stuff - I wouldn't be going custom loop for this build unless I already had the parts. But you're right that this is clearly not a CPU air-cooling focused case, and that is indeed a compromise one has to accept when picking something this space optimized.
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#10
aktpu
I think that pricing is ok (if they don't fuck it up in Europe), I just kinda wish that they'd make one bold color option and PCIe-riser options sucks, 4.0 is option only on dark color
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#11
Valantar
aktpuI think that pricing is ok (if they don't fuck it up in Europe), I just kinda wish that they'd make one bold color option and PCIe-riser options sucks, 4.0 is option only on dark color
There are something like 2 actually working models of PCIe 4.0 risers in existence (and even those are kind of dubious in terms of compatibility), so I doubt there is an option for getting a white riser. TBH I've never seen a white PCIe 3.0 riser either, but maybe I haven't been paying attention.
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#12
ShurikN
TheLostSwedeThat's a lot of money for very little case...
Thats dirt cheap in terms of SFF cases.
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#13
aktpu
ValantarThere are something like 2 actually working models of PCIe 4.0 risers in existence (and even those are kind of dubious in terms of compatibility), so I doubt there is an option for getting a white riser. TBH I've never seen a white PCIe 3.0 riser either, but maybe I haven't been paying attention.
I don't care about the riser itself being white, just that you'd be able to buy white case with 4.0 riser. Which currently isn't an option
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#14
Valantar
aktpuI don't care about the riser itself being white, just that you'd be able to buy white case with 4.0 riser. Which currently isn't an option
Ah, okay, I misread you apparently. There'll be an option for that (likely around the second round of sales, expected for early April), but given that the 4.0 riser was a very late addition (it literally got added in the past few weeks), there likely wasn't time to make, assemble and package yet another extra SKU. Originally only 3.0 riser SKUs were planned, then they got a 4.0 riser as an add-on, then managed to squeeze out a 4.0 riser+case SKU in time for launch. I'm impressed they managed this at all, tbh.
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TheLostSwede
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ShurikNThats dirt cheap in terms of SFF cases.
I prefer something a bit more tangible...
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#16
Valantar
TheLostSwedeI prefer something a bit more tangible...
Most actually small (as in: 20 liters or less, much smaller than a mid-tower) SFF cases are $200 or well above (and often made in small volumes with limited availability). Ncase M1, Dan A4, Loque Ghost, Nouvolo Steck, Cerberus, anything from Sliger, etc., etc. Not to mention "premium SFF" cases like the Winter One that is something like $400.

There are some exceptions, like the CM NR200 and some Silverstone designs, though most of those make significant compromises in power and/or cooling.

So for what it delivers - small size, good airflow and cooling, radiator support, even ATX PSU support!, huge GPU support, and a flexible layout allowing for a short GPU + a lot of storage, and including a PCIe riser in the package, with global distribution to boot - this is a great deal.
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#17
dyonoctis
ValantarHeh, we've discussed the 3.0 riser issue at great length over in the case's thread on the smallformfactor forums. That's the reason why there's a 4.0 option at all, which is great, and likely what I'll be getting when they become available. I mean, don't get me wrong, the NR200 is great for what it is, but it has some QC issues (have you noticed how most of them have an off-center, skewed logo on the front? It's not like it matters, but that's pretty shoddy) and some odd design oversights (if the side radiator bracket sat slightly higher it would have much better compatibility). It's still a very, very good case for what it does, and it's miles ahead of previous "mainstream ITX" things like Fractal Nano S that is literally 2x the volume of the Meshlicious with no better compatibility. So no complaints, but this is still better in most regards :)

It's too bad you've got bad experiences with AIOs, but given their massive popularity I think you're in a minority there. That doesnt concern me though, as I'm moving over my custom loop with a Nouvolo Aquanaut DDC pump+block, so pump failures won't likely be an issue for me. But then that pump+block combo costs more than most AIOs, let alone adding a radiator and fittings and stuff - I wouldn't be going custom loop for this build unless I already had the parts. But you're right that this is clearly not a CPU air-cooling focused case, and that is indeed a compromise one has to accept when picking something this space optimized.
I'm aware of that, by default the reset button of my NR200 would trigger if I pushed to much on the USB ports. That's why I hope that the nr200 and the meshilicious(if availabilty worlwide is good) will start a trend. The bitfenix prodigy somewhat started a trend but...it defeated the whole purpose of ITX. Corsair publicy said that they weren't interested into making anything smaller than the 250d/380t (28L !!!, but then they went and made their Corsair One). We had the "console" case that was popular for while but it quickly died since x86 can't be cooled like ARM, and 4 core cpus are low end now.
Phantek, Lian-li and jonsbo are still making some odd choice, Raijintek is getting close, but isn't there yet, Asus doesn't have a clue, Thermaltake...and Silverstone doesn't realise that they just need to make a smaller mesh version of their ft03. (making a small hole into tempered glass doesn't work :mad:)

Building ITX in the current market is really head spinning, there's always a catch weither it's avaiblity, or build quality. Hopefully we'll see more mainstream design trying to impove on Necere/Dan layout.
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#18
Tartaros
TheLostSwedeI prefer something a bit more tangible...
www.caseking.de/dan-cases-a4-sfx-v4.1-mini-itx-gehaeuse-schwarz-gedn-005.html

And that's the baseline price for the small ones with enough capacity to fit an aio and have decent cooling. The htpc types are rounding the 100$ but either are meant for just the mobo and maybe 1 low profile card or matx old 90's pc horizontal case style. And most of them suck balls compared to the atx/matx counterpart for the same price, quality is very much hit or miss.

The mitx gaming rig world is painful.
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#19
Chrispy_
F-man4Why commercial ITX cases are so large?
Order made ITX cases have already achieved 4.0 Liters with dual-slot GPU up to 180mm, CPU heatsink up to 48mm, and Flex-ATX PSU.
Dual-slot GPU less than 180mm? Yuck!
CPU heatsink less than 48mm? Yuck!
Flex-ATX PSU? Yuck.

I mean, if you want to build a turd then sure. These aren't aimed at those people. These cases are aimed at people with big hardware who just don't want more than one PCIe slot.

I agree with you that many mITX cases on the market are needlessly big, but this is clearly aimed to be a riser-based GPU/Motherboard sandwich design and the fact that is requires an mITX board is merely a coincidence. You buy it because you want the footprint/aesthetics/layout of this particular style of case.
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Valantar
Chrispy_Dual-slot GPU less than 180mm? Yuck!
CPU heatsink less than 48mm? Yuck!
Flex-ATX PSU? Yuck.

I mean, if you want to build a turd then sure. These aren't aimed at those people. These cases are aimed at people with big hardware who just don't want more than one PCIe slot.

I agree with you that many mITX cases on the market are needlessly big, but this is clearly aimed to be a riser-based GPU/Motherboard sandwich design and the fact that is requires an mITX board is merely a coincidence. You buy it because you want the footprint/aesthetics/layout of this particular style of case.
Yep, it represents a clear goal towards maximum performance and compatibility with huge GPUs and hot CPUs while still being really small compared to mainstream ITX cases. Which it fulfills entirely, and it would be very difficult to see how it could be smaller without compromising on some if not all of the other points.

Can you still build an absolutely epic <5l PC? Absolutely. But you won't fit a current high-end GPU in it, you'll need to look for exotic power supply solutions, you'll be very limited in CPU cooling, and you'll need to spend a lot of time and effort planning your build. Those aren't sacrifices most people are willing or able to make, so this proposes a much more attractive option to more mainstream-leaning people who still want a small case.
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#21
Chrispy_
ValantarYep, it represents a clear goal towards maximum performance and compatibility with huge GPUs and hot CPUs while still being really small compared to mainstream ITX cases. Which it fulfills entirely, and it would be very difficult to see how it could be smaller without compromising on some if not all of the other points.

Can you still build an absolutely epic <5l PC? Absolutely. But you won't fit a current high-end GPU in it, you'll need to look for exotic power supply solutions, you'll be very limited in CPU cooling, and you'll need to spend a lot of time and effort planning your build. Those aren't sacrifices most people are willing or able to make, so this proposes a much more attractive option to more mainstream-leaning people who still want a small case.
It feels like a <5L 3080/Zen3 PC is going to need a minimum of 750W ATX PSU and at least a 240+120mm radiator. Those two things alone eat up a lot of that 5L budget, and we haven't even started yet! ;)
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#22
Tartaros
Mitx gaming rigs are one of those things you used to go into acrylic because it was near impossible to find anything that fit the vision of something powerful, silent and small. At least there is now some choice, I still have Bitphoenix mitx case around and it was anything but small.
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#23
Valantar
Chrispy_It feels like a <5L 3080/Zen3 PC is going to need a minimum of 750W ATX PSU and at least a 240+120mm radiator. Those two things alone eat up a lot of that 5L budget, and we haven't even started yet! ;)
Nah, you don't need that. Here'sa (currently GPU and CPU-less while waiting for Ampere and Ryzen 5000) S4 Mini (5.0L, though slightly more with the custom front bezel heatsink) with an RTX 2080 Ti and a 3950X. Brickless, using a modified 800W server PSU. Though that's for the ... shall we say certifiably insane? It definitely takes a willingness to sacrifice a lot of expensive hardware to make it work. I don't think most people are willing to CNC mill down their fansto save space :D

That wasn't what I meant though, I was thinking more along the lines of the "relatively easy" <5l builds with some TaoBao sandwich-style FlexATX case and an ITX-sized GPU, which, all things considered, can at least be done with off-the-shelf parts and to me qualifies as an absolutely epic <5l PC (especially with upcoming ITX 3060s). My entire point was that the Meshlicious targets no-compromise performance, which you don't get in that kind of volume unless you're some kind of wizard.
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#24
Gmr_Chick
Caring1And when your computer dies you can keep a canary in it.
@Caring1, I just wanted to let you know you made my day with this comedy gem. Thank you <3 :D
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Chrispy_
ValantarNah, you don't need that. Here'sa (currently GPU and CPU-less while waiting for Ampere and Ryzen 5000) S4 Mini (5.0L, though slightly more with the custom front bezel heatsink) with an RTX 2080 Ti and a 3950X. Brickless, using a modified 800W server PSU. Though that's for the ... shall we say certifiably insane? It definitely takes a willingness to sacrifice a lot of expensive hardware to make it work. I don't think most people are willing to CNC mill down their fansto save space :D

That wasn't what I meant though, I was thinking more along the lines of the "relatively easy" <5l builds with some TaoBao sandwich-style FlexATX case and an ITX-sized GPU, which, all things considered, can at least be done with off-the-shelf parts and to me qualifies as an absolutely epic <5l PC (especially with upcoming ITX 3060s). My entire point was that the Meshlicious targets no-compromise performance, which you don't get in that kind of volume unless you're some kind of wizard.
Insane indeed. That's a rated TDP of 392W at full boost for the CPU+GPU alone, and my rule of thumb with radiators has been to never exceed 250W per fan otherwise you run the risk of coolant boiling :D
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