Thursday, March 11th 2021

NVIDIA Crypto Mining Processor 30HX Card Pictured

The first NVIDIA CMP (Crypto Mining Processor) 30HX card from Gigabyte has been pictured and it closely resembles that of Gigabyte's GTX 1660 SUPER OC 6G. This resemblance makes sense considering the 30HX uses the same TU116-100 GPU found in the GTX 1660 SUPER and is paired with the same 6 GB of GDDR6 memory. The NVIDIA CMP 30HX features a TDP of 125 W and achieves a hash rate of 26 MH/s in Ethereum mining similar to that of the RTX 3060 with it's anti-mining algorithm. The card features no display outputs which limits the cards capabilities once it's no longer profitable to operate. The card should run cool with the dual-fan cooling solution and improved airflow due to the lack of outputs.
Source: Videocardz
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37 Comments on NVIDIA Crypto Mining Processor 30HX Card Pictured

#1
Metroid
Smart miners will only buy this gpu if is less than 150 usd, I wonder how much they will sell this gpu because at moment everything is nonsense. Probably they will shoot for 500 usd.
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#2
trog100
MetroidSmart miners will only buy this gpu if is less than 150 usd, I wonder how much they will sell this gpu because at moment everything is nonsense. Probably they will shoot for 500 usd.
yep it all comes down to what they are gonna end up costing.. they are a bit puny though..

trog
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#3
ixi
For now it looks like the'll release weakest mining gpu first, why...?

They wanna see if someone will buy them at all?
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#4
ratirt
I'm just gonna put this in here if you guys haven't seen it.
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#5
HimymCZe
~26 MH/s @ 126 W ... exactly performance of 1080 ... I wonder how much will nSh!tia charge for RESELL of 5 YEARS old garbage.
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hat
Enthusiast
HimymCZe~26 MH/s @ 126 W ... exactly performance of 1080 ... I wonder how much will nSh!tia charge for RESELL of 5 YEARS old garbage.
Similar to my GTX1070s as well.

Again, this is likely defective chips and/or old stock.
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Legacy-ZA
MetroidSmart miners will only buy this gpu if is less than 150 usd, I wonder how much they will sell this gpu because at moment everything is nonsense. Probably they will shoot for 500 usd.
Smart miners will buy them regardless; there are currently not enough GPUs available and these will generate money for them in the interim. This will help with the stock situation, even though people don't think so. Some demand will have been met and I have read some miners would not mind as much. I think the people complaining, ironically, are gamers that can't mine in their free time without having to buy a mining card.

I also think nVidia is going to refine their mining nerf with all future gaming cards, the current nerf is but a test. This will increase the gap even further between gaming and mining products. That being said, I think mining cards should at least come with 1x HDMi 2.0 (not a 2.1 port for high refresh gaming or DP port), that way you can re-sell them to people that have a media PC, that will run 4k 60fps just fine and has no multiple monitor/display support. The GPU cores aren't going to give the same performance as gaming cards, for the same reason we have different gaming tiered cards, also if the driver isn't optimized for those products it will make it even less attractive for gaming and will at least help prevent some of the e-waste. I would gladly buy such a card second-hand for a Media PC, but NEVER, EVER for a gaming card.
ratirtI'm just gonna put this in here if you guys haven't seen it.
Yeah no, watching that video, I can assure you, he only made that video to protect the future mining farms he has, he won't acknowledge them, but I am pretty sure he has some. Linus is a braggart, perhaps one of the fanboys can coax it out of him?
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#8
ratirt
Legacy-ZAYeah no, watching that video, I can assure you, he only made that video to protect the future mining farms he has, he won't acknowledge them, but I am pretty sure he has some. Linus is a braggart, perhaps one of the fanboys can coax it out of him?
And you have seen his mining farms? I sincerely haven't. What I can assure you about is, he had spoken few times about mining and he said he has no mining farms nor planing to have any. Why would he? He's got a lot of cash flowing through the LTT store anyway.
BTW. Not sure how would this video help to protect mining farms if he had any anyway.
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#9
micropage7
interesting how if we can make it like co processor for heavy task like 3d rendering or video editor or photo editing better
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#12
nguyen
ratirtYes and I hope AMD gets slammed for this as well if released.
What's your point? Because AMD and NV are doing this, it's good? or since AMD is also going to do this, NV should be disregarded?
Nvidia is using discontinued 12nm fab for most of their CMP, which won't really affect Ampere availability.
AMD is using 7nm fab for their CMP, which 100% eat into their RDNA2 chip availability.
So yeah, Nvidia is greedy while AMD is what? Greedy and incompetent?

Also Dave2D called out the fallacy in LTT's logics
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#13
stimpy88
What a load of crap. My 2070 gets 43Mh/s.

This will only be a good thing if it's cheap, which as it's nGreedia, it won't be.
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#14
Chomiq
nguyenNvidia is using discontinued 12nm fab for most of their CMP, which won't really affect Ampere availability.
AMD is using 7nm fab for their CMP, which 100% eat into their RDNA2 chip availability.
So yeah, Nvidia is greedy while AMD is what? Greedy and incompetent?

Also Dave2D called out the fallacy in LTT's logics
Lol @ bringing up Dave2D, even bigger schill than Linus.
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#15
nguyen
ChomiqLol @ bringing up Dave2D, even bigger schill than Linus.
You mean not every tech reviewer is a shill? oh boy how are they gonna make their ends meet? :roll:
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#16
Chomiq
nguyenYou mean not every tech reviewer is a shill? oh boy how are they gonna make their ends meet? :roll:
Who's calling Dave2D tech "reviewer"? The guy is an overrated youtube tech influencer focused on selling you the newest smartphone/laptop.
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#17
nguyen
ChomiqWho's calling Dave2D tech "reviewer"? The guy is an overrated youtube tech influencer focused on selling you the newest smartphone/laptop.
I can say the same thing about every tech reviewer whose opinion I don't agree with there ;).

How about some less known tech channel :)

Listen to his opinion at the 11:00 minute in
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#18
TheUn4seen
They are, at best, a supplemental thing which certainly will not help with supply shortages for consumer GPUs. It's not like miners will get a few of those and say "okay, that's enough, I only needed this amount of hashrate". No, miners will get anything and everything which can potentially generate income. They will get the HX if it makes sense, but it will not decrease the number of consumer cards they will buy. It's about more income for the manufacturer, not about more cards for gamers.

Those cards will also end up on a landfill as soon as they are not viable for cryptocurrencies, even if otherwise fully functional. I'm not really an eco-terrorist type, but this is stupid wastefulness.
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#19
ratirt
nguyenNvidia is using discontinued 12nm fab for most of their CMP, which won't really affect Ampere availability.
AMD is using 7nm fab for their CMP, which 100% eat into their RDNA2 chip availability.
So yeah, Nvidia is greedy while AMD is what? Greedy and incompetent?

Also Dave2D called out the fallacy in LTT's logics
Yeah discontinued sure but still manufactured at TSMC if I recall correctly. The wafer capacities are limited so if you consider throwing 12nm chips for TSMC (a large chunk of the capacity for sure considering how many cards miners need) to manufacture, there has to be a lower production of chips for other markets. It won't be workstation cards for sure due to profits so gaming it is. Also, as I recall, NV is moving for TSMC in 2021 with Ampere or has that been dropped? If it hasn't been dropped, then yeah, the NV cards will suffer. If it has been dropped then it will definitely impact AMDs chips.
There is also second hand GPUs market that this mining card impact. Absolutely no use of these cards for gamers down the line.

I won't call anyone a shill or whatever. Either Dave2D or Linus or any other youtuber. Maybe Linus is a stooge to you and others but either way I side with Linus on this one.
We will see how things develop. It is also weird, when mining cards are being considered gaming cards in the quarterly reports.
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#20
nguyen
ratirtYeah discontinued sure but still manufactured at TSMC if I recall correctly. The wafer capacities are limited so if you consider throwing 12nm chips for TSMC (a large chunk of the capacity for sure considering how many cards miners need) to manufacture, there has to be a lower production of chips for other markets. It won't be workstation cards for sure due to profits so gaming it is. Also, as I recall, NV is moving for TSMC in 2021 with Ampere or has that been dropped? If it hasn't been dropped, then yeah, the NV cards will suffer. If it has been dropped then it will definitely impact AMDs chips.
There is also second hand GPUs market that this mining card impact. Absolutely no use of these cards for gamers down the line.

I won't call anyone a shill or whatever. Either Dave2D or Linus or any other youtuber. Maybe Linus is a shill to you and others but either way I side with Linus on this one.
We will see how things develop. It is also weird, when mining cards are being considered gaming cards in the quarterly reports.
huh? you sound very confused. You can't substitute TSMC 12nm wafers for Samsung 8nm wafers or vice versa, it's not how that works.
Nvidia is restarting their old Turing production line over at TSMC to make these CMP, it definitely does not affecting Ampere production line over at Samsung. Chip manufacturers don't share their factories you know :roll: , not to mention TSMC is Taiwan based and Samsung is S. Korea based.

You know which products are produced at the same factory though? RDNA1 and RDNA2 GPU, and AMD will be reducing their RDNA2 capacity to make RDNA1 CMP, which is more profitable to AMD because of its smaller size.
TheUn4seenThey are, at best, a supplemental thing which certainly will not help with supply shortages for consumer GPUs. It's not like miners will get a few of those and say "okay, that's enough, I only needed this amount of hashrate". No, miners will get anything and everything which can potentially generate income. They will get the HX if it makes sense, but it will not decrease the number of consumer cards they will buy. It's about more income for the manufacturer, not about more cards for gamers.

Those cards will also end up on a landfill as soon as they are not viable for cryptocurrencies, even if otherwise fully functional. I'm not really an eco-terrorist type, but this is stupid wastefulness.
If miners can sell their used GPU for good amount of money, they will just use the money to gobble up new GPU anyways. I don't feel like buying used goods for 1/2 the price 2 years after launch without any warranty that can break at any moment because I can't afford inflated new GPU, do you?
Less money going to miners --> less total GPU demand --> less e-waste.
Yes Nvidia will probably make less money by alienating miners, but Nvidia cash flow will be much more stable down the line with gamers as their primary customers. With every boom there is a bust, and Nvidia probably learned its lesson

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#21
Chomiq
Those CMP's use GDDR6 memory and other components that just like wafers have finite supply. And let's not pretend that Nvidia cares about gamers. Nvidia only cares about "gamers" that are responsible for their record profits and those "gamers" buy GPU's by truckloads but it doesn't matter because shareholders are happy by the end of the quarter. Making CMP cards won't "alienate" miners. They'll just switch to different coin or will eventually find a way to bypass this limitation.
Same with AMD, the only thing they care about now is satisfying Sony and MS supply demands and that's because they have contracts with them on delivering enough chips to keep the production going. RDNA2 GPU's are low priority for them and it shows when you compare the number of units available at retail. Not to mention the whole "AMD for blockchain" hype machine.

Either way gamers will be f#cked by GPU vendors because once this bubble bursts they'll do a switcheroo on us and shift price brackets by another $50 or so which we will accept because paying $50 more sure beats paying twice the retail price during mining boom.
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#22
TheUn4seen
nguyenIf miners can sell their used GPU for good amount of money, they will just use the money to gobble up new GPU anyways. I don't feel like buying used goods for 1/2 the price 2 years after launch without any warranty that can break at any moment because I can't afford inflated new GPU, do you?
Less money going to miners --> less total GPU demand --> less e-waste.
Yes Nvidia will probably make less money by alienating miners, but Nvidia cash flow will be much more stable down the line with gamers as their primary customers. With every boom there is a bust, and Nvidia probably learned its lesson
Gamers will buy anything at this point, I see a lot of old GPUs selling like candy. In January I sold my old 1080ti for more than I paid several years ago when it was new, and I see them going even higher right now. I'm fairly sure that when all those 3080s from miners will hit the market, they will sell instantly, warranty or not.
Miners will get their money, don't worry. HX cards will not affect that at all, they will just generate more waste, and will not positively affect GPU demand. In fact, they will limit supply for gamers - even if nVidia really is using old production lines for them, they still share a lot of components which are in limited supply right now.
That's how corporations work. They sell a lot of products right now so the shareholders are happy. Next year the company will have to mitigate the problem of used cards cannibalizing the 40x0 series so the shareholders will be happy again. The cycle of life continues.
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#23
nguyen
ChomiqThose CMP's use GDDR6 memory and other components that just like wafers have finite supply. And let's not pretend that Nvidia cares about gamers. Nvidia only cares about "gamers" that are responsible for their record profits and those "gamers" buy GPU's by truckloads but it doesn't matter because shareholders are happy by the end of the quarter. Making CMP cards won't "alienate" miners. They'll just switch to different coin or will eventually find a way to bypass this limitation.
Same with AMD, the only thing they care about now is satisfying Sony and MS supply demands and that's because they have contracts with them on delivering enough chips to keep the production going. RDNA2 GPU's are low priority for them and it shows when you compare the number of units available at retail. Not to mention the whole "AMD for blockchain" hype machine.

Either way gamers will be f#cked by GPU vendors because once this bubble bursts they'll do a switcheroo on us and shift price brackets by another $50 or so which we will accept because paying $50 more sure beats paying twice the retail price during mining boom.
Well over at mindfactory I can see ton of 3060 being sold already, at very inflated prices but there are stock available, which I can't say the same for any other GPU, that means Nvidia's strategy to get gaming GPU into the hand of gamers kinda work doesn't it :D.

Every corporation is greedy AF (welcome to capitalism), but if their goal aligns with yours, why do you care (well unless you are crypto miner)? Nvidia can sell 100% of their chips right now either way, they would rather have gamers as their customers, that way their business can grow more healthier than selling to miners won't it?
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#24
Chomiq
nguyenWell over at mindfactory I can see ton of 3060 being sold already, at very inflated prices but there are stock available, which I can't say the same for any other GPU, that means Nvidia's strategy to get gaming GPU into the hand of gamers kinda work doesn't it :D.

Every corporation is greedy AF (welcome to capitalism), but if their goal aligns with yours, why do you care (well unless you are crypto miner)? Nvidia can sell 100% of their chips right now either way, they would rather have gamers as their customers, that way their business can grow more healthier than selling to miners won't it?
Praise the lord, we can finally buy "$330" gpu for €650+.
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#25
nguyen
ChomiqPraise the lord, we can finally buy "$330" gpu for €650+.
MF sold like 1000+ of them already, so yeah, demands are quite high, Germany has been in lockdown for 4 months already
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