Monday, March 15th 2021

NVIDIA RTX 3060 Hashrate Limiter Defeated, GeForce 470.05 Driver Unlocks Full Mining Performance

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 hash-rate limiter has been defeated, by the company itself, through a driver update. The RTX 3060 was announced by NVIDIA to be meant purely for gamers as it came with measures that make them unviable for mining. The card purportedly had a hash-rate limiter that detected workloads from typical crypto-currency mining algorithms, and spooled down GPU clock speeds, halving the mining efficiency of the card. The idea was to sour the milk for miners, so there could be inventory for gamers. PC Watch reports that the latest GeForce 470.05 drivers distributed by NVIDIA to developers through the Windows Insider Program defeats the hash-rate limiter, significantly improving mining performance of the RTX 3060. With this driver out in the open, miners are sure to pick up RTX 3060 cards to go with it; and simply ignore all future driver updates through NVIDIA's official driver channel.

HardwareLuxx.de and ComputerBase have each independently verified that GeForce 470.05 drivers "restore" mining performance on RTX 3060 cards back to levels their hardware is capable of—roughly matching that of the RTX 2070 Super. This development confirms that the hash-rate limiter was purely driver based, and NVIDIA hoped to artificially throttle mining performance of RTX 3060 cards by simply adding this limiter to all compatible versions of GeForce drivers since the card's launch; but those behind the 470.05 special drivers probably forgot to implement it. Probably because it is based on a different branch of the source code, which is developed in parallel. NVIDIA earlier claimed that the hash-rate limited is a much more sophisticated mechanism involving a "secure handshake between the driver and system-firmware that prevents tampering." So much for that.
Sources: PC Watch, HardwareLuxx.de, ComputerBase.de, VideoCardz
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111 Comments on NVIDIA RTX 3060 Hashrate Limiter Defeated, GeForce 470.05 Driver Unlocks Full Mining Performance

#76
Caring1
xorbe
According to reddit posts, it only mines full speed in a primary slot, only 1 mines full speed per system, and doesn't mine full speed if using a riser.
If true this is great news for Gamers that like to mine too.
Miners on the other hand would need multiple systems to be able to mine with multiple cards.
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#77
bug
Nvidia fending off miners:
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#78
R-T-B
xorbe
and doesn't mine full speed if using a riser.
How on earth could the driver know if you are using a riser?

Smells fishy.
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#79
xorbe
R-T-B
How on earth could the driver know if you are using a riser?

Smells fishy.
I don't know enough about board hw capabilities to comment on that. I could postulate ideas, but it would just be wags.
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#80
R-T-B
xorbe
I don't know enough about board hw capabilities to comment on that. I could postulate ideas, but it would just be wags.
I do though. It basically can't. A link is a link.
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#81
InVasMani
Rage Set
While I don't condone mining, based off your assertion, when I game with my gpu, it's zero emissions? What about video editing?
Except I don't know of any game players individually running dozens or even hundreds of the highest end GPU's they can acquire running them 24/7 for 365 days a year. Not even legitimate business LAN centers operate like that in fact. In fact miner's have converted LAN centers into mining rig centers and I'm absolutely positive are consuming more electricity than they were prior by a large degree. Keep trying to pretend mining is great. I could game my entire lifetime and not consume the waste energy a individual miner has in 6 months with some of the mining farms they operate. That's especially true as gaming hardware performance and efficiency improves over time, but these miner's are in bum rush to mining their pyramid fantasy coins that become harder and harder to mine along with and more earth damning over time.

It doesn't matter if the tech behind it mining the phony coins improves the blockchain human extinction disease algorithm itself will make them a even more power hungry vampire to the planet consuming all the hardware resources and power driving it along the way until we're in the apocylpse and fall of soceity brought down upon us all by miners. It won't stop unless it's outlawed and if it continues undeterred they'll strip mine every planet resource to produce new GPU's to mine the next lottery fantasy coin at a higher hash rate than before because it's needed if they are to keep pace with the non linear algorithm black hole power vacuum that is the mining greed for speed hot pursuit high stakes.
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#82
TheoneandonlyMrK
R-T-B
I do though. It basically can't. A link is a link.
I suppose it would be limited to pciex3x1 over a mining riser so it could detect that difficulty.
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#83
lexluthermiester
Gralorn
I’m not surprised.
Exactly. It is unfortunate but predicable.
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#84
Darmok N Jalad
We all got dumped at the dance for the guy who brought the alcohol.
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#85
hat
Enthusiast
"Oops". Oh well, I never liked the idea anyway.
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#86
Darmok N Jalad
InVasMani
Except I don't know of any game players individually running dozens or even hundreds of the highest end GPU's they can acquire running them 24/7 for 365 days a year. Not even legitimate business LAN centers operate like that in fact. In fact miner's have converted LAN centers into mining rig centers and I'm absolutely positive are consuming more electricity than they were prior by a large degree. Keep trying to pretend mining is great. I could game my entire lifetime and not consume the waste energy a individual miner has in 6 months with some of the mining farms they operate. That's especially true as gaming hardware performance and efficiency improves over time, but these miner's are in bum rush to mining their pyramid fantasy coins that become harder and harder to mine along with and more earth damning over time.

It doesn't matter if the tech behind it mining the phony coins improves the blockchain human extinction disease algorithm itself will make them a even more power hungry vampire to the planet consuming all the hardware resources and power driving it along the way until we're in the apocylpse and fall of soceity brought down upon us all by miners. It won't stop unless it's outlawed and if it continues undeterred they'll strip mine every planet resource to produce new GPU's to mine the next lottery fantasy coin at a higher hash rate than before because it's needed if they are to keep pace with the non linear algorithm black hole power vacuum that is the mining greed for speed hot pursuit high stakes.
I wonder if this also puts a strain on local law enforcement? Now they can't tell who's growing pot in the basement and who is just mining.
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#87
Prima.Vera
nGreedia still thinks we are suckers or stupid or what??
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#88
nBagasW
Prima.Vera
nGreedia still thinks we are suckers or stupid or what??
They don't care about our intelligence. What they really care and know for sure is their product will still sell well regardless.
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#89
Caring1
Title is click bait, the hash rate limiter wasn't beaten, it was simply replaced by a new driver with different limits.
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#90
R-T-B
Caring1
Title is click bait, the hash rate limiter wasn't beaten, it was simply replaced by a new driver with different limits.
What is the end effect, friend?
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#91
Zubasa
Prima.Vera
nGreedia still thinks we are suckers or stupid or what??
Given some users are already on Copium right off the first page, nVidia got that right. :laugh:
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#92
Legacy-ZA
Bones
Looks like the drivers have been pulled, I'm there ATM and the latest shown is ver 461.72.
This is the internet, where once live, the damage is done, I can already see the countless miners that will host it for download.
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#93
Chomiq
Meanwhile at mindfactory (which had about 1000+ units just recently):
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#94
Ibotibo01
Nvidia choose miners over gamers and developers. Thus, we will show what gamers and developers' power is in the next line-up of Nvidia. I like the Jeff Bezos's thought about customers' power on the internet,
" If you make customers unhappy in the physical world, they might each tell 6 friends. If you make customers unhappy on the Internet, they can each tell 6,000 friends. "

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#95
birdie
Ibotibo01
Nvidia choose miners over gamers and developers. Thus, we will show what gamers and developers' power is in the next line-up of Nvidia. I like the Jeff Bezos's thought about customers' power on the internet,
" If you make customers unhappy in the physical world, they might each tell 6 friends. If you make customers unhappy on the Internet, they can each tell 6,000 friends. "


Let me break it to you: store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/videocard/

AMD fans for some reasons believe the world revolves around them and their tirades in the comments sections of multiple websites mean anything. They mostly mean nothing.
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#96
InVasMani
Darmok N Jalad
I wonder if this also puts a strain on local law enforcement? Now they can't tell who's growing pot in the basement and who is just mining.
That's more beneficial than bitcoin at least it provides some sanity value or reefer madness whichever you wish to believe.
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#97
CandymanGR
Darmok N Jalad
I wonder if this also puts a strain on local law enforcement? Now they can't tell who's growing pot in the basement and who is just mining.
Actually you can use LED UV lamps now, which they consume very little power and have a similar effect as the sun (to the plant). Actually Ultra Violet Rays make the plant to produce a higher concentration of the substance. Just fyi.
* Sorry for the off topic.
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#98
Ibotibo01
birdie
Let me break it to you: store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/videocard/

AMD fans for some reasons believe the world revolves around them and their tirades in the comments sections of multiple websites mean anything. They mostly mean nothing.
OK boomer, I'm not a fanboy of neither companies. Just don't want to buy overpriced products. Competition is good for every consumer but if Nvidia become the one GPU producer, you won't be able to buy RTX XX70-80. AMD needs DLSS or something Nvidia does not have. Consumers buy Nvidia because of the marketing strategy and technology. Now, Nvidia and AMD think only their money, how can they increase? Mining is free estate for them but if miners doesn't want to do mining and cryptocurrencies' values decrease, Nvidia and AMD will focus on the gaming sector and say sorry for gamers but if gamers choose Intel, AMD and Nvidia will make better GPUs, maybe mining limiters will apply every GPUs. Also RTX 3060's performance is really bad(RTX 2060S+5%) for $329 but RTX 3060 Ti is too powerful for RTX 3060 and only for $70. Maybe RTX 3050 will be same performance with GTX 1060 6GB. If AMD make good products which include better Ray Tracing performance and DLSS performance than Nvidia's, i will buy AMD. Also, RTX 4000 series would be better than the RTX 3000 series in price/performance if you don't buy overpriced GPUs.




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#100
DeathtoGnomes
R-T-B
What is the end effect, friend?
two dwarves walk into a bar?
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