Tuesday, January 4th 2022

AMD Announces 6nm Radeon RX 6500 XT and Radeon RX 6400 Graphics Cards at CES 2022

AMD today via its CES livestream announced a couple of new graphics cards to be added to its desktop Radeon lineup. The Radeon RX 6500 XT and RX 6400 slot in just below the already-released RX 6600 graphics card and its virtual MSRP of $329, and bring RDNA2 and ray tracing support to a much more affordable $199 MSRP. Both cards are manufactured in TSMC's 6 nm process, bringing about a reduction in die area and improved power consumption characteristics. According to AMD, these target high settings AAA and eSports gaming on 1080p resolution, and would be most interesting for gamers still packing a GeForce GTX 1650 or Radeon RX 470 graphics card (or lower performance options). This is also made possible on account of AMD's Fidelity FX Super Resolution (FSR) and the newly-announced RSR, with these image upscaling technologies severely increasing pure performance output of these relatively small discrete GPUs.

The RX 6500 XT with its $199 price tag has been confirmed for a January 19th release via AIB partner cards only (of which the company showed as many as 14 different models from a range of partners, which you can see after the break). For $199, the RX 6500 XT offers an exact halving of the RX 6600 XT, packing 16 RDNA2 CUs, 4 GB of GDDR6 RAM, a 2,610 MHz game clock, and a 2,815 MHz boosted clock, while drawing 107 W of power. The 4 GB memory pool may seem limiting, but may be a smart decision from AMD, effectively cutting off these cards from Ethereum mining workloads (these require 8 GB of VRAM). And 16 RDNA2 CUs gives us 1,024 shading units and only 16 RT cores: it's likely the card would run out of shader performance before it would be able to properly take advantage of a larger VRAM pool. No word yet on when should we expect the RX 6400.
The usage of a more advanced 6 nm manufacturing process in these graphics cards could mean that refreshes of AMD's RX 6000 series may be coming to the technology eventually. It may also indicate that AMD chose to manufacture these relatively small and inexpensive graphics cards first so as to aid TSMC in improving yields and to better understand what challenges the new process brings. At the same time, AMD is now effectively able to distribute GPUs across two distinct semiconductor manufacturing nodes, which should have a respectable impact on how many GPUs AMD can deliver per quarter, thus allowing for a hypothetical easing of sorts on the demand side. Perhaps AMD is now planning on staggering updates for 6 nm of its already-released RX 6000 series cards.

All in all, there are 14 RX 6500 XT models being launched on January 19th, from partner brands such as AsRock, ASUS, Biostar, Gigabyte, MSI, PowerColor, Sapphire, Yeston, and XFX. Pictures of each of these graphics cards follow.
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23 Comments on AMD Announces 6nm Radeon RX 6500 XT and Radeon RX 6400 Graphics Cards at CES 2022

#1
Dr. Dro
It is a shame, the 6600 XT should be this price... but alas, I hope availability is alright. Wouldn't mind picking one of these up myself to finally experience what RDNA has to offer.
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#2
pavle
Dr. DroIt is a shame, the 6600 XT should be this price... but alas, I hope availability is alright. Wouldn't mind picking one of these up myself to finally experience what RDNA has to offer.
Don't worry, 16MB of cache isn't even enough for 1024x768 with 32-bit textures. :D

I just had to - I remember when I had Matrox G400 with 16MB RAM, pretty pictures, but too little for 32-bit 1024x768.
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#3
Arjai
Methinks that G400 comparison is funny. Pretty damn sure the Infinity Cache ain't your G400 Cache, from 1999!

So, yea, let's not jump the Shark, eh?

Judgement should be saved until testing has been released, from all the folks out there, just clambering at the bit, to do so. (run-on sentence, anyone?)

:lovetpu:
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#4
AusWolf
If the 6400 comes at a reasonable price (and availability) and in low profile form factor, I'll get one for my HTPC just out of curiosity. I miss the days when low spec gaming was a thing.
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#5
kruk
AusWolfIf the 6400 comes at a reasonable price (and availability) and in low profile form factor, I'll get one for my HTPC just out of curiosity. I miss the days when low spec gaming was a thing.
It's seems it's OEM only and it has the same decode/encode features missing as it's larger brother (source):




@Raevenlord
No word yet on when should we expect the RX 6400
6400 also seems to launch on 19.1.2022 (source)
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#6
AusWolf
krukIt's seems it's OEM only and it has the same decode/encode features missing as it's larger brother (source):




@Raevenlord


6400 also seems to launch on 19.1.2022 (source)
It doesn't say that it's OEM only. I hope it's not. Shame about the decode, though. It seems, AMD is missing out on the only viable market for this card.
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#7
mechtech
"The RX 6500 XT with its $199 price tag has been confirmed for a January 19th "

See how it compares to the old RX460, in price, performance and availability.
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#8
pavle
mechtech"The RX 6500 XT with its $199 price tag has been confirmed for a January 19th "

See how it compares to the old RX460, in price, performance and availability.
It's got 1024 shaders and ~twice the clock speed, so twice the speed. Plus optimisations in shader layout 32-wide instead of 64... Even better.
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#9
mechtech
pavleIt's got 1024 shaders and ~twice the clock speed, so twice the speed. Plus optimisations in shader layout 32-wide instead of 64... Even better.
Performance should be at least 2x, it's availability and actual cost I wonder about.
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#10
arni-gx
so, this new radeon rx 6500xt 4gb and rx 6400 4gb will be going versus nvidia new rtx 3050 8gb....??......... cool.......
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#11
F-man4
I want a bunch of RX6400 since there are too few 1-slot LP GPUs.

BTW GTX1650 is out of my choice because my emulator lags on all NV & Intel GPUs.
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#12
ixi
arni-gxso, this new radeon rx 6500xt 4gb and rx 6400 4gb will be going versus nvidia new rtx 3050 4gb....??......... cool.......
Real Truck Xenon comes with 8 tires not 4.
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#13
InVasMani
If they could make a card like RX 6500XT/6400 and add a pair of M.2 slots on the backside that could be use for direct storage directly on the GPU's and also had CF support on the cards they would probably actually be a fair bit more appealing. Even doing the former wouldn't be bad. They have so much excess PCIE bandwidth on that card slot anyway for that level of GPU card.
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#14
Steevo
arni-gxso, this new radeon rx 6500xt 4gb and rx 6400 4gb will be going versus nvidia new rtx 3050 8gb....??......... cool.......
I bet 8GB does nothing more for a card like this, between the small infinity cache, high clock speed there will probably be few games that could actually make any use of more than 4GB of Vmem at the resolution this card can handle.

Smart Access Memory, able to move more data to Vmem faster.
devblogs.microsoft.com/directx/directstorage-is-coming-to-pc/
Direct storage too
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#15
seth1911
2016
GTX 1050TI 4GB 200$

2022
RX 6500 4GB 200$

:shadedshu: :shadedshu: :shadedshu: :shadedshu:
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#16
ixi
seth19112016
GTX 1050TI 4GB 200$

2022
RX 6500 4GB 200$

:shadedshu: :shadedshu: :shadedshu: :shadedshu:
What are you trying to say? 4GB ram, price, performance is bad? rx 6500 will eat 1050 ti with a butter knife :D
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#17
seth1911
yeah and in Games with great textures a HD 7970 6GB from 2012 will fck this Card ten years later.

The enemy for the 6500 is not the 6 year old 1050ti it its the 3050 with 8GB (or even a 1660TI with 6GB) :laugh:
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#18
ixi
seth1911yeah and in Games with great textures a HD 7970 6GB from 2012 will fck this Card ten years later.

The enemy for the 6500 is not the 6 year old 1050ti it its the 3050 with 8GB (or even a 1660TI with 6GB) :laugh:
Ohh boy another vram wannaby. Buy then 6600 or rtx 3050 :). 3050 is only 50 bucks more. And you'll get 8GB vram powaaa, not to mention gpu probably gonna be snacked by miners, haha.

Not to mention that 7970 was high-end then and it has 3GB version too, soo useless comparison. Look at power draw, efficienty etc. 6500 will flip 7970 like little girl.
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#19
kruk
AusWolfShame about the decode, though. It seems, AMD is missing out on the only viable market for this card.
It looks more and more that this is a mobile first GPU that was meant to be paired with an APU which has decode/encode already built in. It's available for the desktop DIY only because they can sell them for a good margin in the current market ...
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#20
Dr. Dro
ixiOhh boy another vram wannaby. Buy then 6600 or rtx 3050 :). 3050 is only 50 bucks more. And you'll get 8GB vram powaaa, not to mention gpu probably gonna be snacked by miners, haha.

Not to mention that 7970 was high-end then and it has 3GB version too, soo useless comparison. Look at power draw, efficienty etc. 6500 will flip 7970 like little girl.
Let's be real, it was not very long ago that AMD was roasting NVIDIA for daring to release 4-6 GB video cards in the entry and performance segments, and it is the same AMD that boasted about the R9 Fury X's 4 GB of HBM being able to go on equal footing with Titan X Maxwell's 12 GB of GDDR5. Marketing and brand loyalty can be a funny thing, down the road they will come bite you where the sun don't shine :D

See it from the perspective of an RTX 3090 owner (meaning: I have more VRAM than what I know what to do with), I agree that the 4 GB of memory isn't a deal breaker for a GPU such as the RX 6500 XT, it's the 64-bit memory bus that concerns me. Infinity Cache or not, I have more than a few reasons to believe that this GPU will suck at both AA and texture intensive games, and any resolution above 1080p (I actually have 1600x900 for optimal performance on this thing in mind) is gonna be flat out hostile to it. I'm waiting for the reviews, if the price is not scalped in my country, I am gonna pick one up myself.
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#21
watzupken
AusWolfIf the 6400 comes at a reasonable price (and availability) and in low profile form factor, I'll get one for my HTPC just out of curiosity. I miss the days when low spec gaming was a thing.
Don't waste your money. While the card is compact and seems to fit a HTPC, it does not come with updated video decoder, i.e. AV1. This is a miserable omission from AMD. In my opinion, if the card is sold anything above its MSRP, it is not worth getting.
1. Specs are way too gimped for any decent gaming. It may run ok for now, but the runway is likely very limited. People using motherboards with PCI-E 3.0 should steer clear of this.
2. Lack of VRAM which impacts gaming performance also limits miners' interest.
3. Omission of up to date video decoder limits its use for HTPC. It can still run, but you CPU is going to work harder if you try and play a show with AV1 codec.
4. If price is too high (which I believe will be higher than MSRP), then if I need a GPU just for working with multiple displays, iGPU and cheap GT 1030 can also do the same. So why pay more?
All in all, I don't know who is the product for. AMD says this is for gamers and they "deliberately" gimped the card to make it unattractive for miners. The truth is the card is likely unattractive for anyone, and especially so if these are sold over their MSRP.

And by the way, I feel the RX 6800 series was great after using it for some time. But anything that came after the RX 6800 series are quite lacklustre in my opinion. This RX 6500/6400 is the ultimate gimped GPU. In 2022, we find 64 bit memory bus, PCI-E x4 connection, outdated video decoder, etc. The assumption is that the 16MB "Infinity" cache is sufficient to keep up with the expected resolution and graphic quality. At least for now or in select games where AMD have selected. But once that cache is insufficient, performance will be strangled by the limited memory bandwidth.
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#22
seth1911
Im sure the 6500 is a Notebook Chip, Amd saw they can make even a much higher profit than sold it to OEM for Notebooks. :laugh:
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#23
watzupken
seth1911Im sure the 6500 is a Notebook Chip, Amd saw they can make even a much higher profit than sold it to OEM for Notebooks. :laugh:
I believe most of the cards will be destined for OEM, i.e. prebuild computers and laptops. After all, most people buying prebuild computers, e.g. from Lenovo, aren't very tech savvy. This can be marketed as a gaming GPU, and they will buy it. For me, I will certainly steer clear of this GPU myself.
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