Thursday, January 6th 2022
AMD Socket AM5 a "Long-lived Platform": CEO
AMD is designing its upcoming Socket AM5 platform to be a "long-lived platform," not unlike AM4. CEO Dr Lisa Su, responding to a question on the longevity of AM5, by Paul Alcorn from Tom's Hardware, said that she's very happy with AM4 being the company's long-lived desktop socket; and while she doesn't have an exact number of years to share, one could expect AM5 to be a "long-lived platform" of a similar kind.
AMD Socket AM4 was debuted alongside the company's very first Ryzen processors, in March 2017. It has remained AMD's mainstream desktop socket for close to five years; and AMD continues to launch new products for the socket. Even in 2022, the company is expected to give the socket its swansong, with the Ryzen 5000X3D processors. AM4 was designed keeping in mind dual-channel DDR4 and up to 28 lanes of PCIe Gen 3 (later Gen 4) in mind. The change to Socket AM5 is driven by next-generation I/O, namely DDR5 memory (four 40-bit channels), and PCIe Gen 5.
"AMD committed to the AM4 platform, the AM4 socket for quite a long time. Can you guys give us any idea of how long you will stick with AM5?," asked Paul Alcorn, to which Dr Su responded: "Well, we've been extremely pleased with how AM4 has evolved….we said we would keep that socket for a long time and we have. We continue to believe that it has been good for the community and frankly, it's been good for us as well. As we bring things along, it was time to do a socket transition for the new I/O in the new technology, but I think strategy-wise, it should be similar. I don't have an exact number of years but I would say that you should expect that AM5 will be a long-lived platform as AM4 has been. I think we're expecting AM4 to stay in the marketplace for quite some years and it will be sort of an overlapping type of thing."
Source:
PC World
AMD Socket AM4 was debuted alongside the company's very first Ryzen processors, in March 2017. It has remained AMD's mainstream desktop socket for close to five years; and AMD continues to launch new products for the socket. Even in 2022, the company is expected to give the socket its swansong, with the Ryzen 5000X3D processors. AM4 was designed keeping in mind dual-channel DDR4 and up to 28 lanes of PCIe Gen 3 (later Gen 4) in mind. The change to Socket AM5 is driven by next-generation I/O, namely DDR5 memory (four 40-bit channels), and PCIe Gen 5.
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That being said i doubt AM5 will equal or much less surpass AM4's longetivity. AM4 was an anomaly Same way that R9 290X, 1080Ti, i7-920 or i5-2500K were. Insanely good products with awesome price/performance. Ahead of their time and relevant for generations to come.
It's like saying that a 18 wheels track is the same as a bicycle because they both have wheels!
....slightly......:laugh::respect:
Intel sockets are a pretty known quantity - new socket every two CPU releases which are generally once a year, so 2 years per socket:
- 2015 s1155 Skylake, Kaby Lake
- 2017 s1155-2 Coffee Lake
- 2019 s1200 Comet Lake, Rocket Lake
- 2021 s1700 Alder Lake
For AM4 there is a soft cutoff in the middle with Zen2 and 500-series where you can but probably do not want to be on a 300/400 chipset for Zen2 or Zen3.
No more AMD platform for me, I will switch again to Intel.
Sorry AMD, too much bugs for me.
I think it all changed sometime in 2013-2014. It's just my speculation, but I believe Foxconn started making really shitty "cheapified" sockets. Pins on LGA became thinner and more fragile, and "pegs" in FM2 and later - AM4 also became smaller and thinner. That's when all the madness with "pulling CPU with heatsink" started. I've never seen anything like that before.
"Long-lived Platform": CEO
It almost feels like 2017, doesn't it?My B350 was supposed to be a long-life platform with support through 2020, Zen 3 was released in 2020, Amd changed the script and here we are with no support.
So many lies, about Support through 2020, ROM size and PCI traces being the reason of no Zen 3 support, both debunked.
Like, am I unironically supposed to believe those claims?
I need to upgrade my R5 3600 and I surely don't want to be an AM5 early adopter, I got screwed once, it'd be stupid to make the same mistake twice, also artificial locks are the reason why I'll never buy a B550/X570(s) when the socket is borderline EOL.
ADL is cheaper than Zen 3, has better ST, CPU+Mobo costs the same or even less depending on the setup. Also Raptor Lake will still support DDR4 so I'll get to save some money and not buy DDR5.
What's Amd strategy here? Are they making so much money that they just don't care about the impression they give to their community?
The issue is because of the new AMD chipset B550, I'm sure about it...
As a TPUer start a thread if you want help with it, don't hijack this thread to turn it into a moan about one guy having a isolated issue thread.
Ps I have used similar without issue on x370/470/570 but again one guys test is meaningless and non representative, despite your opinion, and mine.
I've two of each X370, X470 and X570 :) They use 3900X's in the X370, I have a 2700 and a 2700X in my X470's for the moment (upgrading to possibly 5900Xs) and then a 3950X and a 5950X in each of my X570 boards :)
It's all great fun :D
Wonder if they will have any problems with socket warp like ADL has done.
www.asus.com/Motherboards-Components/Motherboards/CSM/Pro-B550M-C-CSM/HelpDesk_CPU/
kinda sorta ;)