InVasManiA long while on the ram. At 8K/16K perhaps, but we're not there yet I mean 8K exists if you're Bill Gates still pushing for 640K resolution because it's all you need for memories really high definition ones.

Well, although I can't seem to find the model right now, Dawid got an 8k TV for 1500 Canadian Rupees (as he likes to call it), so about $1150. While not exactly peanuts, it's completely in the realm of higher end monitors (cheaper than many) and not unreasonable at all if you're really gung-ho about 8k. Of course the hardware able to drive all those pixels at respectable framerates is another matter, but next gen gpus might already be able to do 60-ish fps in many titles with optimized settings of course.
8K Gaming On The AMD RX6400 Was Better Than Expected - YouTube

AM4isGODSure this is a thread about AMD, not Intel. Why is it turning into a shit on Intel thread?

Because there are many overzealous ... fans of the red team that think it still makes them look cool. :D

AM4isGODSure this is a thread about AMD, not Intel. Why is it turning into a shit on Intel thread?

Because AMD and intel are related - they are competitors in one market and intensely influence each other, and depend on the other's good and bad practices.
The Sun doesn't rotate around AMD only.

ARFBecause AMD and intel are related - they are competitors in one market and intensely influence each other, and depend on the other's good and bad practices.
The Sun doesn't rotate around AMD only.

Ok carry on with the Intel bashing

HenrySomeoneBut it's the same price bracket and that's all that matters.


Intel shenanigans?!? :rolleyes: You mean the ones that caused AyyyMD to bring out the Faildozer trainwreck? And to keep hold of it for 6 years?

Here we go with the Intel imployee... you think i don't notice your comments. You shill for Intel so much it's not even funny. Since you must know, the shenanigans that Intel paid ppl/companies like Dell to not use AMD. If you don't know, now ya know.

HenrySomeoneBecause there are many overzealous ... fans of the red team that think it still makes them look cool. :D

I think it is because this is an AMD thread and there is always you there saying how great Intel is and how AMD sucks pulling the same old comparisons and skewed results which give massive space for whatever interpretation you'd comfortable with.
Maybe if you have focused on Intel's threads for Intel's topics suggestions and AMD's threads for AMD's topics and suggestion it would have not brought to attention your attitude towards Intel products people recognize and are kinda tired of.

The 5950x and 7950x are the top notch things. I'm kinda leaning towards the 5800x and 7800x if I were to change something.
I don't need as many cores in my basically gaming rig or some light works and compilations. For crunching data I'd go with something beefier.
Anyway, these presented here are an engineering samples so hard to tell what the final version of the CPU will perform like. I would assume it will be better than that presented here in both cases 7700x and 7950x. How much better? time will tell.
Either way it would seem, AMD has got some power under the hood with the 7000 series CPUs.

ratirtI think it is because this is an AMD thread and there is always you there saying how great Intel is and how AMD sucks pulling the same old comparisons and skewed results which give massive space for whatever interpretation you'd comfortable with.
Maybe if you have focused on Intel's threads for Intel's topics suggestions and AMD's threads for AMD's topics and suggestion it would have not brought to attention your attitude towards Intel products people recognize and are kinda tired of.

I wasn't in this thread at all at the moment he wrote why is it turning into an Intel bashing one. Meanwhile in Intel threads we have rabid fanboys spewing absolute garbage without any backing like this:

"So you are saying that the only scenarios that the extra toy cores are used properly are irrelevant? Does the discourse in defense of intel change according to the positioning of the planets or something? It's funny."

"You don't know where to swim in your word gymnastics, but you ended up in the worst possible scenario, showing how horrible AL mobile is. Even with more cores it still loses out to AMD's octa-cores of the 5xxx generation lol
I don't understand how anyone can brag about a mobile chip not getting the best performance balance with limited TDP. I won't even go into the fact that now the U line has only 2 performance cores."

"The efficiency of intel chips is so bad in TDP limited scenarios that they end up losing to a Hexa-core(5600u) sometimes, not to mention the offboard GPU losing to an AMD iGPU."

In reality no one wants to argue with Intel fanatics over often clearly skewed test methodologies pointed towards in favor of Intel for like 1-3% epeen measuring in favoring while forgoing anything constructive against it. Why do you jgo shill on Intelcucked.com with other fellow Intelcucks in peace and harmony harmony with epeen measuring comparisons? People have grown tired of it especially this late in the generational comparison cycle before a new generation product launch. Plenty of people have reason enough to loathe Intel for a host of different reasons. Lived thru enough of their bs to not fall victim to crowning them hero's as they try to bankrupt the competition in underhanded ways or force them out of competition like was the case with Nvidia that made some of the better chipsets and it hurt Intel's feels. That probably also caused DFI and ABIT to go under as well perhaps not sure would have to look back to see how that time line aligns or not. I don't think it was good for anyone except Intel however.

The fan boy crap is super annoying please stay on topic.

springs113Are we forgetting the Intel shenanigans that caused that stagnation?

Not at all, I even said in my post "paving the way for Intel to begin resting on their laurels put the industry on its ass". Calling it shenanigans is a bit off though, they were simply capitalizing on AMD's weak, hot, and all-around awful Heavy Machinery architectures (FX). They let Intel pump out a nearly infinite army of quad-core CPUs that still annihilated anything AMD had to offer. I should know, back in the day I had a A10-5800K and that thing got absolutely backhanded by my friend's i5-2500k in... everything?

EDIT: I should mention that the Intel Partner Program is absolutely monopolistic BS though. But still, if AMD had something decent to offer back then the impact would have been lessened by a large margin. For example, look at 7th gen Core vs 8th gen Core, AMD released Zen between that time and Intel finally had to get off the couch and actually respond to AMDs cheap, efficient, and pretty damn good Zen cores by finally adding more cores to their CPUs. Now that AMD is firing on all cylinders again (Zen4 hype train lets goooooooo) we see Intel having to do some real innovation again in order to keep up.

springs113Are we forgetting the Intel shenanigans that caused that stagnation?

No we are not.

Real life is not merely about business competition based purely on the strengths of the products.

Real life also consists of empty promises, underhanded business moves, downright illegal tactics, and paid shills and unpaid deluded fanbois.

TropickNot at all, I even said in my post "paving the way for Intel to begin resting on their laurels put the industry on its ass". Calling it shenanigans is a bit off though, they were simply capitalizing on AMD's weak, hot, and all-around awful Heavy Machinery architectures (FX). They let Intel pump out a nearly infinite army of quad-core CPUs that still annihilated anything AMD had to offer. I should know, back in the day I had a A10-5800K and that thing got absolutely backhanded by my friend's i5-2500k in... everything?

EDIT: I should mention that the Intel Partner Program is absolutely monopolistic BS though. But still, if AMD had something decent to offer back then the impact would have been lessened by a large margin. For example, look at 7th gen Core vs 8th gen Core, AMD released Zen between that time and Intel finally had to get off the couch and actually respond to AMDs cheap, efficient, and pretty damn good Zen cores by finally adding more cores to their CPUs. Now that AMD is firing on all cylinders again (Zen4 hype train lets goooooooo) we see Intel having to do some real innovation again in order to keep up.

How can call it amd being weak... intels money paid to keep amd from making money when amd had the better product. Call a spade a spade. The fx was a monster that dominated Intel and the latter paid companies not to sell products of the former. That would have a massive effect on a companies ability to make money in order to further develope better architectures.