Wednesday, September 21st 2022

EVGA Announces Cancelation of NVIDIA Next-gen Graphics Cards Plans, Officially Terminates NVIDIA Partnership

Towards the latter half of August, multiple EVGA employees involved in technical marketing and engineering had let us know privately that they were leaving the company for other ventures. When pushed further, several hinted towards some decisions being made by EVGA's management, including CEO Andrew Han, that would jeopardize their future. Some even went far enough to say they would share more in a few weeks time about how they felt exactly about their time there, the various issues that kept them from doing their best, and also that at least a couple of ex-employees were let go. TechPowerUp was doing due diligence in collecting the facts while keeping emotions aside from contacts who were understandably not in the best of moods, and one thing common across the board was there was something major coming up dealing with the EVGA GPU product line.

Today EVGA decided to throw a massive curve ball by formally announcing the company is canceling its plans to carry the next generation of graphics cards. Given EVGA's revenue sheets point to nearly 80% contribution from being an NVIDIA add-in card partner, this effectively also means an end to a long partnership with NVIDIA. The company's CEO confirmed as much to a few media channels citing poor margins and a challenging, stressful relationship that was no longer fruitful. There are no plans for EVGA to partner with AMD or Intel at this time when it comes to graphics cards and the company stressed they will continue to sell and support current-gen GPUs having retained enough units for RMA purposes too.
Jon Peddie Research also speculates EVGA is going to shift its priorities towards power supplies and motherboards instead that allow for higher margins and a more uniform, predictable sales pattern. Time will tell how EVGA, and indeed NVIDIA too who now has to re-distribute its GPU allocation among other partners and retail solutions, will come out of this split. It certainly does not seem to be an amicable one and we do not expect the partnership to resume anytime soon. This also affects companies who were no doubt planning on accessories for EVGA-branded GPUs, such as custom watercooling blocks from the usual suspects such as EKWB, Alphacool, and Bitspower.
What About Existing Customers
All existing owners of EVGA graphics cards will remain fully covered by warranties, including full replacements if needed. The company has withheld inventory of EVGA graphics cards from retailers (and will probably recall some perfectly-functional cards), so it has buffer stock to serve existing customers in need of total replacements or RMA.

What EVGA's Future Looks Like
EVGA CEO Andrew Han stated that the company has no plans as of now to partner with another GPU manufacturer like AMD or Intel, and the exit from the graphics card business will trigger an "imminent downsizing" of the company (to shed employees associated with the graphics card business). This could also be a subtle hint to AMD and Intel that if they're looking to work with EVGA, they should express interest right now.

Graphics cards made up over three-quarters of EVGA's revenue, and so we're not sure what the company could do next. If one were to speculate, the company could increase its presence in the prebuilt notebook and gaming peripherals businesses, and probably even ride the growth-cycle in the power-supply market with ATX 3.0 and PCIe Gen 5. Next-generation high-end graphics cards are expected to trigger upgrades among those with PSUs 4 years or older, as older PSUs, particularly mainstream ones, will find it hard to deal with the power excursions (spikes) of high-end PCIe Gen 5 graphics cards. The company could also retain its PCB engineering team to further develop its motherboard business. But all these are just speculation. Unless EVGA significantly invests in its other businesses, it's done.

How does this affect NVIDIA in the North American market?
EVGA was particularly popular in the North American market, among DIY PC enthusiasts. Other NVIDIA partners such as ASUS, could attempt to fill its void, but the distinct industrial design of EVGA will be lost, as would features such as iCX; and EVGA-exclusive customer programs such as trade-in upgrades. NVIDIA may also attempt to bring in new partners to the North American market to fill EVGA's void, such as GALAX (Galaxy), or Colorful, which are both major graphics card OEMs in the Chinese market. It will now fall on them to match the design and quality standards EVGA established. EVGA's exit will have minimal impact on NVIDIA's bottom-line, as those in the market for a GeForce graphics card will ultimately buy one from whichever brand.

NVIDIA's first reaction to this development is as follows:
"We've had a great partnership with EVGA over the years and will continue to support them on our current generation of products. We wish Andrew and our friends at EVGA all the best."
EVGA's full statement is as follows:
EVGA CEO Andrew HanEVGA has terminated its relationship with NVIDIA. EVGA will no longer be manufacturing video cards of any type, citing a souring relationship with NVIDIA as the cause (among other reasons that were minimized). EVGA will not be exploring relationships with AMD or Intel at this time, and the company will be downsizing imminently as it exits the video card market. Customers will still be covered by EVGA policies, but EVGA will no longer make RTX or other video cards. The company already made, 20 EVT samples of EVGA RTX 4090 FTW3 cards, but will not be moving to production and has killed all active projects pertaining to cards, including KINGPIN cards.
According to JPR, EVGA was the best-selling NVIDIA AIB in the US market, with a market-share of nearly 40%. NVIDIA would have lead its board partners to take its place.

Update Sep 21st: KINGPIN, a long time associate of EVGA, behind some of their fastest boutique graphics cards and motherboards, posted a note of gratitude for all the fans of EVGA + KINGPIN, and stated that KINGPIN Hardware may continue in some form.
I'm thankful for all the industry friends, old colleagues, etc. that reached out. It means a lot and I appreciate it. The news isn't received well ofc, and I'm mostly sorry for the fans and people that are passionate for our brand and everything that we have done here over the years at EVGA. If the KP hardware is meant to continue on in one way or another, I'm sure that it will :). The EVGA and PC hardware enthusiast community have been great to me and my teams here over the years, THANK YOU.
Update Sep 21st: Jensen Huang responded to a question about his thoughts on EVGA in a Q&A session today:
Jensen HuangYou know, Andrew (EVGA CEO) wanted to wind down the business, and he's wanted to do that for a couple of years. Andrew and EVGA were, are great partners and we're great partners, and I'm sad to see them leave the market. But, he's got other plans and he's been thinking about it for several years, so I guess that's about it. The market has a lot of great players and it will be served well after EVGA, but I'll always miss them, they were an important part of our history, Andrew is a great friend. I think that it was just time for him to go do something else."
Sources: Jon Peddie Research, Gamers Nexus, EVGA, Tae Kim (Twitter)
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536 Comments on EVGA Announces Cancelation of NVIDIA Next-gen Graphics Cards Plans, Officially Terminates NVIDIA Partnership

#51
Gmr_Chick
This smells truly fishy. If you as a company make up 40% of North American GPU sales, and a whopping 80% of your overall revenue comes from GPU sales...you don't just walk away from that to focus on the sales of motherboards, PSUs and peripherals. :kookoo::wtf:
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#52
Penev91
Nvidia just forced them to sell at a loss. More companies are going to follow.
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#53
Metroid
The timing is impeccable, leave and then later renegotiate a better deal, let nvidia and its thieves partners suffer, there was no reason to increase gpu prices so much at all, right now everybody knows the truth that nvidia did that intentionally, sink nvidia to the depths of hehell.
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#54
Chrispy_
Gmr_ChickThis smells truly fishy. If you as a company make up 40% of North American GPU sales, and a whopping 80% of your overall revenue comes from GPU sales...you don't just walk away from that to focus on the sales of motherboards, PSUs and peripherals. :kookoo::wtf:
80% of their REVENUE made one third of their profit.

Do the math; That's pretty damning against Nvidia.

EVGA aren't faultless, but their ragequit outcry isn't in isolation, all the major players (ASUS, Gigabyte, MSI) have publicly complained against Nvidia's manipulative stranglehold over them. EVGA are just the first company to admit Stockholm Syndrome and GTFO of a toxic situation.
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#55
Guwapo77
shovenoseI really would love it if they’d partner with Intel Arc. They need a strong AIB partner.
Are you trying to destroy EVGA? I mean, one warehouse full Nvidia GPUs and another warehouse of Intel Arc GPUs... I don't see this as a winning combination at this time.
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#56
Bomby569
You can't make a lot of money with crypto (the CEO said so) and then throw a tantrum because you have to sell some cards at a loss. That meat had some bones, get over it.

I also don't get the claim that nvidia controls the pricing when we seen the crazy prices in the recent past, seems like a blatant lie

I wonder if this isn't related to the recent spectacular failures they had, with the 1000 series and the 3090
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#57
N/A
Penev91Nvidia just forced them to sell at a loss. More companies are going to follow.
Did Nvidia force them to sell to miners.
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#58
mechtech
RavenmasterWell shit... EVGA was my favourite GPU/Motherboard manufacturer :(
Never had one of their mobos. They look nice, but the segment is always beyond high end and price segment.
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#59
MarsM4N
Doesn't surprise me at all & they won't be the last one. :rolleyes: Every energy guzzling company will be under pressure the next years & sales of non essentials (esp. electronics) will go down the drain.

Got something similar going on over here between supermarkets/discounters and companies like Mondolez (Milka), Nestle, CocaCola, etc. where they raise prices & the supermarkets/discounters are not fine with it and remove or threaten to remove their stuff from the shelfs. They are all under pressure and can't take it that their rising profits over years will now not be anymore. Downsizing is not in their vocabular, lol.

Best bet would be to dump their assests & invest in gas, oil, solar pannels & wind/water turbines. Or gold, that's always a safe heaven in a global economy crisis, lol. :laugh:

Btw. wondering if EVGA is bleeding from RMA's of outworn miner cards? Their extended warranty has to break their necks.
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#60
Bomby569
Chrispy_Storm's a-brewin'

If you say you didn't see this coming, you're kidding yourself.

As a side-note, does anyone remember why 3DFX died? For the sake of healthy competition that benefits us consumers, let us all hope that Jensen isn't quite that short-sighted or stubborn....
3dfx failed because they could never release the damn cards they promised.
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#61
mechtech
Chrispy_Storm's a-brewin'



If you say you didn't see this coming, you're kidding yourself.

As a side-note, does anyone remember why 3DFX died? For the sake of healthy competition that benefits us consumers, let us all hope that Jensen isn't quite that short-sighted or stubborn....
I still remember when they bought out ULi and I thought ok maybe get better driver support...............and ya nothing, bought them out and shut it down.

edit lol

forums.guru3d.com › threads › nvidia-has-bought-uli.163000

[URL='https://forums.guru3d.com/threads/nvidia-has-bought-uli.163000/']Nvidia has bought ULI! | guru3D Forums[/URL]

I think the outcome will be the same as they did with 3Dfx!! RIP ULi.... :bolt: :frown:
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#62
TiN
Wow, didn't expect this really :(
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#63
thegnome
Painful, but shows how greedy Nvidia is getting. Sad to see the XOC cards gone too. Hopefully we won't end up with the big 4...
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#64
Bomby569
that JDPR report is hilarious

"EVGA is unusual compared to its peer companies in the AIB market because the company maintains a large engineering staff and designs its PCB and cooling system, as well as provides software for monitoring and overclocking (EVGA Precision)"

what?!
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#65
Chaitanya
Penev91Nvidia just forced them to sell at a loss. More companies are going to follow.
For 2 years these companies raked landfall profits from pandemic, and crypto boom. Now that things have returned to normal and all of a sudden they are worried of losses, things just dont add up.
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#66
Chrispy_
mechtechI still remember when they bought out ULi and I thought ok maybe get better driver support...............and ya nothing, bought them out and shut it down.

edit lol

forums.guru3d.com › threads › nvidia-has-bought-uli.163000

[URL='https://forums.guru3d.com/threads/nvidia-has-bought-uli.163000/']Nvidia has bought ULI! | guru3D Forums[/URL]

I think the outcome will be the same as they did with 3Dfx!! RIP ULi.... :bolt: :frown:
IMO Nvidia is far too big to fail but even if the 4000-series is a resounding success (and it doesn't look like it's going well so far...) it will still be another black mark against their record.

Their dominant market position has made them a lot of profit but they gave up the console market, pissed off developers with their faulty black-box proprietary tools, and have bet the farm of datacenter/enterprise VDI which is a shrinking market post-COVID.

Their products and tech are good, but Nvidia's attitude and treatment of partners/customers/consumers is fucking horrific. They deserve any repercussions that comes their way tenfold.
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#67
Berfs1
I am sad, EVGA is gone from GPUs...
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#68
Chrispy_
Bomby5693dfx failed because they could never release the damn cards they promised.
Because they tried to go vertical and failed. If you watch GN's coverage video on the EVGA quit fiasco, you'll see official responses from Nvidia that they don't value their board partners and want to go vertical like 3DFX did when they were also the kings of the industry at the time.

"History repeats itself" could potentially apply to Nvidia if they're not careful. Nvidia aren't infallible and they're making enemies pretty fast at a time when the GPU market is contracting, hard. It doesn't' pay to be stubborn assholes during a mutiny....
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#69
TheDeeGee
No doubt there is more going on beside "nvidia bad".
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#70
openbox1980
R-T-BRecent Ryzen mobo launch suddenly makes more sense.


You mean it utterly ending by going Proof of Stake?


It's basically the reference board with a third party cooler, no?


That's not really what the notice says at all. See @jonnyGURU 's postings on this point.
Yea but the black edition was their higher midrange models.
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#71
Bomby569
DeathtoGnomesHere is a guess. The has to do with GPU prices since they are crashing.
  1. EVGA payed higher base prices to Nvidia during the shortage.
  2. As GPU prices continue to drop, EVGA card stock is worth less than when they originally paid to fill the warehouses during the shortage.
  3. Nvidia will not give EVGA a break on the cards they do have in stock.
  4. Without the adjustment from Nvidia, EVGA will lose their ass on current stock.
  5. Ngreddia said tough luck, thats the price of doing business.
  6. EVGA now pissed off brings us here.
it's up to the AIB's to manage inventory, this is just "nvidia bad guy" talk, no company would do what you suggest. EVGA overestimated sales, bough too much, it's no ones fault but their own.
Nvidia also has to pay Samsung for the fab allocation and what they bought and can't go ask for discount if gpu's aren't sold.
NO ONE WORKS LIKE THIS.
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#72
neatfeatguy
ModEl4EVGA has terminated its relationship with NVIDIA. EVGA will no longer be manufacturing video cards of any type, citing a souring relationship with NVIDIA as the cause (among other reasons that were minimized). EVGA will not be exploring relationships with AMD or Intel at this time, and the company will be downsizing imminently as it exits the video card market. Customers will still be covered by EVGA policies, but EVGA will no longer make RTX or other video cards. The company already made ~20 EVT samples of EVGA RTX 4090 FTW3 cards, but will not be moving to production and has killed all active projects pertaining to cards — including KINGPIN cards.

Andrew Han, CEO of EVGA
Sounds like EVGA looked at the current situation of Nvidia undercutting AiBs with their FE cards, especially during the GPU "shortages".

Also, if the margins are slim and EVGA had made some samples of the 4090, but found the cost to be too much compared to making an actual profit without harming the company and then taking into consideration how Nvidia has been handling the 3000 series, it may have very well looked like a complete loss to EVGA to try and go through another generation with them. If Nvidia is sitting on stock (of the 3000 series) and trying to keep prices up enough on the 3000 series so they can price up the 4000 series (as rumors suggest) coupled with companies having 4000 series sitting in stock, but unable to sell them, that's just money tied up in multiple locations that eats into the coffers.

Lots of "what if" scenarios here and without being on the inside and actually knowing it all, we can only speculate.....

Maybe EVGA made a wise choice to cut ties and walk away? I guess only time will tell.
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#73
Fluffmeister
TheDeeGeeNo doubt there is more going on beside "nvidia bad".
Indeed, if Nvidia are the bad guys, why no partnership with AMD? Surely that would be seen as a big win for AMD and their products to lure EVGA away from the big bad wolf.
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#74
RandallFlagg
shovenoseI really would love it if they’d partner with Intel Arc. They need a strong AIB partner.
I had this fleeting wish too. It occurred to me that may have been the original plan, among reports that this has been in the works since sometime in the April-July time frame.

If that was ever a possibility (a big IF), it may be that EVGA decided Intel wasn't up to snuff on GPUs yet, driving a final nail into the coffin of their GPUs.
neatfeatguySounds like EVGA looked at the current situation of Nvidia undercutting AiBs with their FE cards, especially during the GPU "shortages".

Also, if the margins are slim and EVGA had made some samples of the 4090, but found the cost to be too much compared to making an actual profit without harming the company and then taking into consideration how Nvidia has been handling the 3000 series, it may have very well looked like a complete loss to EVGA to try and go through another generation with them. If Nvidia is sitting on stock (of the 3000 series) and trying to keep prices up enough on the 3000 series so they can price up the 4000 series (as rumors suggest) coupled with companies having 4000 series sitting in stock, but unable to sell them, that's just money tied up in multiple locations that eats into the coffers.

Lots of "what if" scenarios here and without being on the inside and actually knowing it all, we can only speculate.....

Maybe EVGA made a wise choice to cut ties and walk away? I guess only time will tell.
Honestly this may not be a market where *anyone* can make a profit on new GPUs for some time. Catering to the Crypto mining market was always going to have a future price, the bill now seems due.
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#75
Bomby569
Kingpin would have nothing to do with a partnership with Intel :D
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