Monday, April 3rd 2023

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 has an Average Gaming Power Draw of 186 W

The latest leaked slide for GeForce RTX 4070 confirms most of the specifications, as well as reveals some previously unknown details, including the 186 W average power draw. While the specification list does not mention the number of CUDA cores, it does confirm it will be based on AD104 GPU with 36 MB of L2 cache, and come with 12 GB of GDDR6X memory with 504 GB/s of maximum memory bandwidth, which points to 192-bit memory interface and 21 Gbps clocked memory.

The slide posted by Videocardz also compares the upcoming GeForce RTX 4070 with the previous generation RTX 3070 Ti and the RTX 3070, showing a significant increase in shader number, RT cores, and Tensor cores, not to mention we are talking about 3rd gen RT cores and 4th Gen Tensor cores on the RTX 4070. It will also support DLSS 3, and have AV1 and H.264 NV encoders.
The most interesting part of the slide is the power draw comparison, showing a TGP of 200 W, which is is lower than on the RTX 3070 Ti and the RTX 3070. It also draws less power under average gaming, video playback, and in idle. According to NVIDIA's own slide, the GeForce RTX 4070 has an average gaming draw of 186 W, with video playback draw of 16 W, and idle power draw of 10 W. All of these are lower than on the RTX 3070 Ti and the RTX 3070.

The slide also pretty much confirms the previously reported $599 price tag, at least for some of the RTX 4070 graphics cards, as some custom models will definitely be priced significantly higher. So far, it appears that NVIDIA might not change the launch price, and, as reported earlier, the $599 will leave plenty of room for custom RTX 4070 graphics cards without going close to the less expensive RTX 4070 Ti graphics cards, which sell close to $800.
Source: Videocardz
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56 Comments on NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 has an Average Gaming Power Draw of 186 W

#1
Kyan
The painful fact is that the 3070 is still near the MSRP after all this time
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#2
oxrufiioxo
KyanThe painful fact is that the 3070 is still near the MSRP after all this time
Last i checked it's still on average above it. At least here in the states.


I'm still not sure how I feel about this card. While I won't judge it as harshly as the 4070ti being 200 usd cheaper and at least still coming with 12GB of vram I still feel this looks like it should have been a 3060ti successor more than a 3070 replacement.

3080 performance with 20% more vram for 100 usd less just isn't very exciting to me over 2 years later at least when looking at msrp. Still this could have been worse like the 4070ti I guess that is priced like an 80 tier product but loses gas at 4k.

I still think this will do better than the two products above it though and the efficiency will likely be in another class vs ampere.
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#3
Dristun
KyanThe painful fact is that the 3070 is still near the MSRP after all this time
And the mining cards are still getting dumped by the thousands a year and half since the end of the boom. It's astonishing to see how many actually ended up in farms. Every time I check used market over here, there are lots available of hundreds of similar cards at once from many sellers.
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Vya Domus
Is this supposed to be impressive ?
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#5
ixi
Vya DomusIs this supposed to be impressive ?
Thinking the same. And can't Come to a conslusion...
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#6
oxrufiioxo
Vya DomusIs this supposed to be impressive ?
It kinda depends on amd on how impressive/unimpressive this is if the 7800XT goes the same route as the 7900XT and is basically a laughable product at the price they are asking for it then sure this will be impressive. On the other hand if AMD offers somthing with more vram and 15% ish more performance on average for the same price then it'll be unimpressive.

Vs older generation cards nothing but the 4090 and to a lesser extent 7900XTX look all that impressive but I guess that is subjective and when I say that I'm only comparing them vs their predecessors.
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#7
Unregistered
KyanThe painful fact is that the 3070 is still near the MSRP after all this time
The problem who's buying them, you can get a 6800 or 6800xt for the same price.
#8
Gungar
Vya DomusIs this supposed to be impressive ?
Of course, it's a "gIaNt LeAp"!!!
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#9
oxrufiioxo
Xex360The problem who's buying them, you can get a 6800 or 6800xt for the same price.
I already felt that other than for the people that needed a gpu and had no other options during the crypto boom that the 3070/3070ti where already the Nvidia fanboy edition cards.
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#10
SOAREVERSOR
oxrufiioxoI already felt that other than for the people that needed a gpu and had no other options during the crypto boom that the 3070/3070ti where already the Nvidia fanboy edition cards.
It's not really fan boy stuff though. The reality is that most people just buy nvidia regardless and then cheer on AMD in the idiotic hope that it leads to cheaper nvidia which just isn't going to happen.
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#11
Why_Me
Xex360The problem who's buying them, you can get a 6800 or 6800xt for the same price.
I don't see gamers purchasing a 6800 if they can get a 4070 for the same price if those cards are similar in benchmarks. I'm thinking 150 FPS average at 1440P.

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Vya Domus
oxrufiioxoIt kinda depends on amd on how impressive/unimpressive this is if the 7800XT goes the same route as the 7900XT and is basically a laughable product at the price they are asking for it then sure this will be impressive. On the other hand if AMD offers somthing with more vram and 15% ish more performance on average for the same price then it'll be unimpressive.

Vs older generation cards nothing but the 4090 and to a lesser extent 7900XTX look all that impressive but I guess that is subjective and when I say that I'm only comparing them vs their predecessors.
We're talking just power consumption here, 180W is nothing to write home about for a GPU of that performance level considering that they're on a superior node and have a lower transistor count than AMD plus it's not a chiplet design that's inherently less power efficient.
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#13
Why_Me
Vya DomusWe're talking just power consumption here, 180W is nothing to write home about for a GPU of that performance level considering that they're on a superior node and have a lower transistor count than AMD plus it's not a chiplet design that's inherently less power efficient.
186W is great news.

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#14
oxrufiioxo
SOAREVERSORIt's not really fan boy stuff though. The reality is that most people just buy nvidia regardless and then cheer on AMD in the idiotic hope that it leads to cheaper nvidia which just isn't going to happen.
I agree, although amd isn't helping themselves by releasing slightly worse products at slightly lower pricing. I think if the 7900XT was $700 and the 7900XTX was $900 they'd be hard to ignore vs the 4070ti/4080 sure you'd still have prople who only buy nvidia but it wouldn't be so clear cut.

Keep in mind over the last decade I've almost always bought nvidia myself but when amd was at least similar 7970/290X I did grab them

Just looking at my last gpu purchases

2080ti amd didn't offer anything remotely close to it at the time

3080ti the 6900XT was tempting but with it's worse rt performance and it actually costing more at the time it wasn't appealing.

4090 amd back to not really offering anything that's overly competitive.

I'm hoping for the 8000/5000 series that changes.
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Vya Domus
Why_Me186W is great news.
No, it's really not. They're own figures reveal the truth, they say the 4070ti is supposed to be 240W not 284W, so you can safely add 40 watts to those 186 and then you realize this is even less impressive.
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#16
oxrufiioxo
Vya DomusNo, it's really not. They're own figures reveal the truth, they say the 4070ti is supposed to be 240W not 284W, so you can safely add 40 watts to those 186 and then you realize this is even less impressive.
Isn't the TBP of the 4070ti 285w?
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#17
N/A
Eagle OC is probably closer to a 3090 in 1440p. Recent reviews showed that 3080 is reduced to a mere 2080 Ti or a 6700 XT using max details even on this resolution. what a shameful display by Nvidia. And that was well known. 3080 was better off with 16GB of narrowed bus than 10GB. And here comes the problem 200 watts is throttling the clocks especially when RT and tensor are in use. 186 W average does not include those. Cheating.
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Vya Domus
oxrufiioxoIsn't the TBP of the 4070ti 285w?
Yes, which is why it's strange they'd lie about it in their own material. There is no way the "Average power consumption" for both of this cards is what they say it is, every card out there will just ran at it's power limit constantly unless the framerate is capped or the game is heavily CPU bound.
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Why_Me
Vya DomusNo, it's really not. They're own figures reveal the truth, they say the 4070ti is supposed to be 240W not 284W, so you can safely add 40 watts to those 186 and then you realize this is even less impressive.
Ya, it really is.
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#20
oxrufiioxo
Vya DomusYes, which is why it's strange they'd lie about it in their own material. There is no way the "Average power consumption" for both of this cards is what they say it is, every card out there will just ran at it's power limit constantly unless the framerate is capped or the game is heavily CPU bound.
Maybe Nvidia is targeting 1080p gaming for it... :laugh:


On a side note i have a hard time even at 4k hitting TBP 450w on my 4090 most games sit around 400-420w some lower and honestly 100 of that is the vram due to it having 24GB of it and that doesn't change regardless of game.
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#21
watzupken
Why_MeI don't see gamers purchasing a 6800 if they can get a 4070 for the same price if those cards are similar in benchmarks. I'm thinking 150 FPS average at 1440P.

I believe Nvidia’s target performance for the RTX 4070 is the same as the RTX 3080. If the price of 599 holds, I think it is a decent deal. But I am inclined to think that the prices will be inflated.

As to the low power consumption, I feel there is nothing surprising given the massive leap from Samsung’s 10nm to TSMC’s 5nm. One being a matured node, while the other is a cutting edge node.
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#22
Why_Me
watzupkenI believe Nvidia’s target performance for the RTX 4070 is the same as the RTX 3080. If the price of 599 holds, I think it is a decent deal. But I am inclined to think that the prices will be inflated.

As to the low power consumption, I feel there is nothing surprising given the massive leap from Samsung’s 10nm to TSMC’s 5nm. One being a matured node, while the other is a cutting edge node.
Inflated how?

pcpartpicker.com/search/?q=RTX+4070+Ti
RTX 4070 Ti 12GB $799.99
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#23
Chaitanya
Great a $250 4060 sucking 180W+ and being sold for top end 80 series price.
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#24
oxrufiioxo
watzupkenI believe Nvidia’s target performance for the RTX 4070 is the same as the RTX 3080. If the price of 599 holds, I think it is a decent deal. But I am inclined to think that the prices will be inflated.

As to the low power consumption, I feel there is nothing surprising given the massive leap from Samsung’s 10nm to TSMC’s 5nm. One being a matured node, while the other is a cutting edge node.
I think the best way to describe this gpu assuming it's within 10% of the msrp is it's ok not good not bad.
Why_MeInflated how?

pcpartpicker.com/search/?q=RTX+4070+Ti
RTX 4070 Ti 12GB $799.99
$800 for a gimped product is already inflated bruh.

If this was what was coming out for 599 then it might actually be exciting.
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#25
wolf
Performance Enthusiast
N/ARecent reviews showed that 3080 is reduced to a mere 2080 Ti or a 6700 XT using max details even on this resolution. what a shameful display by Nvidia.
lol what? doubt. A 3080 didn't just magically lose 30% of it's performance overnight, unless of course you are talking outlier situations designed to massively over saturate the framebuffer, or one of the recent garbage spec PC ports/AMD sponsored games, one of which people can get a refund for regardless of playtime.
Why_Me186W is great news.
It's very good, in stock form a 3080 will be bouncing right off it's power limit constantly of 320w, this packs a couple gigs extra and the same-ish performance while pulling 186w, almost half the power (58%) for the same performance. I think it'll lose some steam at 4k but clearly is aimed at 1440p or below. As per usual, the bad news is the price.
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