Monday, July 10th 2023
Intel Core i7-14700K has an 8P+12E Core Configuration
The upcoming Core i7-14700K "Raptor Lake Refresh" processor has a core configuration of 8P+12E. That's 8 "Raptor Cove" performance cores, and 12 "Gracemont" efficiency cores spread across 3 E-core clusters. Compared to the i7-13700K, which has been carved out of the "Raptor Lake-S" silicon by disabling 2 out of the 4 available E-core clusters and reducing the L3 cache size to 30 MB from the 36 MB present; the i7-14700K gets an additional E-core cluster, and increases the shared L3 cache size to 33 MB, besides dialing up the clock speeds on both the P-cores and E-cores in comparison to the i7-13700K.
The processor likely has a P-core base frequency of 3.70 GHz, with a 5.50 GHz P-core maximum boost. In comparison, the i7-13700K tops out at 5.40 GHz P-core boost. An alleged i7-14700K engineering sample in the wild has been put through Cinebench R23, where it scores 2192 points in the single-threaded test, and 36296 points in the multi-threaded test. The processor also scored 14988.5 points in the CPU-Z Bench multi-threaded test. Intel is expected to release its 14th Gen Core "Raptor Lake Refresh" desktop processors some time in October 2023.
Sources:
harukaze5719 (Twitter), wxnod (Twitter), VideoCardz
The processor likely has a P-core base frequency of 3.70 GHz, with a 5.50 GHz P-core maximum boost. In comparison, the i7-13700K tops out at 5.40 GHz P-core boost. An alleged i7-14700K engineering sample in the wild has been put through Cinebench R23, where it scores 2192 points in the single-threaded test, and 36296 points in the multi-threaded test. The processor also scored 14988.5 points in the CPU-Z Bench multi-threaded test. Intel is expected to release its 14th Gen Core "Raptor Lake Refresh" desktop processors some time in October 2023.
181 Comments on Intel Core i7-14700K has an 8P+12E Core Configuration
It's only in games that they are not efficient, but that's only compared to the 3d chips.
But yeah, if this comes out with no higher power footprint its a nice improvement, thats what I am waiting for, is this free performance, or need even more cooling and power.
My 13700k I am planning to use e-cores mostly for running svchost and other background tasks, in that respect, 8 or 12 of them doesnt matter. I dont do software encoding anymore which they would have helped on (due to energy costs). But others might appreciate this bump in e-cores.
Although i wouldn't suggest "insanely efficient" in other workloads, not by any stretch
At Intel, it's bad. Only AMD is good.
Let me enlighten you: it's all I can do on this manufacturing node and it looks good. A significant boost in multitasking and intensive applications.
And the 13900K was available starting October 20, 2022. The refresh comes a year later and maintains compatibility with LGA 1700. Only an amd fan can see something wrong with this new release.
Here is a video review, just take a look
www-computerbase-de.translate.goog/2022-10/intel-core-i9-13900k-i7-13700-i5-13600k-test/2/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=pl&_x_tr_pto=wapp#chart-groups-127173
I don't know why you keep arguing about it, the i7 slam dunks the r7 in efficiency at same wattage, the gap is literally insanely huge.
Even the link you just posted prove it lol
Also the 13700k at 88w is faster than the 7700x at 142w....but yeap, my own facts... Damn, amd fans cannot be reasoned with
Also, according to the same graph, the 13900k at 45w is the most efficient cpu on the planet. Rofl
And before you go ~ but but but Intel's TDP is a hard limit, that's not true! I don't have a desktop chip at hand but I can get TGL-H draw more than its PL1 limit.
Intel's pl2 IS in fact the hard limit.
I don't understand why you are contesting this. It's a no brained that the 7700x is atrocious in efficiency. A 12900k, which is basically a worse 13700k, scores 24k at 125w. The 7700x can get nowhere near that number even if you push 500w into it. It's extremely inefficient.
We've been over this so many times, are you a fan of this guy as well :wtf:
Pl2 numbers are a hard limit. You can easily test it, just go to your bios and set whatever pl2 you like. The cpu will never, ever, ever, no matter what pull more power than the pl2 number you've set.
We don't need to be arguing about it. If you have a 7700x we can test it. Pick the mt benchmark of your choice, pick whatever wattage you think the 7700x does well at, and show me your numbers. I'll show you mine with my 12900k, which is basically a worse 13700k. The gap will be huge. Just do it
Anyways, we don't need to be arguing about it, if you have the 7700x we can test it. Pick the mt benchmark of your choice, pick whatever wattage you want and post your numbers. I'll do the same on my 12900k, which is a worse 13700k. There will be a gap as big as the Atlantic Ocean. It will take you like 5 minutes to test it.
As for testing the 12900k if you can (re)enable AVX512 why don't you do that & test the max power consumption while setting the TDP at say 65W or whatever the BIOS allows, or is that way too honest for you?
The TDP not matching power draw is an amd only thing, tdp is used to describe what cooler ryzen cpus need, not how much power they pull. The actual power draw can be seen from the PPT numbers. Intel doesnt have any tdp settings in the bios. It's just pl1, pl2 and TAU. That's it.
You don't have the cpus but that guy does, you can ask him politely. Why do you think I insist about the efficiency part? I have actually tested it.
1 zen 4 core is around 5-10% more efficient than an ald p core. A rpl p core is around 10% faster than a zen 4 core. So it goes without saying then when Intel cpus have e cores on top of that they Will be more efficient at same wattages.