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AMD Tri-core Processors Details Revealed

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Codenames and features of the tri-core CPUs AMD is planning to launch next year and in 2009 have been revealed. Codenamed Toliman the first tri-core CPUs will adopt a 65nm process, support socket AM2+ motherboards and HyperTransport 3.0. The CPUs will have 2MB L3 cache and will be launched by the end of March 2008. The next-generation, 45nm-based CPUs will adopt socket AM3, support HyperTransport 3.0 and DDR2/DDR3 memory, and will launch in first half of 2009.
Source: DigiTimes

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#1
DaJMasta
malwareCodenames and features of the tri-core CPUs AMD is planning to launch next year and in 2009 have been revealed. Codenamed Toliman the first tri-core CPUs will adopt a 65nm process, support socket AM2+ motherboards and HyperTransport 3.0. The CPUs will have 2MB L3 cache and will be launched by the end of March 2008. The next-generation, 45nm-based CPUs will adopt socket AM3, support HyperTransport 3.0 and DDR2/DDR3 memory, and will launch in first half of 2009.

Source: DigiTimes
Interesting though, I think the success of these will come down entirely to pricing.
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#2
Kreij
Senior Monkey Moderator
Maybe I'm wrong, but shouldn't that be 2MB of L2 cache?
I don't know that much about AMD chips, but I know my Qx6700 has 2 x 4MB L2 cache.
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#3
jydie
So, are these quad-core CPU's that had a defect and are being sold as a tri-core? Or are they built from the beginning to be a tri-core? Either way, I would be interested in buying some if the price was reasonable. :)
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#4
malware
KreijMaybe I'm wrong, but shouldn't that be 2MB of L2 cache?
I don't know that much about AMD chips, but I know my Qx6700 has 2 x 4MB L2 cache.
This should answer your question:

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#5
ex_reven
Wow. I was just asking my mate today why they didnt make tri core cpu's :p.
Thats freaky haha.
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#6
cjoyce1980
KreijMaybe I'm wrong, but shouldn't that be 2MB of L2 cache?
I don't know that much about AMD chips, but I know my Qx6700 has 2 x 4MB L2 cache.
nope not at all L3 is right, this is to improve memory bandwidth and stuff so AMD can kick Intels ass.

:respect:AMD
:banghead:INTEL
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#7
Kreij
Senior Monkey Moderator
cjoyce1980nope not at all L3 is right, this is to improve memory bandwidth and stuff so AMD can kick Intels ass.

:respect:AMD
:banghead:INTEL
Yeah, I saw Mal's diagram.
I guess it's time I started digging into AMD internals to edumacate myself. :)
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#8
Deleted member 3
ex_revenWow. I was just asking my mate today why they didnt make tri core cpu's :p.
Thats freaky haha.
Look at the Xbox360
cjoyce1980nope not at all L3 is right, this is to improve memory bandwidth and stuff so AMD can kick Intels ass.

:respect:AMD
:banghead:INTEL
Please don't post such flamebait.
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#9
jothy
jydieSo, are these quad-core CPU's that had a defect and are being sold as a tri-core? Or are they built from the beginning to be a tri-core?
Yes, either one of the cores was slow or defective. Intel calls it a yield improvement technique. Seems like common sense to me, though.
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#10
ex_reven
DanTheBanjomanLook at the Xbox360
Is that a reason FOR or AGAINST tri core :p.
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#11
Pinchy
ex_revenWow. I was just asking my mate today why they didnt make tri core cpu's :p.
Thats freaky haha.
Lmao I know aye!
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#12
newtekie1
Semi-Retired Folder
Tri-Core processors are nice, but I want low cost Quad-cores! Where is my Q2160!?!?!
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#13
pbmaster
ex_revenIs that a reason FOR or AGAINST tri core :p.
Hey now what's that supposed to mean?!? The Xbox 360 is a beast!!
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#14
jydie
jothyYes, either one of the cores was slow or defective. Intel calls it a yield improvement technique. Seems like common sense to me, though.
I agree 100%... why throw away a CPU that has three perfectly working cores?
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#15
Deleted member 3
ex_revenIs that a reason FOR or AGAINST tri core :p.
No, it's an example of a tri-core CPU already on the market.
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#16
pead929
pbmasterHey now what's that supposed to mean?!? The Xbox 360 is a beast!!
I'm an xbox fanboy myself...and they're made like crap. Its a beast when it works, but mine works less than it does work.
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#17
pbmaster
Well that I can't help, but for the most part they are pretty darn beastly. I only have the occasional freezing with mine, but my friend got his the day it was released and has had zero problems. Weird.
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#18
magibeg
Just throw a bunch of copper and some fans in your xbox360 and that'll solve all the problems ;). On a side note amd breaking out the 45nm so soon was surprising for me. Hopefully this will level the playing field a bit :D
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#19
pead929
My xbox was perfect when i got it. It started scratching my discs so i had to send it back for a optical drive replacement. That thing ran almost 24 hours a day for MONTHS. The new one i ran maybe 7 hours in total in a week and it died....i wish they just gave me back my old one with a new drive instead of a refurbished POS.
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#20
AphexDreamer
Wait, can a Socket AM2+ CPU be used in a Socket AM2 Board or vice versa?
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#21
yogurt_21
AphexDreamerWait, can a Socket AM2+ CPU be used in a Socket AM2 Board or vice versa?
yes, an am2 cpu will work in an am2+ board and an am2+cpu will work in an am2 board with a bios update.

am2 and am3 aren't going to be compatible in this way.
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#22
sam0t
Must remember that AM2 motherboards cannot use all the AM2+ sockets tricks. Think there are some power saving things that AM2 boards cant use but AM2+ can with Barcelonas.
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#23
FatForester
jothyYes, either one of the cores was slow or defective. Intel calls it a yield improvement technique. Seems like common sense to me, though.
Yea, it's actually brilliant what they're doing with it. If a quad core has 3 cores able to run at 2.8ghz, while one is limited to 2.3ghz, why sell a 2.3ghz quad when you can go for a 2.8ghz tri-core? These chips should be great overclockers, but it's mainly going to depend on pricing, and when these things come out. March 2008, 2009?? Come on! :shadedshu
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#24
DrunkenMafia
March 2009!!!!! I was expecting octo cores from intel by then.....

I thought amds' quads were coming out in november or some shit... Are the tri cores a more advanced technology than quad cores or something??
:confused: <--- thats me right there
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#25
mandelore
DrunkenMafiaMarch 2009!!!!! I was expecting octo cores from intel by then.....

I thought amds' quads were coming out in november or some shit... Are the tri cores a more advanced technology than quad cores or something??
:confused: <--- thats me right there
no, thats just when they have finished the quad cores, scooped up the leftovers, roasted, toasted and added special herbs and spices to get yer spankin new tri cores :)

it DOES take time ya know! slow roastin and all..
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