Wednesday, August 27th 2008

Windows Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Released

The latest beta of Microsoft's next web browser has been released today. This time it is a public beta, unlike Beta 1, which was aimed at developers, this version has many of its new features enabled. Some of these include, tab groups, accelerators and compatibility view, which enables Internet Explorer 8 to better display web pages designed for older browers.

You can find out more information and download the beta here.

From the MSDN IEBlog:
You’ll find versions for 32- and 64-bit editions of Windows Vista, Windows XP, Windows Server 2003, and Windows Server 2008. In addition to English, IE8 Beta 2 is available in Japanese, Chinese (Simplified), and German. Additional languages will be available soon.

While Beta 1 was for developers, we think that anyone who browses or works on the web will enjoy IE8 Beta 2. Before the team blogs about our Beta 2 in detail, here’s an overview of what you’ll find in IE8.

We focused our work around three themes: everyday browsing (the things that real people do all the time), safety (the term most people use for what we’ve called ‘trustworthy’ in previous posts), and the platform (the focus of Beta 1, how developers around the world will build the next billion web pages and the next waves of great services).

Source: microsoft.com]Microsoft
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89 Comments on Windows Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Released

#1
Easy Rhino
Linux Advocate
kodlan said:
You haven't had any problems with because you haven't actually developed for different browsers. And IE 6/7 is a nightmare for a developer :banghead:
whether it is or it isn't doesnt matter to me. i have never had problems browsing with IE.
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#2
alexp999
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kodlan said:
You haven't had any problems with because you haven't actually developed for different browsers. And IE 6/7 is a nightmare for a developer :banghead:
So how come in my experience sites display better on IE :confused:
there are some sites, which dont work at all of Firefox!

Tis the only reason i switched back.
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#3
tigger
I'm the only one
Usually,there are always some problems with third party apps for windows,be it xp or vista.I will stick to ie it browses the net which is all it has to do,i dont need it to check my mail or anything else.
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#4
kodlan
alexp999 said:
So how come in my experience sites display better on IE :confused:
there are some sites, which dont work at all of Firefox!

Tis the only reason i switched back.
Well it is not true. They don't work in FF mainly because you have to invent stupid workarounds just to make things work in IE. M$ is alweys making their own "standarts" even when they already exist and are widely spread...
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#5
Dark_Webster
I will only download the final version when it proves that it's better than IE7. For now, IE7 suits my needs.
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#6
OnBoard
alexp999 said:
So how come in my experience sites display better on IE :confused:
there are some sites, which dont work at all of Firefox!

Tis the only reason i switched back.
IE Tab to the rescue, so you can switch back to firefox again :D
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1419

IE works fine too. I was late to jump on FF bandwagon, used IE 5&6 for a long time. Now I just prefer FF and don't have tons of add-ons, just necessity. Adblock, BlockSite and ha-extra (for hockeyarena). Yet to put IE Tab back, as I haven't come across a site that hasn't worked with firefox, if I still do it's couple clicks away.

tigger69 said:
...i say meh to firefox.It uses too much ram and has far too much crap on it. ...why do you need all the crappy plugins and add ons and stuff,which just make vista even bloated and prone to crashing.
Yes it uses a lot of mem, but got plenty of that to spare and no my Vista doesn't crash with firefox, or anything else.
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#7
kodlan
Dark_Webster said:
I will only download the final version when it proves that it's better than IE7. For now, IE7 suits my needs.
I would not be using IE8 for my personal use, only at work if I would have to test something on it. And for all other people that do not do this kind of stuff at work I would recomend to have a look here:
http://www.stopie.com/
http://www.savethedevelopers.org/index.php
:rockout:
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#8
mdm-adph
Easy Rhino said:
whether it is or it isn't doesnt matter to me. i have never had problems browsing with IE.
Out of sight, out of mind, eh? :laugh: Ignorance is bliss.

alexp999 said:
So how come in my experience sites display better on IE :confused:
there are some sites, which dont work at all of Firefox!

Tis the only reason i switched back.
That's because those sites are made specifically not to work in Firefox, through the use of Microsoft-only technologies such as ActiveX and VBScript. It's not a problem with Firefox. Most of the times sites like these are designed in "partnership" with Microsoft (kinda like the way that Crysis was designed in "partnership" with Nvidia).
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#9
Hitsugaya_Toushirou
hmm... I haven't made a comment in a while but IE's layout engine, trident, has to be the worst engine ever. M$ never follows standards properly so a site, which could be made for any standard compliant browser in a short period of time will take like extra few hundreds of lines of code and hours of headaches/debugging just to get it to work on IE... especially when it comes to css, html dom and javascript... Also, IE's incapability of processing min and max widths and heights of elements has to be the lamest thing ever so I always have to keep a workaround template for this.
I wish M$ just stopped working on their browser and let organisations, which specialise in the web browser development to deal with the production of web browsers... or they should at least follow standards.
Until then, I'm for the standard compliant layout engines (which is basically all but IE's Trident):
Gecko (Firefox's engine)
Presto (Opera's engine)
Webkit (Safari's engine)
KHTML (Konqueror's engine)
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#10
kodlan
2 mdm-adph, Hitsugaya_Toushirou: Totally agreed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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#11
Easy Rhino
Linux Advocate
mdm-adph said:
Out of sight, out of mind, eh? :laugh: Ignorance is bliss.
i am not a developer so why would i care. i want a browser that works with every site i go on. IE does that.
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#12
kodlan
Easy Rhino said:
i am not a developer so why would i care. i want a browser that works with every site i go on. IE does that.
Some small cars, lets say Ford Fiesta goes on the road the same way as Jaguar XF. But I don't think you feel the same in them...
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#13
Easy Rhino
Linux Advocate
kodlan said:
Some small cars, lets say Ford Fiesta goes on the road the same way as Jaguar XF. But I don't think you feel the same in them...
very true. but given your analogy im guessing the fiesta is IE and the juguar is firefox. sure they both drive on the road and the jaguar drives better, but atleast the fiesta doesnt break down on some roads. it always gets there no matter what.
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#14
kodlan
Easy Rhino said:
very true. but given your analogy im guessing the fiesta is IE and the juguar is firefox. sure they both drive on the road and the jaguar drives better, but atleast the fiesta doesnt break down on some roads. it always gets there no matter what.
Okay, if both cost 0$ which would you choose? Fiesta or Jag? :slap:
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#15
tigger
I'm the only one
My analogy would be,ie as the fiesta and firefox as a van full of stuff with a massive engine.Sure the van is faster but its full of crap.

We are all individuals and all pick which one we like,whats the point arguing the toss over that really.
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#16
kodlan
tigger69 said:
My analogy would be,ie as the fiesta and firefox as a van full of stuff with a massive engine.Sure the van is faster but its full of crap.

We are all individuals and all pick which one we like,whats the point arguing the toss over that really.
Well you can install only the crap you need :laugh:.
There are other alternatives Opera, Safari. Have you tryied them?
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#17
Whilhelm
Just for the hell of it I opened IE8 and FF3 with six tabs on each. When I looked in the task manager It shows five instances of IE running and only a single Firefox. All the IEs use almost 200megs of memory where FF only uses 120MB



There you have it, isn't the whole point of tabbed browsing to not have to open multible instances of the browser. God job Microsoft :shadedshu
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#18
blueskynis
Whilhelm said:
Just for the hell of it I opened IE8 and FF3 with six tabs on each. When I looked in the task manager It shows five instances of IE running and only a single Firefox. All the IEs use almost 200megs of memory where FF only uses 120MB



There you have it, isn't the whole point of tabbed browsing to not have to open multible instances of the browser. God job Microsoft :shadedshu
Xaxa this is good! :) Even FF3 visually integrates better than their own software...

Want to see more of Microsoft's good job? Look here. :rolleyes:
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#19
alexp999
Staff
Whilhelm said:
Just for the hell of it I opened IE8 and FF3 with six tabs on each. When I looked in the task manager It shows five instances of IE running and only a single Firefox. All the IEs use almost 200megs of memory where FF only uses 120MB


There you have it, isn't the whole point of tabbed browsing to not have to open multible instances of the browser. God job Microsoft :shadedshu
Well here is me running 7 tabs, something funny is going on with your PC. I still only have one instance of IE running and its only using 80mb.

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#20
Whilhelm
I would blame Internet Explorer for running multiple instances. All I did was install it and try it and that is what happened. My firefox works fine and so does my computer.
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#21
Easy Rhino
Linux Advocate
kodlan said:
Okay, if both cost 0$ which would you choose? Fiesta or Jag? :slap:
well, considering your analogy i would say the fiesta because i KNOW it will get me from point A to point B. with the jag, i may be styling on my way, but i will most likely break down before i get there. :nutkick:
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#22
xfire
The privateon feature already exists on Safari Browser.
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#23
Triprift
Im with Rhino ie werks fine for me with all my browsing thats all that matters to me.
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#24
kodlan
Im with Rhino ie werks fine for me with all my browsing thats all that matters to me.
Well I ask my self, why I should convince so unsophisticated people that can't see what crap they are using and what other better posibilities exist?
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#25
kodlan
well, considering your analogy i would say the fiesta because i KNOW it will get me from point A to point B. with the jag, i may be styling on my way, but i will most likely break down before i get there.
HAVE you ever driven a Fiesta? =)
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