Toxicity in the forums

the54thvoid · May 17, 2022

ThrashZone said:
Hi,
Professional instigators exist "you know who you are"
People take the bait
It's a fact of all forums get used to it and hide the instigators it's as easy as it gets.

You want me to hide you?

Anyhoo, I can't believe nobody has posted this yet:

rethcirE · May 17, 2022

r9 said:
In order not to break any forum rules we just have to think like nature loving, muslim, black, transvestite, gay, gender fluid, hardware neutral black woman.

Comments like this are more the problem, in my opinion. You mention black twice, is this because you're not black (likely) and can't contain the race hate? Basically, you're shitting on anyone who may be any one of these things. We support this on this forum? Or just sweep it under the rug? What value does this comment add to THIS topic/thread? Beyond blatant hatred towards something/someone different than yourself....what are you actually contributing here?

DeathtoGnomes · May 17, 2022

Solaris17 said:
Please don’t report it then quote it and fight with them.

Guilty as charged. Being baited is very hard to ignore yet it still needs reporting.

phanbuey · May 17, 2022

Making fun of a company's business practices by calling them 'ngreedia' isn't toxicity or childish IMO. It's poking fun at their branding with valid reasons. Im sure they would love it if we didn't make fun of them for price gouging their customers.

Not to mention names like this do stick, and eventually get back to the marketing departments / consumer outreach that these companies conduct.

Nordic · May 17, 2022

Forum quality had been degrading in my opinion for quite some time. Luckily, W1z introduced a handy ignore feature. I didn't expect to have many people ignored, but forum quality is much improved without their posts being invisible.

Some threads I look at are 90% just reasonable people correcting misinformation from people I have ignored. When I see that, it is clear that I should just avoid that thread. There is nothing worth my time there.

Space Lynx · May 17, 2022

phanbuey said:
Making fun of a company's business practices by calling them 'ngreedia' isn't toxicity or childish IMO. It's poking fun at their branding with valid reasons. Im sure they would love it if we didn't make fun of them for price gouging their customers.

Not to mention names like this do stick, and eventually get back to the marketing departments / consumer outreach that these companies conduct.

I agree, it helps keep these companies in line. Thank God Steve from GamersNexus still exists, he is the last who calls them all out equally when they fuck up or step to far. When Steve is gone... the industry is going to suck.

xtreemchaos · May 17, 2022

i think a bit of to and throw is a good thing as long as it dont turn nasty after all everybody has a opinion and thats what drives a forum. i think the modds do a great job here.

Sithaer · May 17, 2022

r9 said:
Stop with the name calling you making Nvidia cry
View attachment 247758

Where did I specifically mention its about Nvidia? Its about all of them really.
But hey there you go nice display in a topic about toxic behaviour with your posts here. :slap:

qubit · May 17, 2022

What gets me is when the moderating staff don't show basic common courtesy and respect to their members as has happened to me quite a few times over the years and then I get accused of "causing drama" when I'm forced to push back against it. Got a recent example below.

I wanted to post an article link in my climate change thread a few weeks ago. I hunted the thread down only to find that it had been summarily closed without even an explanatory comment by a moderator. It would have been appropriate to explain why for such a major thread. I couldn't see any signs of arguments either, although that could have been hidden by moderation cleanup.

I then hit Report and politely asked why the thread had been closed and if it could possibly be reopened so I could post my update. As I expected, I was completely ignored. What's wrong with basic courtesy and respect towards your members when they make a polite query? I'm quite pissed off about this. Therefore, TPU really can't complain too much when their members misbehave when they're doing so themselves and don't always cooperate with their rules. You're setting the example guys, make it a good one. Just because you have power over your members doesn't make you right.

If a mod could finally answer my question about that thread, either here or in pm, I'd be grateful, but I suspect it's still not gonna happen, sigh.

Deleted member 24505 · May 17, 2022

Just remember to mark certain replies as /s for sarcasm so you don't get the dummys flying

Space Lynx · May 17, 2022

qubit said:
What gets me is when the moderating staff don't show basic common courtesy and respect to their members as has happened to me quite a few times over the years and then I get accused of "causing drama" when I'm forced to push back against it. Got a recent example below.

I wanted to post an article link in my climate change thread a few weeks ago. I hunted the thread down only to find that it had been summarily closed without even an explanatory comment by a moderator. It would have been appropriate to explain why for such a major thread. I couldn't see any signs of arguments either, although that could have been hidden by moderation cleanup.

I then hit Report and politely asked why the thread had been closed and if it could possibly be reopened so I could post my update. As I expected, I was completely ignored. What's wrong with basic courtesy and respect towards your members when they make a polite query? I'm quite pissed off about this. Therefore, TPU really can't complain too much when their members misbehave when they're doing so themselves and don't always cooperate with their rules. You're setting the example guys, make it a good one. Just because you have power over your members doesn't make you right.

If a mod could finally answer my question about that thread, either here or in pm, I'd be grateful, but I suspect it's still not gonna happen, sigh.

I have never had this happen to me, whenever I ask a mod a question they always respond. Sorry that happened to you, maybe try messaging a moderator who runs that sub-forum, so you can reach out directly.

DeathtoGnomes · May 17, 2022

phanbuey said:
Making fun of a company's business practices by calling them 'ngreedia' isn't toxicity or childish IMO.

The toxicity or childishness depends on the context of using Ngreedia and other name variations. So I have to agree that using something like /s or have a more specific smiley :sarcasm: could lighten up the tone of a post.

ShiBDiB · May 17, 2022

phanbuey said:
Making fun of a company's business practices by calling them 'ngreedia' isn't toxicity or childish IMO. It's poking fun at their branding with valid reasons. Im sure they would love it if we didn't make fun of them for price gouging their customers.

Not to mention names like this do stick, and eventually get back to the marketing departments / consumer outreach that these companies conduct.

Toxic? Na
Childish? I'd argue it's the definition of childish

I think the issue is it adding nothing to conversations and is primarily only seen in echo chamber threads. That being said as long as those threads aren't spammy or rule breaking I just ignore them and have no issue with it. The issue arises when these leak into actual discussion threads and they derail the topic.

TPU is literally the only true forum I still actively check. They do a good job of keeping things relatively civil here.

ThrashZone · May 17, 2022

the54thvoid said:
You want me to hide you?

Anyhoo, I can't believe nobody has posted this yet:

View attachment 247757

Hi,
I might not get as many points so maybe :laugh:

The way points are said they aren't a good thing :eek:

SL2 · May 17, 2022

phanbuey said:
Making fun of a company's business practices by calling them 'ngreedia' isn't toxicity or childish IMO. It's poking fun at their branding with valid reasons. Im sure they would love it if we didn't make fun of them for price gouging their customers.

The thing is tho, it's not fun in the long run.

People just turn bitter from posting it over and over again, and readers that aren't fanboys get more and more annoyed. Trying to take a jab at nvidia, etc. but it only ends with starting a lot of pointless arguments.

R-T-B · May 17, 2022

ThrashZone said:
Hi,
Professional instigators exist "you know who you are"
People take the bait
It's a fact of all forums get used to it and hide the instigators it's as easy as it gets.

Or ban them.

qubit · May 17, 2022

@the54thvoid thanks for your pm reply, but shame you closed the pm thread. Thanks for the explanation for why it was closed, looks like it had outlived its usefulness and just wanted to say a few words back about some of the points you made. If you'd care to open it, I'd be grateful. Don't worry, nothing too heavy.

EDIT: and I just got ignored again. See what I mean? This attitude is far too ingrained with the mods here and they can't see that it can actually fuel the kind of thing that they're complaining about by causing innocent and not so innocent members to resent them. Courtesy and respect to your members. Try it, you'll go far.

dj-electric · May 17, 2022

My 2 cents

More and more over recent 3 or so years TPU forums and general userbase does seem a hell of a lot more toxic, both towards general users and staff members, as well as with tasteless responds to PR pieces.
It seems like some of the rules might be a bit too loose to stop or reduce toxic waste of pixels and server capacity over re-digested and wholly expected comments to some PR pieces that goes up.

Often times, it seems like some particular PR pieces get published for the sole purpose of generating pages on pages of empty carb content posts either degrading the brand behind the PR, or userbases

R-T-B · May 17, 2022

qubit said:
I hunted the thread down only to find that it had been summarily closed without even an explanatory comment by a moderator.

I remember when that happened. That thread had become a toxic conspiritorial arguing ground. You probably did not see it because cleanup. I think the topic is sadly now broadly banned under "politics" because some people can't behave themselves.

EDIT: See you got a reply, disregard this then and trust the mods.

phanbuey · May 17, 2022

dj-electric said:
My 2 cents

More and more over recent 3 or so years TPU forums and general userbase does seem a hell of a lot more toxic, both towards general users and staff members, as well as with tasteless responds to PR pieces.
It seems like some of the rules might be a bit too loose to stop or reduce toxic waste of pixels and server capacity over re-digested and wholly expected comments to some PR pieces that goes up.

Often times, it seems like some particular PR pieces get published for the sole purpose of generating pages on pages of empty carb content posts either degrading the brand behind the PR, or userbases

That really can be said about any online platform -- the toxicity overall is increasing. There doesn't seem to be any kind of effective incentive to being a normal human online.

The King · May 17, 2022

Maybe consider adding a Smack talk section to which users can post with some relaxed rules.
Like over on the Carbonite forums.

https://carbonite.co.za/index.php?forums/smack-talk.49/

Talk smack in here, this sub section is not for the faint of heart or easily offended. If you are a snowflake. Just stay out.

Smack talk will no longer be visible to the public eye. Only to logged in members.

It can also be an optional section of the forum that people can disable or enable.

Only a suggestions. It may remove the toxicity from the public forum to a closed section.

By the way that's an awesome forum anyone in SA will confirm the same.

qubit · May 17, 2022

R-T-B said:
I remember when that happened. That thread had become a toxic conspiritorial arguing ground. You probably did not see it because cleanup. I think the topic is sadly now broadly banned under "politics" because some people can't behave themselves.

EDIT: See you got a reply, disregard this then and trust the mods.

Thanks, yeah, that was basically it. Still, it lasted for thousands of posts before the trolls killed it off, so it's not a dead loss. It's the usual few ruining it for the many situation, sigh.

the54thvoid · May 17, 2022

The King said:
Maybe consider adding a Smack talk section to which users can post with some relaxed rules.
Like over on the Carbonite forums.

https://carbonite.co.za/index.php?forums/smack-talk.49/

It can also be an optional section of the forum that people can disable or enable.

Only a suggestions. It may remove the toxicity from the public forum to a closed section.

By the way that's an awesome forum anyone in SA will confirm the same.

We have that. It's called General Nonsense. But even then, it's not a place to be offensive or for being abusive. And we don't want toxicity, period. Strong emotions, sure. A bit of passion, by all means. But toxic? To one another? GTFO.

TheoneandonlyMrK · May 17, 2022

Toxicity , hating Nvidia is toxic.

Hating on people is toxic IMHO.

Having a opinion about a company others don't agree with is just life.

And after parsing through the OPs input through 8 pages , he's not bad but no Saint and definitely has bias.

bug · May 17, 2022

TheoneandonlyMrK said:
Toxicity , hating Nvidia is toxic.

Hating on people is toxic IMHO.

Having a opinion about a company others don't agree with is just life.

"I know company X will do this their next release, because they also did it 6 years ago" - is that an opinion?
More generic "I know company X will do Y because I believe that they will" - is that opinion?

Whether we're talking Nvidia, Intel, AMD, Qualcomm, Apple or whatever, they're all about a lot of talented people working their asses off. Sure, marketing will layer all sorts of crap on top of that and sure, C-level execs have to keep an eye out for profits, but that's how businesses (i.e. not charities) work.

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Toxicity in the forums

the54thvoid

Intoxicated Moderator

rethcirE

DeathtoGnomes

phanbuey

Nordic

Space Lynx

Astronaut

xtreemchaos

Sithaer

qubit

Overclocked quantum bit

Deleted member 24505

Guest

Space Lynx

Astronaut

DeathtoGnomes

ShiBDiB

ThrashZone

SL2

R-T-B

qubit

Overclocked quantum bit

dj-electric

R-T-B

phanbuey

The King

qubit

Overclocked quantum bit

the54thvoid

Intoxicated Moderator

TheoneandonlyMrK

bug

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