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i recomend you swap the Asus CPU cooler for a Sunbeam Contact Core Freezer, its only $5 more after rebate but its much better & will give u higher overclocks.

seriously don't even get a cpu cooler at this time. The intel stock one is fine.

When you have the cash get the Xigmatek one. It will giver better overclocking results with cooler temps. You will just be wasting your money Asus one and probably the sunbeam as well.
 

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seriously don't even get a cpu cooler at this time. The intel stock one is fine.

When you have the cash get the Xigmatek one. It will giver better overclocking results with cooler temps. You will just be wasting your money Asus one and probably the sunbeam as well.

yea, i suppose u r right. better off sticking to stock cooler for now and investing that money into other components.

That sunbeam cooler is no waste of money, BTW. Its the top Intel cooler according to Frostytech, better than Xigmatek or TRUE. Dont know if thats indeed the case though, but good cooler for the price.
 

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so i guess i am good to go ... i should get all parts buy this weekend... maybe monday i dont no
any way thank you all of you for the help
 
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yea, i suppose u r right. better off sticking to stock cooler for now and investing that money into other components.

That sunbeam cooler is no waste of money, BTW. Its the top Intel cooler according to Frostytech, better than Xigmatek or TRUE. Dont know if thats indeed the case though, but good cooler for the price.

Yeah your right the sunbeam one works just as great as the Xigmatek one. They are basically exactly the same because they both bring the cpu in direct contact with eachother. So whatever one is cheaper is the one you should go with.

so i guess i am good to go ... i should get all parts buy this weekend... maybe monday i dont no
any way thank you all of you for the help

Glad to hear and good luck with the build.

If you do end up using the 380w Antec please remember that you shouldn't overclock your system. Your basically running some risks at stock settings. OCing on such a low psu can only make the risks like 10 times worse.
 

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I think I did better...who needs a case?:nutkick:

LITE-ON 20X DVD±R DVD Burner Black IDE Model DH-20A4P-08 - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106226

Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 ST3500320AS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148288

Palit AE/4850S+T352 Radeon HD 4850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814261026

SILVERSTONE ST400 400W ATX 12V 2.2 Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817256032

Crucial 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model CT2KIT12864AA667
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146526

ASUS M3A78-EM AM2+/AM2 AMD 780G HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131324

AMD Athlon X2 4850e 2.5GHz Socket AM2 45W Dual-Core Processor Model ADH4850DOBOX - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103255

Grand Total: $495.59 with shipping
 
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After looking into the 9800GT(I should have known)it is to close for the extra money for the 4850 in performance. So I changed up what I would do




LITE-ON 20X DVD±R DVD Burner Black IDE Model DH-20A4P-08 - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106226
I always buy the retail because it comes with NERO

Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3250310AS 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive

Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3250310AS 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
2 x 250GB drives to raid 0 and get that extra performance to load games faster, and make programs run faster. Over all a big improvement. Would have 500Gigs of one drive after put in Raid O.

Palit NE/9800TXT352 GeForce 9800 GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814261024

As said on top about the performance.

SILVERSTONE ST400 400W ATX 12V 2.2 Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817256032
Will handle lower, but not high high end video cards. A good buy

ASUS M3A78-EM AM2+/AM2 AMD 780G HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131324
This board has about everything on it, it's a good buy.
http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=149&l3=639&l4=0&model=2252&modelmenu=1

AMD Athlon X2 4850e 2.5GHz Socket AM2 45W Dual-Core Processor Model ADH4850DOBOX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103255
This CPU should clock very well, in normal every day stuff as gaming. It will do the same as Intel for the most part....not in benching(besides Vantage)


AllComponents 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model AC2/800X64/4096-KIT - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820159021
Cheap ram, BUT you will not be able to tell the difference in it and the expensive stuff for the most part while gaming. You would notice it a ton more if you ran out of memory.
 

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After looking into the 9800GT(I should have known)it is to close for the extra money for the 4850 in performance. So I changed up what I would do




LITE-ON 20X DVD±R DVD Burner Black IDE Model DH-20A4P-08 - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106226
I always buy the retail because it comes with NERO

Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3250310AS 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive

Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3250310AS 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
2 x 250GB drives to raid 0 and get that extra performance to load games faster, and make programs run faster. Over all a big improvement. Would have 500Gigs of one drive after put in Raid O.

Palit NE/9800TXT352 GeForce 9800 GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814261024

As said on top about the performance.

SILVERSTONE ST400 400W ATX 12V 2.2 Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817256032
Will handle lower, but not high high end video cards. A good buy

ASUS M3A78-EM AM2+/AM2 AMD 780G HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131324
This board has about everything on it, it's a good buy.
http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=149&l3=639&l4=0&model=2252&modelmenu=1

AMD Athlon X2 4850e 2.5GHz Socket AM2 45W Dual-Core Processor Model ADH4850DOBOX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103255
This CPU should clock very well, in normal every day stuff as gaming. It will do the same as Intel for the most part....not in benching(besides Vantage)


AllComponents 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model AC2/800X64/4096-KIT - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820159021
Cheap ram, BUT you will not be able to tell the difference in it and the expensive stuff for the most part while gaming. You would notice it a ton more if you ran out of memory.

note that AMD is slower than intel and that the motherboard is old ( i got top of the line 'almost') and that the u dont have a case i need a new case
 

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note that AMD is slower than intel and that the motherboard is old ( i got top of the line 'almost') and that the u dont have a case i need a new case

When overclocked, if your only interested in keeping the chip at stock then AMD is the way to go IMHO. Just givin you some info ;)
 

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note that AMD is slower than intel and that the motherboard is old ( i got top of the line 'almost') and that the u dont have a case i need a new case

that motherboard is not old. The 780G chipset came out at the end of last yeart or the beginning of this. Plz understand that having a mobo that had this much time to mature is a GOOD THING. This means you'll be getting a board with most issues resolved. Buying brand new boards is not a good idea unless you are experienced. This is your first build and i think a more mature mobo would be better. The P43 board you picked for intel is also a good choice for the money.
 

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Your comparing a ESC board to an Asus board?
http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWebSite/Pr...goryID=1&DetailName=Feature&MenuID=44&LanID=0
http://c1.neweggimages.com/NeweggImage/productimage/13-135-092-02.jpg

Vs
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131324


Even OCed that AMD will do 3.0Ghz on the stock cooler. In games you will not be able to tell the difference in that and the Intel that you picked out. That's the real world difference (do I need to tell you about ESC fail rate?)only in benchmarks will you really be able to tell the differance. Plus my machine that I built would have Raid and would load the games faster than the Intel machine lol.
Plus just look at all the extras that are on the ASUS board compared to that ESC board.(if that's the one that your talking about)

I would not call that top of the line(Top of the line is 200 and up for a motherboard).




You could also drop a 45nm AM3 Quad in it next year with no problems :)




All in good fun me posting in this thread was, and I'm honest on how I see things. :)
 
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i'm not comparing anything. i simply said that the 780G Asus board is not old simply mature. He picked ECS for going with Intel not me. I just said that it will do for the money he is spending on it. Remember he is on a tight budget. I didnt praise theat board or anything.
 

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i'm not comparing anything. i simply said that the 780G Asus board is not old simply mature. He picked ECS for going with Intel not me. I just said that it will do for the money he is spending on it. Remember he is on a tight budget. I didnt praise theat board or anything.

I was telling him lol


I know that he is on a tight budget. I say it's the ESC board that will be out of date, because next year you could still put a new chip in the 780G board. It also has all the extras, and that inculdes windows tools from ASUS that ECS does not have.
 

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I was telling him lol


I know that he is on a tight budget. I say it's the ESC board that will be out of date, because next year you could still put a new chip in the 780G board. It also has all the extras, and that inculdes windows tools from ASUS that ECS does not have.

oh, sorry, i didnt realize :laugh:

I agree a 100% that the Asus board is better (Asus = better quality) and i was just explaining the benefits of maturity to him. Intel is a good choice but when on such a tight budget AMD is a smarter choice (no pun intended) in my opinion. And as you pointed out an AM2+ mobo is more future-proof as well. If he wants to go with Intel i would suggest waiting a couple of months because prices on 775 stuff will drop a lot due to release of 2 new sockets from Intel.
 
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