Facebook is watching you...download your data file.

[NdMk2o1o]

This is standard modus operandi for all online corporations, FB, Google, YT, MS and probably most sites you visit outside of those also. Win10 is doing it in the background Avast that I installed today told me they "collect data" and it took me a few minutes to find the setting to turn it off as it ie enabled by default, android phones you pretty much need a gmail account to use and the same goes with Apple, a VPN won't help when you are using these profiles over the VPN as they can still tie all of your activity back to you via any account you are logged in, you wouldn't believe how unusable browsers and everyday websites are without some kind of adblocker installed, most search results are filled with half a page of ads before you even get to the real results, you can be browsing something then go onto FB and bam you're inundated with related ads on that product or service so they are not just looking at what you do while your logged into their service they are looking at your browser habits outside of that as welll to target you with ads. Corporations will be the new governments as there's no way for the current implementations of government to be able to collect and analyse all that kind of data, hence corporations wil at some point take over and then they know everything about you, you're a number and a user with no privacy or rights. Linux and VPN as well as staying off social media and only using online accounts where neccessary seems like about the best you can do to try and "disappear"

 

[Folterknecht]

https://www.ghostery.com/

 

[qubit]

I love being surreptitiously monitored by large, faceless corporations!

 

[NTM2003]

I only use it to like tech product pages or science pages and for upcoming games but its funny a ad for Amazon will pop up and it be a HDD that I have added to my wish list in Amazon. It's like they know my Amazon wish list.

 

[Vya Domus]

or the porn you're watching.

Without doubt , the biggest concern.

 

[Jetster]

It's pretty self centered to think that you're worth watching

 

[AsRock]

Well go figure Facebook watching people, i would not of guessed that. If i was most on here with smart phones be way more concerned.

 

[Deleted member 50521]

I use Facebook to track fellow researchers. Researchers are old fashioned and they prefer to networking through Facebook

 

[cadaveca]

Truth. But "they" is not the same as "facebook." You are talking a government level actor.

Well, you must ask yourself; what's the difference? And why do you even care what a private company knows about you? They're going to use that data how? From where I sit, if you're using a VPN, the gov is the only person you actually fear might know what you are doing, because nobody really cares. I mean, do you care what I do on the internet? Probably not.


OK, OK, yeah, if you are the type that has an employer, you might be concerned about how your employer might respond to what you do on the internet, but then, if what you do on the internet might affect your job, then why are you doing it?

It's pretty self centered to think that you're worth watching

Exactly. So if you need a VPN, one must wonder why....?

I mean, I know I'm not important. I do whatever I want without fear of repercussions, because nobody is gonna care about the stuff I do... because really, I watch youtube, play games, and visit here and related tech sites. I'm pretty boring for sure.

 

[R-T-B]

OK, OK, yeah, if you are the type that has an employer, you might be concerned about how your employer might respond to what you do on the internet, but then, if what you do on the internet might affect your job, then why are you doing it?

Not saying I have such a situation, but frankly, people have a right to privacy. (Plus, employers are nosy. They might fire you over a lot of things that have nothing to do with your ability to perform your job.)

No, it's not the world we live in, nor does it really concern me personally, but the core tenants of what I believe is "right" remain the same.

And why do you even care what a private company knows about you?

tl;dr: Principles.

 

[cadaveca]

Not saying I have such a situation, but frankly, people have a right to privacy.

No, it's not the world we live in, nor does it really concern me personally, but the core tenants of what I believe is "right" remain the same.

I agree. But I also disagree. To me, the internet is a public space, and in public spaces, just how much privacy do you really have?

Some people feel that they use their computer in the privacy of their home, so need to keep that level privacy intact, but if you walked around in public with a mask on or a bag over your head for "privacy reasons", you are kind of going to look like an ass to those you pass by, are you not?

I still have yet to find someone who can convince me that the internet isn't a public space. I willing to change how I feel about it, but I don't see a valid reason to do so yet.

So i'm totally OK with Facebook collecting data from their users (the only facebook account I have is one for my TPU persona). What are they using it for? Surely not nefarious reasons...

 

[R-T-B]

I agree. But I also disagree. To me, the internet is a public space, and in public spaces, just how much privacy do you really have?

Parts of the internet are a public space. Email and such things you were just using in your argument (or for example, a facebook profile explicitly set to "friends only") need not apply.

So, I suppose I partially agree. I did argue earlier it was fully within the users hands, and is really not "magic."

 

[cadaveca]

WEll, according to those data retention laws, if your email is hosted on a service like Hotmail or gmail, it's not actually private. This is a deep rabbit hole to go down, and probably this thread isn't the place to discuss this, but you know, I'm ready.

 

[R-T-B]

WEll, according to those data retention laws, if your email is hosted on a service like Hotmail or gmail, it's not actually private. This is a deep rabbit hole to go down, and probably this thread isn't the place to discuss this, but you know, I'm ready.

I'm arguing that is wrong... but I'm guessing you already knew that.

And no, it doesn't keep me up at night. I'm here, aren't I? But it does irritate me enough that I don't go out of my way to make it easy for them.

 

[cadaveca]

I'm arguing that is wrong... but I'm guessing you already knew that.

And no, it doesn't keep me up at night. I'm here, aren't I?

I understand. I mean, your UID here for example, is not your real name, not does it appear to contain it. Me, remove the ca at front and back, and that'd my real name (ca is for Canada). How we approach things is obviously entirely different.

I can't say that what's right for me is right for you either. But that alone definitely makes it a really interesting subject to me, especially since I don't fully understand why people are so interesting in "privacy". I had very little growing up, with my grandfather being the head of his church and very active in the community, and me pretty much being raised by them. I don't relly know what true privacy is, as I've never really experienced it, so I don't understand its value..

 

[R-T-B]

I understand. I mean, your UID here for example, is not your real name, not does it appear to contain it.

Bwhahaha.

Think a little harder.

PS: My middle name is "Thomas"

Truth be told though, my name is because I'm about as creative as a rock.

 

[remixedcat]

they won't even let me download my data for the past 4 years and the last time I had to literally bitch at thier CS to get mine bc they had me ID some tagged pics and I have tag happy friends that tag everyone in everything. I think FB needs tagging limits if they are going to require it for that feature. and even when I properly would ID the tags the email never got to my inbox and I even checked spam and the other gmail folders. ugh. obviously I'm a target they hate.

 

[erixx]

On Mobile last week in Barcelona, one big egghead said "sales of 4G infrastructure are slowing a lot, therefor we have pushed harder on bringing 5G sooner". So it's a sales argument not a "human improvement", and higher mobile speeds For what? My mobile carrier is offering me free tv on mobile. I don't want it.
Facebook: log out when you leave and disable 3rd part cookies. I know it is no a solve-all solution. Amazon and Google adds: it is sooooo ridiculous that you see adds and banners everywhere in every single newspaper site you visit of stuff YOU ALREADY BOUGHT MONTHS AGO.

 

[Laurijan]

I downloaded the file and the info doesnt seem to be very critical in my case - imho

 

[rtwjunkie]

I don't relly know what true privacy is, as I've never really experienced it, so I don't understand its value..

I bet you do know what real privacy is, you just don’t realize it. Do you have blinds or curtains on your house?

Do you want a pervert staring at your house and into unprotected windows at your children as they return from a bath/shower? Probably not. I’m guessing you protect them from that, so you innately understand the importance of being secure and safe in your own castle, that what happens there is not anyone else’s business.

I know it’s a house, and not the “open” internet, but I use it as an example to demonstrate the importance of privacy and that you understand it’s concept more than you think you do.

 

[CrAsHnBuRnXp]

VPN doesn't help when your ISP is retaining all data anyway. Depending on your coutnry, it's law that data of various types must be retained. There is ZERO actual privacy on the internet.

As said, the data would be encrypted and if the VPN service doesnt keep log files of it's users, it cant be traced back to a specific ISP which then cant find out who you are.

 

[cadaveca]

I bet you do know what real privacy is, you just don’t realize it. Do you have blinds or curtains on your house?

Do you want a pervert staring at your house and into unprotected windows at your children as they return from a bath/shower? Probably not. I’m guessing you protect them from that, so you innately understand the importance of being secure and safe in your own castle, that what happens there is not anyone else’s business.

I know it’s a house, and not the “open” internet, but I use it as an example to demonstrate the importance of privacy and that you understand it’s concept more than you think you do.

Actually, I guess while my own kids do have this "privacy", as a child I myself did not. I mean, you think I behave this way because I had a safe and loving childhood? LOL.

So while that may be a concern you have, it is not something I even think about, to be honest. Curtains aren't to not let people see in, to me.. .they keep out the light. Just so happens, mine are open all the time. For my kids, their windows cannot be seen into from the outside, so they are open all the time too. I've always lived in houses on the corner, so I don't even have neighbors on one side. I live in a cul de sac at the edge of town.. 40 ft from my place there is a farmer's field....

When you spend your time worrying about what other people do, and reacting to what other people do, you remove your own freedoms.

As said, the data would be encrypted and if the VPN service doesnt keep log files of it's users, it cant be traced back to a specific ISP which then cant find out who you are.

While you may be trusting of technology, I am not. Like, I know (and most people forget) that Intel could brick any Intel-based system remotely. Remember the whole thing about MEI not being secure recently? People forgot, I think, because of spectre/meltdown...

You are trusting that teh VPN does this, but truly, you have NO IDEA what they are doing with your data. There are often losses of security all over from places that people had thought were secure. Like I said, it doesn't matter what I do, I assume that privacy simply doesn't exist on the internet. It's the safest way to use the internet, really.

 

[the54thvoid]

Bwhahaha.

Think a little harder.

PS: My middle name is "Thomas"

Truth be told though, my name is because I'm about as creative as a rock.

Damn, I thought your name was Routledge Theodore Bronheim.

Well, the Theodore is out. I'm still hoping for the other two.

 

[CrAsHnBuRnXp]

Damn, I thought your name was Routledge Theodore Bronheim.

Well, the Theodore is out. I'm still hoping for the other two.

It's Robert Thomas Bisquick.

 

[R-T-B]

It's Robert Thomas Bisquick.

Cadaveca, I forbid you to use your insider staff skype knowledge to feed these goblins.