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If the PC doesn’t POST then clear the CMOS via connecting the 2 pins then remove the jumper/metal object or remove the coin cell battery. The system will come back at default settings. Nothing to worry/stress about.
Heh, my B550 Aorus Pro corrupted its own BIOS after I set one RAM timing wrong. Had to return and get a ROG Strix B550-F instead, which has been through about 20 CMOS resets so far on my RAM timing tightening adventure.

In this case, it's just D.O.C.P. (and ASUS) so I highly doubt anything wrong will happen that can't be fixed by a ol' reliable CMOS reset.
 
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Give DOCP a try. If it doesn't work (which I assume is the case since you use two different RAM kits, but worth a try anyway), do the CMOS reset steps I posted above. Shouldn't need any backups.

I would try to return the RAM if it was bought recently and look into your motherboard's memory qualified vendor list to search for a kit at a speed of 2933 or higher preferrably, if you need 64 GB. If not, you can go to 32 GB and get a 2x16 GB 3200/3600 CL16 kit instead which I'm sure will be fine, especially if it's Trident Z.

I'm not seeing any 2x 32 GB kits in the list so I would not risk it.

Motherboard should be fine.
I second the DOCP attempt. OP's attached order confirmation states purchased Jan 2020 and a return window closed Feb 2020. If upgrading is necessary, I agree that considering lowering to a single 2x16 kit if 64GB is unnecessary is a good idea. However, before doing so, we may just want to have OP try removing one of their current 2x16 kits.

The amount of topics surrounding COD Warzone are really numerous.

Maybe we should have a sticky help topic for it, so the knowledge can be shared more broadly and reach a bigger audience...and prevent us from repeating the same troubleshooting many times.
I would argue this wasn't a Warzone-specific issue though. Warzone just happened to be the game OP is playing while running their RAM at stock frequency. However, I do agree that we do see a lot of Warzone-related threads.
 
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I second the DOCP attempt. OP's attached order confirmation states purchased Jan 2020 and a return window closed Feb 2020. If upgrading is necessary, I agree that considering lowering to a single 2x16 kit if 64GB is unnecessary is a good idea. However, before doing so, we may just want to have OP try removing one of their current 2x16 kits.
Good idea, hadn't gone through my mind. I suggest just leaving 2x16GB Trident Z RGB ones installed with DOCP on if the first DOCP attempt didn't work, @RyanL212.

Or, leave the other two 16 GB sticks installed and return the Trident Z RGB ones since they're ordered recently. Install them in the second and fourth DIMM slot, not the first and third.
 
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Alright, Im off to check on that right now.. Will be back shortly with the verdict. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH
If you don’t have a small jumper block like this^ you can use a flat head screwdriver to join the pins together momentarily.
 
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I would argue this wasn't a Warzone-specific issue though. Warzone just happened to be the game OP is playing while running their RAM at stock frequency. However, I do agree that we do see a lot of Warzone-related threads.
Truth is in the eyes of the beholder. Apparently its hot news to play Warzone, people watch a few YT videos and think they can get the same perf and then make a topic on it.
 
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Good idea, hadn't gone through my mind. I suggest just leaving 2x16GB Trident Z RGB ones installed.
They're "identical" kits, so unless OP remembers specifically putting kit 1 in slots and 1 and 2 and kit 2 in 2 and 4, we may have to double check which stick belongs to which kit via Thaiphoon Burner
 
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Oh hold on I didn't notice the 4 sticks were bought at the same time in 2 separate kits - I thought he had Trident Z RGB with another RAM kit. Looks like the sticks are identical but belong to two different kits.

In that case, if DOCP doesn't work:
1. Remove two sticks (preferrably from slot 1 and 3 from the CPU) and then try DOCP again. If that works, return one of the kits and only use two sticks of 16 GB in slots 2 and 4 for a total of 32 GB.
2. Find another 64 GB kit with a speed of 2933 or greater in your motherboard's QVL list.

@RyanL212, disregard my previous message in which I tagged you in.
 
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Well, here I am.... I enabled DOCP and got this message...(picture attached)
MESSAGE BIOS.jpg

Clock speeds all show 3200 now using this command in CMD promp
wmic MemoryChip get MemoryType, Name, Capacity, Configuredclockspeed, DeviceLocator, FormFactor, Manufacturer, Serialnumber, Speed
 
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So it booted into Windows at 3200 MHz? With all 4 sticks? Check Task Manager's memory tab.
 
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They're "identical" kits, so unless OP remembers specifically putting kit 1 in slots and 1 and 2 and kit 2 in 2 and 4, we may have to double check which stick belongs to which kit via Thaiphoon Burner
I was VERY careful by sticking kit one and kit two in their corresponding places referring to motherboard manual.

So it booted into Windows at 3200 MHz? With all 4 sticks? Check Task Manager's memory tab.
Task manager shows 3200 as well and 56.4GB avail
 
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That is very surprising. I guess you got a good IMC then. Try doing some memtesting just to be sure.

Anyhoo, at 3200 CL16 performance should now be way better across the board.
 
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Sorry for the ignorance, but how do I do that? lol
That is very surprising. I guess you got a good IMC then. Try doing some memtesting just to be sure.

Anyhoo, at 3200 CL16 performance should now be way better across the board.
 
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I enabled DOCP and got this message...(picture attached)
MESSAGE BIOS.jpg
ASUS is reminding you to keep the memory controller in sync with the Infinity Fabric for best performance. There’s a half multiplier setting for a high memory overclock.

Sorry for the ignorance, but how do I do that? lol
There is a built in Windows memory diagnostic test. It’s under the Administrative Tools section on the Start Menu.
 
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ASUS is reminding you to keep the memory controller in sync with the Infinity Fabric for best performance. There’s a half multiplier setting for a high memory overclock.


There is a built in Windows memory diagnostic test. It’s under the Administrative Tools section on the Start Menu.
Okay, so I ran the dianostic test in windows admin tools and upon restart, it gave me an error message telling me to repair windows with a disk. Instead, I hit ESC to run bios and accepted the same settings to get back into windows. Here I am again.. lol.

So what does that mean for me?
 
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So what does that mean for me?
Something isn’t right with your Windows installation. Either the Recovery partition is missing from the boot drive or something else amiss with your current partition layou on the drive. What does Disk Management show for the boot drive partitions?
 
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Press Win Key + R, type eventvwr and press OK.
Go to Windows Logs -> System. Check for any "WHEA" errors.
There may be system corruption going on and the RAM OC isn't stable. There could also be the automatic disk repair being triggered from you rebooting your PC, and the RAM is completely stable.

To find out, I suggest you put memtest86 on an empty USB drive and boot into the USB drive, then do a memtest overnight. See if any errors appear. Memtest86 showed me RAM errors when any other software wouldn't.
 
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Something isn’t right with your Windows installation. Either the Recovery partition is missing from the boot drive or something else amiss with your current partition drive layout.
I did have a big "to-do" with installing a new CPU... I upgraded from Ryzen 7 to Ryzen 9 and when doing the reboot after installation, the entire PC went to shit and wasnt showing my SSD as a bootable drive (the gen 3 1TB.) I had to do a full recovery and re-do the drive entirely and even had to call windows for my product key to reinstall windows. Could that be part of the issue with this error?
 
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This was the error log list.. there are tons.. I sorted them by level.
 

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This was the error log list.. there are tons.. I sorted them by level.
What does the Event Viewer show on the main summary panel? Is there anything related to WHEA hardware errors? Kernel-Power is usually for unclean reboot/shutdowns.
 
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Ignorance again... where would this be exactly? Im sorry!
I’m at work right now otherwise I would post a screenshot from my PC to help you out.
 
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Ignorance again... where would this be exactly? Im sorry!
Still in Windows Logs -> System, click on "Source" twice to sort from Z to A:


If you have any "WHEA-Logger" errors, inspect them and the date they were logged. Post screenshots here.
 
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