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Frame loss across the board. PLEASE HELP

Furry said:
You could try uninstalling one of the kits, but no guarantees. Your best option would be to lower the clock speed, and then uninstalling one of the kits, to see if a specific one is causing the problem or if it's caused by mixing two separate kits. If that doesn't work, buy a singular kit 4x16. Refer to the QVL list as post above says.
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Not on topic but that's one fantastic profile pic.

RyanL212 said:
is there a link for this list?
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Yes, I sent it earlier: https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/...or_3rd_Gen_AMD_Ryzen_Processors_X570_0722.pdf
 
RyanL212 said:
oh crap. Sorry! lol. Im looking at it now. Also gonna try to turn the clock speed down and uninstalling one kit to see if there is any stability.
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Take it in steps. It might be fine with the 64 GB installed at 2933 MHz if not remove one or the other kit. If you remove one of the 32 GB kits you can try again at 3200 MHz.
 
biffzinker said:
Take it in steps. It might be fine with the 64 GB installed at 2933 MHz if not remove one or the other kit. If you remove one of the 32 GB kits you can try again at 3200 MHz.
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I did just see in BIOS the RAM timing is off...
Current timing:
16-18-18-38
 
16-18-18-38 are the timings your RAM kits are supposed to run at. Manually change frequency to 2933, leave the timings as set by DOCP.
 
So I went into bios, changed AI Overclock Tuner to manual, changed clock settings to 2933, left everything else to auto, and booted. This was the restart....

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Any chance you remember seeing what the SoC voltage was in the BIOS with 3200 MHz? If you check in the BIOS while it’s still set at 2933 MHz what’s the reading for the SoC voltage?
 
Yes, you might need to bump the voltage up to 0.05 with the +offset. The integrated memory controller most likely is having trouble with the four sticks.
 
RyanL212 said:
So turn this up to 1.15?
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Yes, only 1.15 or 1.2 if it still blue screens with 1.15. It doesn’t need a lot to improve stability.
 
So when I go to set it to manual the next drop down defaults to auto and won’t let me manually change it at all.
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RyanL212 said:
So when I go to set it to manual the next drop down defaults to auto and won’t let me manually change it at all. View attachment 185114
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Something with the way ASUS has the option set up? It works the way you’re going about it on my MSI board. Try rebooting after changing it from manual. Although you should be able make any changes then save, and reboot.

Instead of the arrow keys how about pgup/pgdown keys?
 
So I kept those settings and rebooted and missed the bios boot, so it tried to load windows. Still got a blue screen. Gonna see if I can tweak that number and try again.

EDIT: Still doesn't allow me to change the voltage at all.
 
With four slots filled on my board it requires 1.15 for SoC to be stable at 3333 MHz although the capacity is only 32 GB.
 
So I guess im just confused as to why it would boot just fine at 2133 and then at 3200 but not at 2933?? Should I just change all back to default and get a new motherboard and RAM? Reinstall windows? Im not sure of my best options.

Or I guess go with the option of removing two sticks and run again at 3200?

Also, I did just reset all to default, turn DOCP (or XMP) back on, and restart, another blue screen

Then tried to remove DOCP, restart, then this

Then again tried a reboot, and blue screen.
 

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RyanL212 said:
So I guess im just confused as to why it would boot just fine at 2133 and then at 3200 but not at 2933??
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The Auto voltage setting for the SoC with 3200 MHz set most likely was increased by the BIOS during the pre POST phase. That’s why I was curious what would happen at 2933 MHz.

If you have the time for troubleshooting it you will eventually get the hang of it. Otherwise drop down to 32 GB, and try to stabilize the system at 3200 MHz. Sell one kit, and go shopping for a 64 GB kit then sell the other kit when the 64 GB kit shows up.
 
At this point, would there be any reason for a new motherboard? What Im thinking is... Go to microcenter.. I wanted a new case anyways... Buy a case, motherboard, and a 64GB kit? Also I've heard the reinstallation of windows brought up more than once.. would all or any of this be beneficial?
 
biffzinker said:
The Auto voltage setting for the SoC with 3200 MHz set most likely was increased by the BIOS during the pre POST phase. That’s why I was curious what would happen at 2933 MHz.

If you have the time for troubleshooting it you will eventually get the hang of it. Otherwise drop down to 32 GB, and try to stabilize the system at 3200 MHz. Sell one kit, and go shopping for a 64 GB kit then sell the other kit when the 64 GB kit shows up.
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This. you're fighting an uphill battle trying to get 2 separate 2x16 kits stable. I agree that you should just drop down to 32GB and look to pick up a 4x16 kit (if you really need 64GB of course - for just gaming, 64GB is overkill).
 
So I run CAD, Video editing software, Graphic design software, and gaming on this PC.. Is 64 still overkill?

Also, Ive tried running 4 sticks and two sticks, both at default and with DOCP enabled, NONE OF THESE will let me boot windows anymore. It blue screens every single time now.
 
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RyanL212 said:
So I run CAD, Video editing software, Graphic design software, and gaming on this PC.. Is 64 still overkill?
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No, from what I understand, a lot of those workstation applications benefit from more system memory. However, 32GB is a commonly recommended amount of memory for systems with similar use cases to yours, so I think pulling out one kit and dropping to 32GB isn't going to hinder your performance in those applications. You'll likely have a much easier time getting 2 sticks stable at 3200 which will improve your gaming performance while still having enough memory for your video editing, CAD, etc.

RyanL212 said:
At this point, would there be any reason for a new motherboard? What Im thinking is... Go to microcenter.. I wanted a new case anyways... Buy a case, motherboard, and a 64GB kit? Also I've heard the reinstallation of windows brought up more than once.. would all or any of this be beneficial?
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There are definitely newer motherboards out there with better memory topologies. I'm no expert though. Would have to do some research and see what's out there. You just have the one PCIe 4.0 SSD, so you could technically look at a B550 board, unless you're planning to upgrade your 3.0 drive to another PCIe 4.0 drive in the future.
 
milewski1015 said:
No, from what I understand, a lot of those workstation applications benefit from more system memory. However, 32GB is a commonly recommended amount of memory for systems with similar use cases to yours, so I think pulling out one kit and dropping to 32GB isn't going to hinder your performance in those applications. You'll likely have a much easier time getting 2 sticks stable at 3200 which will improve your gaming performance while still having enough memory for your video editing, CAD, etc.


There are definitely newer motherboards out there with better memory topologies. I'm no expert though. Would have to do some research and see what's out there. You just have the one PCIe 4.0 SSD, so you could technically look at a B550 board, unless you're planning to upgrade your 3.0 drive to another PCIe 4.0 drive in the future.
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Ive tried dropping to two sticks, and all default and nothing will let the system boot. Ive also tried disabling wireless controller (I've seen people needing to do this for whatever reason) but nothing will let the system boot anymore. I cant get out of BIOS at all.

Also, for some reason when in bios the cpu clock now shows as 3800MHz as to before clock showed as 4000MHz and as far as I know, I did nothing to change that in any way.
 
RyanL212 said:
Ive tried dropping to two sticks, and all default and nothing will let the system boot. Ive also tried disabling wireless controller (I've seen people needing to do this for whatever reason) but nothing will let the system boot anymore. I cant get out of BIOS at all.

Also, for some reason when in bios the cpu clock now shows as 3800MHz as to before clock showed as 4000MHz and as far as I know, I did nothing to change that in any way.
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Two sticks (slots 2 and 4) doesn't boot, even at 2133? 3.8GHz is the base clock for the 3900X you have. Sounds like you had a 200Mhz overclock on it before and clearing CMOS removed that.
 
milewski1015 said:
Two sticks (slots 2 and 4) doesn't boot, even at 2133? 3.8GHz is the base clock for the 3900X you have. Sounds like you had a 200Mhz overclock on it before and clearing CMOS removed that.
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Correct.. slots 2&4 with 16GB inserted both on 2133 and 3200 does not boot at all.
 
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