GTX 1080 Turbo OC - Bios Question

[WanaGo]

Hi,

Yes, few generations behind I know..
I have had this Gigabyte GTX 1080 Turbo OC for a few years now, and ever since I have had it I have had to reduce the Memory and Core clocks with MSI Afterburner by about 120 'units', and increase the Core Voltage by +25 units, in order to make it stable. I don't know what or why, but it just seems to be what works on this system. I also run the fans a bit harder then stock, as that was the primary thing I tried when I got the card and it made a difference, but didnt solve it entirely. So the boost clocks seem to be what cause this to have issues I think, as lowering the temp while boosting I am guessing is giving it some more stable headroom - if that makes sense. (Guess)

I have a i7-3930K processor, 32GB or RAM, Asus P9x79 Motherboard, and a 750W Corsair PSU. The base PC I built in 2011, so yes its a few years old now, but it goes surprising well all things considered. I am hoping to upgrade to a better system next year when world stocks of all the new gear settles down a bit.

Anyway, the question I had was about the BIOS of this card.
Using GPU-Z, its telling me my Bios is as per the screenshot, 86.04.3B.00.AA

I can see there are a couple with higher revisions than what I have. 86.04.60.00.DB and 86.04.60.40.1F for example.

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I have not flashed a GPU before, so am not 100% sure what things I need to line up to ensure its compatible. But using the 'Find compatible Bios' button on the Techpowerup site, led me to find these above, so I assume they are compatible?

Do you think it will be worthwhile flashing a higher bios, and do you think it could solve me having to reduce the clocks of the card, so I get better stability with default settings, or possibly a mild overclock?

Really all I want to achieve is for it to run as it should, rather than having to downclock it to run without various quit to desktops and crashes.

Any input would be appreciated.

Thanks

The other weird thing is MSI Afterburner says my Memory Clock is 5005 Mhz or so...
This should be 1251 Mhz, no ?

Edit: MSI Afterburner seems to be wrong, as GPU-Z seems to be right, and changes when I adjust the MSI Afterburner clocks and apply them, but Afterburner itself doesnt change. Weird, anyway.

 

[basco]

welcome to TPU forums!

if the card is not stable now i would strongly advise not to flash.

what about dust or did ya change the thermal paste?

these lateral cooling solutions, if filled with dust, the air has nowhere to go
here is a pic from other card just for your info-look at 4th pic:

ASUS Intros GeForce RTX 3090 Turbo OC with a Lateral Blower

ASUS looks to one-up GIGABYTE by pairing a 350-Watt GeForce RTX 3090 with a classic lateral blower cooling solution, by introducing its new RTX 3090 Turbo OC graphics card (model: TURBO-RTX3090-24G). ASUS claims that the card is designed for "environments with restricted airflow." The card is...

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i ask because 45° in idle seems a bit high with such low volts at 0,850v

what temps do ya get under load ?
just try the test in gpu-z where the "? " is and post a pic of the gpu-z sensor tab plz

and dont mind the readings-that´s just different ways to intrepret it. gpu-z 1250x4 =5000

do ya have this tool=AORUS Graphics engine utility installed?

i too have a system with 3930k overclocked to 4,0ghz-- still a capable machine

 

[Vya Domus]

Do you think it will be worthwhile flashing a higher bios, and do you think it could solve me having to reduce the clocks of the card, so I get better stability with default settings, or possibly a mild overclock?

Should have returned or RMA the card when you could. It's unlikely that this is because of the BIOS and more likely to be a hardware problem, if you're willing to take the risk do it but keep in mind there is the possibility of bricking the card.

If you do chose to flash it I would advise you contact ASUS and ask for the newest BIOS directly from them to be sure, ask them about your problem as well.

because 45° in idle seems a bit high with such low volts at 0,850v

It's a blower, mine sat around 40C as well.

 

[WanaGo]

Idle is around 36 degrees C, doing normal office type work. Ambient is about 22 C.
Under load using Heaven Benchmark, it gets to maybe 77 or so with full fan, essentially full load.

Maybe it has been the games that have been causing it, not so much the graphics card, as under Heaven (which I only installed yesterday), it has not crashed (so far), with 99% load most of the time. I even used MSI Afterburner OC to do a scan etc and its now set to use 'Curve' for Core clock, and +0 for Memory clock still, and it seems stable (so far). It came back saying the confidence was about 90%.

I also set Power Limit to be +120 (max), and set the Temp limit to 85C as I don't really want it going to max. I have never seen it hit the temp limit however, no where near.

Here is a quick snap from yesterday testing.

I noticed the Memory clock is lower than what I thought default was, is that lowering due to power limit, or temperature perhaps?

I have already changed the paste about a year ago, and it made no real difference, maybe a degree or two. It is clean, not full of dust or anything, its operating in a pretty clean environment.

Here is another shot at idle, just using websites/email etc

I somehow don't think the Afterburner voltage +25 was doing anything at all.

Thanks

Doing the Render test in GPU-Z now, never saw that before.
ill post results when its done. Starting off the GPU clock is 2012Mhz but its going down as it warms up as expected (still using +120 power, and Curve Core clock in MSI Afterburner)

Here is the Render Test sensor view (just doing the small windowed render, not full screen) after a few minutes, almost the full width on the sensor graph.

and another Idle shot

 

[WanaGo]

do ya have this tool=AORUS Graphics engine utility installed?

Missed this bit. I do, but its not running. I tried this and MSI Afterburner, but went back to MSI Afterburner in the end.
Something specific about AORUS I should be aware of?

Thanks

 

[Jacky_BEL]

I see in that MSi afterburner window that you have a 850mV voltage reading.
The cards I have running show 0mV there, don't know why there is a difference.
At nearly 100% load and 115% TDP, a voltage of 0.99V looks good and temperatures of 77C at 207W powerdraw are also really good I guess.

 

[basco]

i just asked about aorous engine because it has an oc mode that overclocks the card a little bit more.