Discussion in 'AMD / ATI' started by F430, Oct 2, 2009.
in israel the 5850 cost 340 dollars
the cheapest 5850 cost in israel 1380 shekel (360$) some stores sell it for 1450-1650 shekel(380$-430$)
Sorry but anybody talking about yields is obviously "drinking the cool aid". Yield is all about the fab and not Nvidia. Nvidia is not having problems with yields unless you believe the fabricated stories by guys that just lie. Seriously get a better source. Or start wearing tin foil helmets.
Why do they lie? Because people like you will just believe them and never question its validity. Even W1zzard said any talk of yields is BS.
bigger die=lesser yield? doesnt seem so difficult for me...
anyways... i believe this person, because i have eyes ;-)
start to to fanboi here, when the real fermi is ready. until then (probably march) i will have fun with my 5850,maybe 2
take a piece of paper. use a marker to put 5 dots (= silicon defects) on it. now cut the paper into 10 pieces, whats your yield % ?
now use another paper, put 5 dots too and cut it into 50 pieces, whats the yield % now ?
uhm, i havent done it, but i believe the size of the dot matters... and if the dots are spreaded or concetrated on one small area.... im not that microchip genius, it just sounded logical
tho its a fact, that nvidia lovers probably face a sad christmas due to what fact ever, maybe nvidia just has lost their fortune,maybe they just bluff, and have the real fermi in the backhand. the only thing i know now is: it wont be cheap
it was just a simple example to illustrate why smaller die = better yields (afaik in all statistical models, feel free to math me wrong).
excellent summary read: http://www.siliconfareast.com/test-yield-models.htm
thats absolutely the cause i meant. and it saves ati/amd a lot of money,am i right?
2 months ago I bought a new GTX 275 for $50 less than the price of a 5850.
slower. no dx 11. no eyefinity. hotter. louder. no hdmi.
i ordered a 5850 today from amazon, but it says it's not shipping till the 13th
The GTX series does do HDMI through the adapter provided witht he card and the SPDIF cable for pass through audio.
But is it the completely the same?
I have never owned an ATI card in my life. But I'm sold on the 5850 and I'll be picking up one for an msi platinum x58 sli as soon as newegg has them in stock.
then after the years end I'll be getting another one when the prices go down, or if they release a 5890 with an increased bus. who knows.. but the 5850 seems like a best buy right now. Looking forward to new eye candy with DX11 soon.
Look at the power RAWR
sapphire 5850 is instock at newegg:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...10380048 106793261&name=Radeon HD 5000 series
what about a cf of 5770?! its killair of 5870 and cheap
go buy it lol and be happy
there ya go its in stock for the time being
lol jared beat me but thats okay
ive heard mixed opinions of sapphire cards. anyone have something positive to say about previously owned sapphire products?
all reference design cards available right now are made in the same factory, just the sticker is of different quality
Like that MSI sticker?
what about a cf of 5770?! its killair of 5870 and he cheap?, the 5850 is a good oc? like my old 2900pro?
Killer of 5870? By far no. Crossfire is a good upgrade path, but it isn't worth the mess if you want 5870 performance.
The 5770s are 128-bit after all, and the bandwidth are exclusive to each card. 128-bit *2 is not 256-bit.
So at higher resolutions, 5770CF will perform closer to the 5850.
The HD5k series are better at OC overall compare to the 4ks.
The HD 5800s have volttera vrm which allows voltage control.
All my ATI cards have been sapphire and have all been decent and solid products.
voltage control built on the video card? the 4870 dont successful oc
but don't remove one or MSI voids your warranty
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