System crashes when using XMP profiles/Vendor Approved RAM profiles (CL16 3200); only stable at stock speeds (2133)

eidairaman1 · Nov 5, 2019

Chomiq said:
Now that I check the OP specs I seem to recall reading about Vengeance RGB kits being fiddly when it come to Ryzen, which was resolved with Vengeance RGB Pro SKU.

I stay away from them, i look at all other vendors.

Deleted member 185158 · Nov 5, 2019

The memory is fine. It runs 3200mhz as intended minus needing more voltage, which is restricted in the bios.
Dram calculator wont increase memory voltage. It will only be helpful to tweak tighter timings.
Needs a better motherboard or use as it is.
Not much we can do from here.

sneekypeet · Nov 5, 2019

I still wonder, after changing to the latest bios, if OP ever tried running them by enabling DOCP without the voltage addition.

PLSG08 · Nov 5, 2019

sneekypeet said:
I still wonder, after changing to the latest bios, if OP ever tried running them by enabling DOCP without the voltage addition.

What do you mean DOCP?

eidairaman1 said:
I stay away from them, i look at all other vendors.

What vendors do you suggest? I might just give these to my sis in the future since she's still on those cheap crucial 16gb 2400 sticks.

sneekypeet · Nov 5, 2019

PLSG08 said:
What do you mean DOCP?

AMDs version of XMP.

PLSG08 · Nov 5, 2019

sneekypeet said:
AMDs version of XMP.

no setting in the bios. Just XMP or Vendor approved DRAM profiles. Both w/c don't run stable unless I up the voltage to 1.4v

Melvis · Nov 21, 2019

On my 2700X System im running Ripjaws 3600MHz CL 14? I think by memory and I can not run it at its XMP profile at all with my 2700X, I have it clocked down to 3200 and its fully stable, I can get it to boot at 3433 and do a Cinebench run but in games it crashes.

My other system with the 1600X im running Corsair 3000MHz and I set the XMP profile for it and it runs perfect.

xtreemchaos · Nov 21, 2019

don't know if this will help but im running at 3466mhz @ 1.4v. cpu is a 2700x on a aorus elite.

ive been using at this speed for about a year, what I do is pic a speed and up the voltage until its stable.

eidairaman1 · Nov 21, 2019

PLSG08 said:
What do you mean DOCP?

What vendors do you suggest? I might just give these to my sis in the future since she's still on those cheap crucial 16gb 2400 sticks.

Gskill, patriot, crucial, mushkin

Check to ensure modules are in correct slots too.

John Naylor · Nov 21, 2019

PLSG08 said:
I haven't yet as I've read around that those voltages are kinda high. Are they safe voltages? I'll try em out with the XMP profile.

This is direct from Intel .... Seems AMD should be no different but other than forun postings I have never see anything from AMD directly. can't see why they'd have different limitations for the same product,

1.2V or lower = Best for DDR4
1.35V = okay voltage for overclocking kits
1.5V =absolute max voltage allowed for Intel XMP 2.0 profiles and max suggested voltage

DeathtoGnomes · Nov 21, 2019

PLSG08 said:
What vendors do you suggest?

the QVL list shows several vendors. The ones @eidairaman1 listed are the more common brands tested for the lists.

moproblems99 · Nov 21, 2019

PLSG08 said:
I noticed that when I use my RAM's XMP or ASrock approved profiles, my system is pretty unstable. Games and programs are crashing, BSODs, etc. But it boots into windows. I only noticed it now since it was the long weekend and all my games were crashing every 5 mins or sometimes BSODing out with different errors. So far resetting the Ram profile to stock is the only solution but It kinda sucks since I'm not really getting much out of it. (specially on a ryzen system)

I've tried using the Ryzen ram calculator and inputting them individually on the safe preset but the system doesn't boot with those settings. I can't really ask for an RMA or a replacement since I got these for second hand. Worst comes to worst I'd prolly sell these and buy some G.Skill ram or those newer Vengeance Pros, but I kinda want to figure out and see if i can find a setting that would allow me to use the rated speed of these sticks

Any help is appreciated. Thanks! (System specs are in my details)

Is it Corsair by any chance?

Edit:. Further reading says it is. There is seriously an issue with Corsair RAM and Ryzen. Even with BDie which are Ryzen friendly. Wonder what it is.

PLSG08 said:
my exact ram models is this: Corsair CMR32GX4M4C3200C16

VENGEANCE® RGB 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4 DRAM 3200MHz C16 Memory Kit

CORSAIR VENGEANCE RGB Series™ DDR4 memory modules are designed to provide an amazing look with built-in, hassle-free RGB lights, and offer superior overclocking performance.

www.corsair.com

I'm only using 2 sticks because I got it second hand and the seller is only using 16gb, so he sold 16gb.

please lets not make this anymore personal. I'm relatively new to a lot of these things (overlocking, voltages, etc) so I wanted to make sure that doing something is relatively safe for my system. View attachment 135585

These are the full Thaipoon reports.

The reason why I made the post is because the sticks boot into windows with the XMP profiles but programs and games crash with it. For now I've stabilized the system with the bump to 1.4V. The stock XMP profile had 1.35V as stock.

I would also like to ask is its ok for me to update my Mobo BIOS to the latest version. View attachment 135586

I'm already on 2.50, and AsRock warns against updating if I don't have Ryzen 3rd gen on it

many thanks again for the inputs guys! I'm really learning a lot, just please don't make it any more personal. I'm open to a lot of input regarding the matter

Cheers!

If AsRock does not recommend updating, I wouldn't. Unless this is a spare system that can be down if necessary.

sneekypeet said:
I still wonder, after changing to the latest bios, if OP ever tried running them by enabling DOCP without the voltage addition.

AsRock doesn't seem to differentiate between docp and xmp. It either does it behind the scenes when you select xmp or just uses xmp.

PLSG08 · Nov 22, 2019

Well since people are still adding info on this thread I thought I'd do a follow up.

I've updated my BIOS to the latest version and thankfully nothing bad happened. Been stable now since I bumped up the voltage to 1.4v (3200mhz@C16) and according to a Typhoon report they are bdies, but they're old b-dies w/c might contribute to me needing to bump up the voltage.
I also can't bump up the voltage more than 1.4v becuase the bios just stops me at 1.4v so I wouldn't push it past more. I might try going to 3400 and see if its stable then but that's not the priority.

Max speed supported by the mobo according to AsRock's site is 3533mhz on OC so yea 3600 might be a hard call specially for an old set like this. Still I'm going for system stability over pure speed so I'm happy with my settings now. As I said If given the chance, I might pick up a much more recent set of RAM and just hand these off to my sister as She's also planning on upgrading her intel system around next year.

Hopefully this thread helped a some that were also experiencing something similar.

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