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What happens when a TEC overheats? Look inside to see.

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sorry i don't know shiz about TEC.
 

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all the fans were connected together and just needed to be plugged into ONE 4 pin molex connecter :banghead:
YEah. Unfortunately, I didn't set the BIOS to resume power after a power outage, so they never kicked back on. :(

Should've waited for that relay kit to arrive. :shadedshu
 
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Sorry to read this dude :/
Hopefully your C2D isn't so dead :D They are warriors lol :D
 
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Yes, it does take time for the TEC to cool down, but it also takes time for the processor to heat up, the two happen at pretty much the same speed(the TEC actually cools down faster than the CPU heats up), which is why it is perfectly fine for the TEC to start at the same times as the rest of the computer.

The idle temp of -14C, while impressive, doesn't really actually matter. The important thing is what the TEC is doing for the processor under load, because that is when the processor is going to show its instability.
my load temperatures are 22C core0, 11C core1 @ 3ghz witrh voltage bumps
 

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Ouch plain ouch Wile E.

I hope that 2900 survived!
 

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since i feel so bad i went and found these if you want to do TEC again the fans wired to the tec cant screw that up

http://www.weirdstuff.com/cgi-bin/item/13206

they also have a tun of socket 370/7 stuff if anyone wants to go old school
 

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Thanks for that link. I at most only have to buy another TEC block tho. The TEC still works.
You should still be able to use the block part, you just need to buy a new top.

I would suggest lapping everything again, just to make sure it didnt warp.

Other than that... unless it melted, the block itself should be fine
 

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You should still be able to use the block part, you just need to buy a new top.

I would suggest lapping everything again, just to make sure it didnt warp.

Other than that... unless it melted, the block itself should be fine
Truth be told, I think you're right. It doesn't even really appear warped. I just don't know how I'm gonna get all the cooked on plastic off of it. lol

what a nightmare, I think I might stop by just to see the carnage for myself!!!
lol. When do you return from Aruba? (bastard) :laugh:
 
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lol. When do you return from Aruba? (bastard) :laugh:
mwahaha, tomorrow :( but real late, so basically tm is our last day
been great so far and have ended up even at the craps table ALL WEEK except last night!!! freaking crappy night...lost $300...bought in 100 each time and lost it all each time...table was just cold and kept expecting it to turn but didn't :(...got one more night to see if I can recover my losses or even come out ahead so wish me luck everyone!

and let's all wish wile e some luck getting his rig up and running again!!!

p.s. PM me if there's anything you need me to bring to help you get up and running again next week
 

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Damn.....that sucks bad. I am real sorry to hear that man. I hate it when I have a brain fart that costs me money.
 

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is that a burnt cap?
 

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Lol, I wouldn't let you near my Bar-B-Q man!

:laugh:

:eek:
Well, I had the TEC/water cooling, E4300, and eVGA 680i A1 up and running for all of a day. Didn't even get to overclock.

First, the explanation. I recently purchased d44ve's whole TEC setup, E4300, and the 680i, all for $400. As shown here: http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=36599

Well, after receiving it, and during setup, I spilled some Fuid XP into the Meanwell PSU. It took a little while, but I got it up and running again. Finally got it all put together and running last night. With one hitch, I didn't have a relay kit for the aux psu, so it was plugged directly into my power strip.

The Meanwell runs both pumps and the TEC, but the fans run on the main psu. I ordered a relay kit last night, to be on the safe side. I figured I would run it sans relay, until the kit arrived. I would just be careful to remember to shut off the power to the surge protector, whenever I shut down the computer. As I was about to find out, there was a major hole in my theory.

Earlier today, I fired it all up, and started my Windows updates. I then left to run some errands, leaving the computer to do it's thing. Well, apparently, the power went out while I was gone. It also returned, before I did. You're probably thinking, "what's the big deal?". Well, the computer was off, but the power strip's switch was still on. Meaning the Meanwell, and thus the TEC and pumps fired back up, but not the rad fans. Apparently, a 3x120mm rad cannot cool a 245W TEC passively.

I came home to a house filled with acrid smoke. It got so hot, it melted the acrylic top, the insulation around the socket AND the back of the board, the plastic bits of the socket itself, and it made the IHS come off the chip. What you may not be able to see in the photos, is that the cpu socket got so hot, it actually warped into a concave shape. And there are actually blisters in the top layers of the chip's pcb. I should also note, that I had to pry the chip from the socket with a screwdriver.

Also, when the acrylic top's seal let go, it sprayed the entire inside of my computer down with coolant. So my ram and 2900XT could also be dead. I think I might be ok in that respect tho, as there wasn't any power going to the 2900 and ram, due to the computer being off. I pulled apart the 2900 and cleaned it with non-residue contact cleaner, and I'm gonna let it dry for a few days, to be on the safe side.

I would be totally screwed, if my dad didn't offer to let me buy back the DFI and 6000+ combo I sold him. He decided to take the Intel plunge.

Needless to say, I don't think I'm gonna be messing with TEC again. Anyone want to buy a Meanwell 320W psu, and a Swiftech relay kit for it?

Here's the aftermath: (keep in mind, this is after I cleaned a good portion of the mess.)
 

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I just don't know how I'm gonna get all the cooked on plastic off of it. :
Try putting it in a 400F oven for a while.. plastic will get soft and you should be able to pull it off with pliers
 

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sorry to hear Wil E. Im hoping you TEC that 6000. If that thing could hit 4ghz...it would be something else.
 

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excuse my noobiness, what is a "TEC".
i don't see why you need to wait a week to test the 2900XT. anyway, sorry it happened! but you can't expect to overclock as a hobby without these things happening
 
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Holy wow.... First time I actually looked at this...

I'm getting close to looking at a TEC setup myself.
 
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excuse my noobiness, what is a "TEC".
i don't see why you need to wait a week to test the 2900XT. anyway, sorry it happened! but you can't expect to overclock as a hobby without these things happening
One side in a tec gets really really cold...you put that on the cpu:laugh:

Unfortunately the other side gets really really really hot...See post 1 for the aftermath of a TEC with no cooling:roll:

Good job wile :) at least you admitted it...I took a SERIOUS look at that like 20min after it went up and just couldn't hide that kinda purchase (wife has NOOO clue im on a quad :roll:)