What is the best Dual core AMD CPU and mobo on budget?

[suraswami]

i am not too sure if my BE is still alive that is why i want to get a new CPU i don't want to be having to wait for another one to get here if it isn't working and if it is then i can have fun benching 2 CPUs and try to get my 5kBE to 3.5ghz. so all in all i just want another CPU so i can play around with them.

if that is the case get that X2 2400BE. Guranteed 3 ghz with little bump in voltage. I bought that few weeks ago when egg had that $10 off coupon and on my other ECS home server it is running at 2.8G at default voltage and hit 3 with little bump.

So buy a good board that will support Deneb and use this little cpu to play around and may be keep it for flashing etc in the future.

 

[Fastmix]

Thats cool man. I'm somewhat of AMD fanboy myself i just had to get Intel for the overclocking experience.
Although as soon as Deneb comes out, I'll leave Intel...for a while.

Intel is like that slut you just want to bang. Shes for the players, and the desperate. While AMD is the girl you have been with for years, on an "on and off" term, but you love her to much to let her go.

Someone is in love.

 

[suraswami]

So, possible SLI eh POS?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813141010
May be worth a peak but I really REALLY like that Tforce, and theres a quite a few bad reviews of the board. May just be end-user error with 125W cpu's tho. That 8750 looks pretty nice too.

Not worth it. I would go with TForce, Asus or Giga for better OCing.

 

[btarunr]

This one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103272

 

[p_o_s_pc]

if that is the case get that X2 2400BE. Guranteed 3 ghz with little bump in voltage. I bought that few weeks ago when egg had that $10 off coupon and on my other ECS home server it is running at 2.8G at default voltage and hit 3 with little bump.

So buy a good board that will support Deneb and use this little cpu to play around and may be keep it for flashing etc in the future.

that is a good idea but people are missing the point... I want HIGHER SPEEDS OR HIGHER BENCHMARKs then i had with my 5kBE i don't something that will give me lower/same scores. I don't really care if the 8750 is a waste of money

 

[suraswami]

that is a good idea but people are missing the point... I want HIGHER SPEEDS OR HIGHER BENCHMARKs then i had with my 5kBE i don't something that will give me lower/same scores. I don't really care if the 8750 is a waste of money

Then go for the 3 aces blacky man, don't even ask

Damn man you are forcing me to go to Frys now to get a good board.

 

[p_o_s_pc]

Then go for the 3 aces blacky man, don't even ask

Damn man you are forcing me to go to Frys now to get a good board.

lol i'm not forcing you to but i am making you want one lol

 

[suraswami]

lol i'm not forcing you to but i am making you want one lol

tonight I am building a new pc for my wife with existing parts + the lovely 4850 VC. She promised me after 9pm that machine will be mine unless we both are playing online.

So now I am thinking I should just give my ECS + 9500 machine to her and build the 790FX + 3 aces + 4850 VC for me

 

[p_o_s_pc]

tonight I am building a new pc for my wife with existing parts + the lovely 4850 VC. She promised me after 9pm that machine will be mine unless we both are playing online.

So now I am thinking I should just give my ECS + 9500 machine to her and build the 790FX + 3 aces + 4850 VC for me

that would be a nice rig. from what i hear the 8750s have no problem pulling off 3ghz or more. AMD really improved there overclocking from the first X4 and X3

 

[Buster]

go for a brisbane core but with the G2 stepping , i've recently bought a new 5000+ brisby G2 and a 790x msi mobo goes to 3.4ghz at 1.45v only you have to watch out for the mosfets on this mobo !! , the 5000+ brisby is a winner in the am2 dual core series !!

 

[OzzmanFloyd120]

ok... what about the AMD 8750 tri core would it be faster then my 5kbe@3.2ghz? The good thing is that it would let me run my ram at its full 1066 speed.

The giga board I use lets me OC like a mad man (270+HT) and you can even set your divider to 5.33 so you can run your ram at 1066 without boosting your bus.

 

[p_o_s_pc]

go for a brisbane core but with the G2 stepping , i've recently bought a new 5000+ brisby G2 and a 790x msi mobo goes to 3.4ghz at 1.45v only you have to watch out for the mosfets on this mobo !! , the 5000+ brisby is a winner in the am2 dual core series !!

well i have the 5000+ black Edition and it doesn't get what i want. that is why i am looking for something higher

 

[p_o_s_pc]

The giga board I use lets me OC like a mad man (270+HT) and you can even set your divider to 5.33 so you can run your ram at 1066 without boosting your bus.

could you give me a link? Also what voltage can it give to CPU also what voltage to RAM?
my giga board let me do 300+HT before it shit its self

 

[OzzmanFloyd120]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128339

Ram does 2.2v max so far (kinda depressing, I know. I'm hoping the next bios update will help that)
As for CPU volts, I've had it up to 1.7v on my phenom, if I'm not mistaken you can push it all the way to .6v over stock.... you can drop it to .6 below stock too.

 

[p_o_s_pc]

thanks. i can't use that board then because the ram voltage has to be 2.2v for stock speeds so that would mean no overclocking the ram... yes i have to have that voltage to run stable at stock speeds i was wanting lower voltage but that is the lowest i could get stable on my old giga board.

 

[FooArm]

i would say 780G from foxcom and the 5400 black edition its like 140 bucks total

 

[DaMulta]

I have played with at least 5 different boards with the new AMD chipsets. With AMD the 790FX is the only way to go, the others have all sorts of missing settings.......

ASUS M3A79-T Deluxe AM2+/AM2 AMD 790FX ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
South Bridge: AMD SB750 $188.99

If you want crossfire



ASUS Crosshair II Formula AM2+/AM2 NVIDIA nForce 780a SLI HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail $289.99

If you want SLi(BTW this board looks just like my board ) There were talks about a 790chipset for AMD maybe that will come with AM3 but who knows(maybe they are waiting for DDR3 support)......This board would be the one for me, because it can do Tri SLi and should be able to run the AM3 chips(I've been reading).


AMD Phenom 8750 Toliman 2.4GHz 3 x 512KB L2 Cache 2MB L3 Cache Socket AM2+ 95W Triple-Core Black Edition Processor - Retail $134.00
I know it puts you over budget, but sometimes you need 2 lol. I still say wait for AM3 chips

But I'm telling you I have talked to a AMD chip desiger engineer, and of course never got a
definite answer but the 45nm the ones that will be out soon. Is the boom as AMD Quad when it comes to ocing I did get that out of him kind of. You know me I want the 4Ghz quad running in my boxes.

if your chip is dead buy the cheapest dual core there is and wait for AM3
AMD Athlon X2 4450e Brisbane 2.3GHz Socket AM2 45W Dual-Core Processor Model ADH4450DOBOX - Retail 58.99

 

[p_o_s_pc]

Thanks DaMulta it brings me way over budget by the time i get a PSU added in ($430 budget) so maybe the Asus board a good PSU and keep my 5kBE or pick up a 6k 89w chip then just try to hold out for the 45nm quads

 

[DaMulta]

Yea I know

I have updated the post above to what I really think.

The N chipset I think is the way to go, unless you want to run CF. I can't stand not running more than one card anymore. In COD4 with one card I get lag with all the smoke on high detail. With two cards that goes away.

I know money does not grow on tress, I wish it did

 

[p_o_s_pc]

Yea I know

I have updated the post above to what I really think.

The N chipset I think is the way to go, unless you want to run CF. I can't stand not running more than one card anymore. In COD4 with one card I get lag with all the smoke on high detail. With two cards that goes away.

I know money does not grow on tress, I wish it did

i game at 1280x1024 so my 1 8800GT will be fine for now, maybe volt mod it and aftermarket cooling

 

[DaMulta]

i game at 1280x1024 so my 1 8800GT will be fine for now, maybe volt mod it and aftermarket cooling

You should still want 2 8800GT cards. I don't care what anyone says about low(1280x1024 res) when you crank up the AA and other settings the 2 or 3 card really does help.





I was the one running 2x2900XT cards with a monitor that had that max res for quite some time. It helped.

 

[p_o_s_pc]

You should still want 2 8800GT cards. I don't care what anyone says about low(1280x1024 res) when you crank up the AA and other settings the 2 or 3 card really does help.





I was the one running 2x2900XT cards with a monitor that had that max res for quite some time. It helped.

Thanks. by the time a voltmod can't get me the settings i want i will be upgrading. I never even turn the AA on so that doesn't matter. I personally can't see the difference between having AA cranked up and having it off but that is just me.I am kinda thinking about getting the 790FX and using my 8800GT then when i get the money upgrading the card to what ATI card i can get at the time then if ATI doesn't have PhysX by then just use the 8800GT for physX

 

[johnspack]

If your thinking of the 8750, I just noticed on ncix that the 125w 9950 is only 30 bucks more. I'm considering it.....

 

[DaMulta]

I still don't know if you will be able to mix the two for PhysX if you can without issue more power to the people that do it. I just think it's less trouble to have the real deal and have 2 of the cards that's guaranteed to be able to do it without problems.

I would put down some money that next years games REALLY start using PhysX.


You can't tell the difference when you crank up AA all the way? lol.

 

[p_o_s_pc]

I still don't know if you will be able to mix the two for PhysX if you can without issue more power to the people that do it. I just think it's less trouble to have the real deal and have 2 of the cards that's guaranteed to be able to do it without problems.

I would put down some money that next years games REALLY start using PhysX.


You can't tell the difference when you crank up AA all the way? lol.

no i can't. my friends say they can but i just don't see it.