Whats better P43/P45/X38/X48 ?

viczulis · Apr 7, 2009

Hey guys/gals looking for a new motherboard. My main rig has gotten to big / heavy to take on the road with me.

I've been taking my Indians rig, which is a Gigabyte 965P-S3 board with a E6850 CPU. I can not OC this board at all. Any changes in bios (OCing) will not post. :banghead:

I have an E8400 laying around and I'm looking for a decent motherboard that I can overclock for 100.00 to 150.00. and to abuse the hell out of :laugh:

So what would be the best board for price range from P43-P45- X38 - X48 And why.

Thanks :toast:

Suijin · Apr 7, 2009

From memory I don't believe there is much of a difference in those particular chipsets in overclockability/performance. P35 was pretty good if you got a decent board. X48 didn't really overclock any better I don't think by reviews I read. I'm not really familiar with the P43-P45 range other than aren't they lower tier versions of the X48? I believe you need to go up to the i7 before your performance really gets that much better.

I have an abit P35 pro and it's supposed to be good at overclocking, I haven't gotten around to it. I keep using it and don't want to take the time out from using it to overclock it properly (money is tight now too, I have a crappy video card and don't see the point in overclocking with that in there). Other versions of the 35 chipset were also good, I had an MSI crap out on me in about 20 minutes after building system though. I would have to look up boards to get any other specific board models though.

grunt_408 · Apr 7, 2009

P35 is a good overclocking platform if you dont want to spend much money and dont want to do crossfire. If you want crossfire get x48. I have a GA-P35DS3P rev 1.1 in my old system its a good board but looking back when I got it I should have gone for better chipset cooling that the rev 2.0 had.

Sir_Real · Apr 7, 2009

As for a mobo any of the asus P5Q range are good mobos. Loads of overclocking options in the bios & most the P5Q boards have the powerful P45 chipset. Ideal for a gamming pc !

The Intel X** & P** chipsets are basicly the same. Bout the only differece is the X** range chipsets are designed for SLi boards & the P** range for crossfire. As far as i'm aware thats correct.

allen337 · Apr 7, 2009

that 965p s3 has a new bios you can download to use the 1333 fsb processors with like the e8400

LagunaX · Apr 7, 2009

asus p5q pro - high fsb little vdroop

ShadowFold · Apr 7, 2009

P45, specifically the P5Q-PRO. High FSB, Crossfire, and stable.

cdawall · Apr 7, 2009

Sir_Real said:
As for a mobo any of the asus P5Q range are good mobos. Loads of overclocking options in the bios & most the P5Q boards have the powerful P45 chipset. Ideal for a gamming pc !

The Intel X** & P** chipsets are basicly the same. Bout the only differece is the X** range chipsets are designed for SLi boards & the P** range for crossfire. As far as i'm aware thats correct.

no the X series outside of the X58 is crossfire only.

P5Q-Pro is a damn good mobo b/c it can push a high FSB and has good BIOS.

technicks · Apr 7, 2009

Yes the wisest choice would be to pick up a P45 board. And like Shadowfold said the Asus P5Q Pro would be a excellent choice.

[I.R.A]_FBi · Apr 8, 2009

mudkip · Apr 8, 2009

What a bullshit recommendations.

P35 is the older mainstream chipset with ICH9(R)
P45 is the newest mainstream chipset with ICH10(r) also it has PCI-16x 2.0 , the p35 only had pci-e x16 also the P45 has official 1600FSB support.
P43 chipset is supposed to be the same as the P45 but has reduced features. They have a FSB wall and they're not recommended for overclocking .
X38 was the older highend chipset with 2 x full PCI-e 16x 2.0 for crossfire
X48 was actually the same but had official 1600FSB support.

Intel chipsets for S775 don't support SLI only crossfire.
Only the X58 chipset supports SLI and Crossfire.

If you don't want to run full crossfire you should go for the P45.

There are a few differences between P45 , you should look for these things:

-Compatibly with Mem etc.
-Overclock capabilities , search for reviews!
-Lay out
-Amount of ''phases'' for better overclocking experience
Well.. things like that.

From my personal experience I'd recommend you a Gigabyte P45 motherboard because they use high quality components and have good support for their BIOS'es. Also they're very good overclockers and they use a nice on-board soundchip Realtek 889a which delivers superb sound quality.

dark2099 · Apr 8, 2009

Just to help a bit on the differences of each chipset that I know. In terms of overclocking, P45 has done the best, but a few specific models of the other chipsets (P35, X38, X48) are known to OC well. Now for crossfire, the P35 chipset can support it, generally at 16x,4x with both running at PCI-E 1.x speeds, although a few boards do support 8x,8x. From there the P45, X38, and X48 chipsets all support full PCI-E 2.0, but the P45 does crossfire at 8x,8x and the X38 and X48 do full 16x,16x. None of the boards support SLi. That is about all I can contribute, wouldn't be surprised if there was more than I listed.

Error 404 · Apr 8, 2009

I do appear to have a bit of a FSB wall on my MSI P43 Neo-F, but I think that might be the CPU as well; the E5200 C0 stepping has a low FSB wall as well. This afternoon I'll see if I can push past it though.
P43 is quite good for budget gaming, but P45 or X48 would definitely be much better.

CarolinaKSU · Apr 8, 2009

I've got the P5Q-Deluxe and I absolutely love it. Rock solid and stable, great for overclocking. I have yet to really figure out what the difference is between the P5Q Deluxe and P5Q-Pro, but they are both P45 and you wouldn't be disappointed with either.

viczulis · Apr 8, 2009

Yea looking at the P5Q Pro its looking pretty good :toast:

Yea I'm not looking to cross fire new board I'll just take one of my 4870s out of main rig.

@allen 337 yea I know the motherboard will handle 8400 but it wont overclock at all. Tried all updates.
:rockout:

viczulis · Apr 8, 2009

Yea I'm holding off on X58 , waiting for price drops and bugs out. My X48 rampage plays everything out there and OCed to 4.10 Hell the 965P-DS3 is a good board just wont overclock.

I plan on selling that board and the E6850 soon

viczulis · Apr 8, 2009

or trade both for the Pro ...... Any one.......... two for one LOL have to try

4x4n · Apr 8, 2009

The best board out there for around $100 is the Gigagyte EP45-UD3P. Get one, you wont be disappointed. Newegg link $115 after rebate

unclewebb · Apr 8, 2009

viczulis said:
Hell the 965P-DS3 is a good board just wont overclock.

That's odd. I had one of the early DS3 boards and it was one of the simplest boards ever to overclock. I took an E6300 up to 7.0 x 472 MHz without much effort at all and that was with Micron DDR2-667 RAM. These boards were a little picky with ram but worked great with Micron D9.

Give the Northbridge some voltage and put a small fan on that huge cooler if you have to. There's lots of potential in this board.

francis511 · Apr 8, 2009

unclewebb said:
That's odd. I had one of the early DS3 boards and it was one of the simplest boards ever to overclock. I took an E6300 up to 7.0 x 472 MHz without much effort at all and that was with Micron DDR2-667 RAM. These boards were a little picky with ram but worked great with Micron D9.

Give the Northbridge some voltage and put a small fan on that huge cooler if you have to. There's lots of potential in this board.

I had one of those boards and it oc`ed great (until it blew up !!)

ShogoXT · Apr 8, 2009

I agree, Gigabyte P45 mobo.

Hicks · Apr 8, 2009

4x4n said:
The best board out there for around $100 is the Gigagyte EP45-UD3P. Get one, you wont be disappointed. Newegg link $115 after rebate

QFT!

Best out there 4 sure in that price range!! clock quads & dual's like mad.

mrhuggles · Apr 8, 2009

p35 hands down, why? well, thats easy... memory bandwidth is limited by the FSB, p35 can out clock any of those, by a whole lot too
its crossfire compatible i have a asus p5k, 1 16x port and 1 4x port that is in the shape of a 16x port so you can use a videocard in it. a lot of people are under the impression that the second port being 4x limits performance... you can probably look on the 3dmark06 results and see if thats true or not easily enough.
at any rate, i would be happy to put my rig up against any core2duo [dual core] rig with another chipset, even tho my cpu only has 1mb total cache... it can out clock them by enough to make it work the only down side is my best videocard is a 2900xt which even at 900mhz isn't all that impressive.

cdawall · Apr 8, 2009

mrhuggles said:
p35 hands down, why? well, thats easy... memory bandwidth is limited by the FSB, p35 can out clock any of those, by a whole lot too
its crossfire compatible i have a asus p5k, 1 16x port and 1 4x port that is in the shape of a 16x port so you can use a videocard in it. a lot of people are under the impression that the second port being 4x limits performance... you can probably look on the 3dmark06 results and see if thats true or not easily enough.
at any rate, i would be happy to put my rig up against any core2duo [dual core] rig with another chipset, even tho my cpu only has 1mb total cache... it can out clock them by enough to make it work the only down side is my best videocard is a 2900xt which even at 900mhz isn't all that impressive.

P45 out clocks P35 and has PCI-e 2.0 8x/8x crossfire

mrhuggles · Apr 8, 2009

p45 out clocks p35? really? so it can run DDR2 1200mhz 24/7 at 1:1 ratio?

600mhz fsb

that is very impressive and i am eager to see these p45s in action

EDIT: http://xtreview.com/addcomment-id-4168-view-MSI-P35-Diamond-700-MHz-fsb.html

i got my eyes on the e8200 [7x multiplier] for great 1:1 ratio`ed memory speed

oops i mean Q8200

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