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Where does the GTX 1070 Ti Fall

Will keep it stock as it's not for me. trying to upgrade the wifes rig and daughters rigs. Both are at 1920x1200 60Hz
It'll be perfectly fine for that. My 1070 in my media rig drives 4k and plays at 1080/1440 with zero issues at all.
 
I'm not looking at a 6600 and don't plan to.
So you basically gave up on your previous plan?


My suggestion is that you save up until you can purchase replacement GPUs that actually provide significant gain. While you're waiting the MSRPs might come down more.

From where I stand, it doesn't look like you're currently in a financial position to make GPU purchases right now that will result in noteworthy performance increases for your wife and daughter's usage cases.
 
Will keep it stock as it's not for me. trying to upgrade the wifes rig and daughters rigs. Both are at 1920x1200 60Hz
I'm gonna call that a no brainer then. Get it.
 
So you basically gave up on your previous plan?


My suggestion is that you save up until you can purchase replacement GPUs that actually provide significant gain. While you're waiting the MSRPs might come down more.

From where I stand, it doesn't look like you're currently in a financial position to make GPU purchases right now that will result in noteworthy performance increases for your wife and daughter's usage cases.
You say neither would be a significant gain but honestly anything current is a huge upgrade for them as they only have a GTX 960 and GTX 670

and no I didn’t. If you read my last message in that thread I had bought a RX 6600 but I still need one more GPU and at $200 the 1070Ti didn’t seem like a bad deal.
 
TPU has all the resources you'll need :)

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And sorry, but now to go off topic ....
I know that it's a hot take, but DLSS doesn't really matter. It's not some magic cure for low fps and its upscaling is still not great. If you need more performance, you are still much better off just turning down settings or resolution...... DLSS (which tanks quality)..... FSR (it sucks too, but so does DLSS)....
DLSS is supersampling (with downscaling resolution low and then reconstructing it with AI, so no surprise that it looks bad) not antialiasing. And it looks worse than FXAA and it way slower than FXAA.
Another hot take (your words) from someone who doesn't have an RTX card and use it themselves, is what I'm seeing here.

It is not the same as turning down settings or resolution, and neither of those are universally a better choice.
More often than not it doesn't tank quality (depending on oh-so-many factors), most people find it imperceptible, and it's often found to look better in some areas.
DLSS is also antialiasing.
DLSS actually matters to a wonderful degree if you know what you're doing.
Exactly. I do tire of hearing by far the strongest criticisms of DLSS, coming from people who don't use it.

And no, you can't grow an opinion that holds much water from reading articles, looking at stills and watching YT comparisons. You need hours of hands on experience, seeing it rendered live with your own eyes, playing with settings, seeing what works and what doesn't, tuning the experience, trying it across multiple games and DLL's, combing it with DLDSR, and so on.

If you do own a card and want to share your thoughts, I'd encourage you to join the discussion here, those without RTX cards needn't bother.
 
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You say neither would be a significant gain but honestly anything current is a huge upgrade for them as they only have a GTX 960 and GTX 670

and no I didn’t. If you read my last message in that thread I had bought a RX 6600 but I still need one more GPU and at $200 the 1070Ti didn’t seem like a bad deal.

For 200$ that does sound like a good deal, where I live the second hand 1070 Ti still goes for around 300+ $ for whatever average model.
I paid ~350$ for my 1070 non Ti back in 2021 August and at the time that was cheap-ish price here.

Upgrading from those 2 cards will definitely be noticeable, I upgraded from a RX 570 and it was a nice boost in some of the games I play.
 
It'll work since they play down 1920x1200 60 indeed. But if you can, I'd recommend you towards getting them a relatively cheap high refresh rate monitor. It's a day night difference and the better cards would shine higher down there. I'm personally not keen on buying somebody's old card when you can buy a better, new card (even for $120 more), knowing you have the budget as well. So I'd re-iterate and suggest the 6600 one more time. :)

Above, EU second hand market = / = U.S second hand market. Clearly a no.
 
Honestly really depends how much it's going to cost you....I am also lurking around and thinking about to get 1070 TI or maybe 1080 or possibly RTX 2060 for myself 'tho I am pretty sure that price will go down soon as AMD release their latest GPU"refresh" .....

GREEN 1080p Performance
YELLOW 1440p Performance
RED 4k Performance
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This is Average (FPS)gaming performance to see full chart click HERE
 
id say its a snip at $200 just behind a 1080 as good with a overclock about = with a 3060 maybe a tad slower.
 
I'd actually ask the questions of whether you know the full history of this card or not. It might have been used for mining, even if not, it's likely been used for a long time. So it's technically somebody's dusty hill. It might look good price-wise on paper, but in the end old products will haunt you worse one way or another. Technologically and physically, the new card is just better. Chances are the TIM on the old card is done and again, it'll lack worse in some other areas. You'll save some bucks, but at the cost of buying a product that's been used 3+ years, with more noise / heat.
 
I'd actually ask the questions of whether you know the full history of this card or not. It might have been used for mining, even if not, it's likely been used for a long time. So it's technically somebody's dusty hill. It might look good price-wise on paper, but in the end old products will haunt you worse one way or another. Technologically and physically, the new card is just better. Chances are the TIM on the old card is done and again, it'll lack worse in some other areas. You'll save some bucks, but at the cost of buying a product that's been used 3+ years, with more noise / heat.

Personally I don't mind buying used GPUs as long as the seller seems reasonable and I know the history/condition of the card or even try it out.
So far my second hand RX 570 that was admittedly a miner card for ~6 months from the previous mining craze era worked for me for almost 3 years after and then I sold it to someone else in 2021 September.
I did replace the thermal pads and paste just to feel safer about selling it and as a personal policy of mine to not sell bad/questionable stuff.

Supposedly my current GTX 1070 was a gamer card and I met the person face to face to buy it, he gave me the box and every accessory it came with originally + told me that he replaced the pads+paste.
Card had no visible damage to it or anything so I went for it, I have it in my PC since 2021 August and so far no issues and the temps/noise levels are good.

My brother is also using an old Gigabyte Xtreme GTX 970 second hand bought like 5 years ago and it still works.

Ofc given a minimal price diff vs new I would also pick the new card simply because of our 2-3 years warranty policy but if I can get a better card for even cheaper on the second hand market I will most likely go for that if its not shady.
 
You didn't read where OP said he can get it for 200. I swear you enjoy missing key details in threads.
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Nope he said he was offered one and one being a 1070ti
OP has a question in buy/ sell or trade so yeah who didn't read the op :laugh:

Op is about performance of 1070ti which has already been addressed
Same bs though
1070ti is good for some things but is now 5 years old, if it was at evga b-stock I'd say snatch it up these would have a 1 year warranty

3050 will be good for some things and only 50 bucks more +tax and New so call that 10 per year for new item/ and 3 year warranty clearly this is the bestbuy no pun intended :cool:
 
Being with in 5% margin of a card that is 5 years newer, and is considerably less in price I'd say go for it @Durvelle27 or a Radeon Equivalent.
 
Another hot take (your words) from someone who doesn't have an RTX card and use it themselves, is what I'm seeing here.

It is not the same as turning down settings or resolution, and neither of those are universally a better choice.
More often than not it doesn't tank quality (depending on oh-so-many factors), most people find it imperceptible, and it's often found to look better in some areas.
DLSS is also antialiasing.

Exactly. I do tire of hearing by far the strongest criticisms of DLSS, coming from people who don't use it.
Well, I tried FSR and it was crap. I have looked a lot at DLSS and I still can't see it as anything else other than crutch to make performance better at loss of visual quality. There's only so much that you can reconstruct with AI. AI still sucks and it mostly reconstructs sharpness, but details tend to be gone. DLSS, FSR are basically the equivalent of lossy compression, but for gaming. It's definitely not a new technology to add detailedness. They are only trying to not take away much, but improve performance.
 
Well, I tried FSR and it was crap. I have looked a lot at DLSS and I still can't see it as anything else other than crutch to make performance better at loss of visual quality. There's only so much that you can reconstruct with AI. AI still sucks and it mostly reconstructs sharpness, but details tend to be gone. DLSS, FSR are basically the equivalent of lossy compression, but for gaming. It's definitely not a new technology to add detailedness. They are only trying to not take away much, but improve performance.

You lose bit of quality but at the cost of much better performance. It's a winner at heavier resolutions to maintain higher ref. Also, very slowly but there's DLAA which is a great demonstration of AI.

Your experience with FSR is really unrelated, AI has advanced to a point where you can take an image with an Nvidia GPU, and re-construct it in much better means. There have been tools for this kind of stuff in the recent months.
 
I see people saying the RTX 3050 but thing is you can't find it in stock atm and the ones in stock are running $300+ which puts it near the RX 6600 at $329. EVGA sells a RTX 3050 for $249 but it's hardly in stock and no stores carry that model
 
I see people saying the RTX 3050 but thing is you can't find it in stock atm and the ones in stock are running $300+ which puts it near the RX 6600 at $329. EVGA sells a RTX 3050 for $249 but it's hardly in stock and no stores carry that model

With that point you might as well go RX6600. So a 1070ti or Radeon equivalent might be your best action.
 
You say neither would be a significant gain but honestly anything current is a huge upgrade for them as they only have a GTX 960 and GTX 670

and no I didn’t. If you read my last message in that thread I had bought a RX 6600 but I still need one more GPU and at $200 the 1070Ti didn’t seem like a bad deal.
Thank you for the update and answering my question.

The reason for asking the question is most people who ask for advice often take action but don't follow up summarizing what they did. This isn't specific to TPU but pretty much everywhere on the Internet for everything: cooking, home repair, Linux system administration, buying cameras, et cetera.

I don't remember what every single person posted in every single thread so it's possible that any given person might have posted a follow up elsewhere. This happens rather frequently. Some people essentially ask the same question multiple times in different threads and don't summarize where they stand based on what comments they have been provided in other discussions.

As for going around in circles about the RX 6600, why don't you explicitly state something like "I have an RX 6600, am familiar with its capabilities but am looking to buy something cheaper for more modest performance"? That would have saved you and many commenters here dozens of minutes of time typing and reading. If you made that statement in your original inquiry, there would be half the number of comments yet they would be far more focused and helpful.

Nowhere in this thread do you explicitly state a budget even though that appears to be your primary consideration. The most logical place would have been the initial post with something like "I'm upgrading a PC with a Dodgy Bros. UltraMax MF 420 Xi for a user who doesn't game much other than a few hours of Magic The Gathering per week. I've been offered a 1070 Ti in ____ condition for ____ dollars from a seller with ____ reputation. Can I do better with a maximum budget limit of $____?"

Like I said, not everyone here has memorized every single post you've made and saying "well I mentioned it in this or that thread" is meaningless since you could have easily changed your budget up or down.

One thing I do note is that extracting information out of some people is like pulling teeth.

As for DLSS, it works better when outputting at higher resolutions because you have more pixels to start with. DLSS Balanced or DLSS Quality often works great for Ultra 4K gaming. DLSS image quality does suffer noticeably at lower resolutions like 1080p. I have an RTX 3050 driving a 1080p display but I don't game on that build.

You have been provided enough information in this thread about where the 1070 Ti stands relative to other graphics cards, both current generation products and older models. At this point it's up to you to say "Yes, I will spend my money on this" or "No, I will wait for something else."
 
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Nope he said he was offered one and one being a 1070ti
OP has a question in buy/ sell or trade so yeah who didn't read the op :laugh:

Op is about performance of 1070ti which has already been addressed
Same bs though
1070ti is good for some things but is now 5 years old, if it was at evga b-stock I'd say snatch it up these would have a 1 year warranty

3050 will be good for some things and only 50 bucks more +tax and New so call that 10 per year for new item/ and 3 year warranty clearly this is the bestbuy no pun intended :cool:
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Denser than lead.

They basically said they're being offered a 1070Ti for $200
 
IDK what's so dense here, as the reasons to this card not being the best purchase were given clearly in the later posts. It costs $200 because it's been used for who knows how long. If you're fine with dusty stuff, that's OK but I prefer to make better purchases than used stuff. I don't want to nitpick but I feel like the extra paid on the 6600 would still be worth it.
 
For sure the extra on a 6600 would be worth, but if the 1070ti does the job for less and it works, why not?
 
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