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Who'll be the better president?

Who'll be the better president?

  • Barack Obama

    Votes: 1,290 57.9%
  • John McCain

    Votes: 333 14.9%
  • But I want George W. Bush

    Votes: 177 7.9%
  • Don't care

    Votes: 429 19.2%

  • Total voters
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Mccain is a War mongering POS just like bush and he is paid off by oil company lobyists just like bush. Mccain will be the downfall of America if elected. Period.

Also, I'm pro guns and pro abortion. I hate People who want to ban abortion with a passaion to fu*king kill. Oh your pro life but you kill innocent doctors by bombing abortion clinics fu*king hippocrits...
If you're against abortion you hate women.

My other point is that Mccain is to stupid to be president for fu*ks sake look who he chose as his VP......

Also Religion is the cancer that is stopping the human race from progressing forward in technology. You idiots are reading a book that was writen OVER 2000 years ago by MAN, NOT GOD, MAN. Jesus was a rock star of his time.

Yeah obama will raise tax's BUT GUESS WHAT? YOU WILL NEVER EVEN NOTICE IT.

My rant, I hope I offended as many people as possible. This is the most trolling post I have EVER made. If mccain wins....its all over.

Oh and You'll never F**king guess who I work for.

Fance has the "best" healthcare system. Largely, it depends on what the criteria is. For instance, there is no better place in the world to get treatment for cancer than the USA.


Medicare/Medicaid and Social Security are benefit systems and they are both sinking ships.

As previously stated by DaMulta, we have three tiers of roads: local (connecting houses and businesses), state (connecting towns), and federally maintained (connecting states). The federal system is paid for by taxes on fuel and vehicles.


Yeah, we do but most of are only paid on services we use. Heh, no paying for something like the BBC even if you never watch it.


McCain is far from a war monger. He knows the ugliness of a war from first-hand experience. He also knows that war sometimes isn't optional. He has said time and time again that he hates war and avoids it if at all possible.

I wouldn't call Bush a warmonger either. He based a decision to go to war on bad intelligence. It could have happened to any President. You have to work with the information you do have and try to make the best judgement from that. Obviously sometimes the intelligence is right (like finding Hussein and Hussein's sons), sometimes it is wrong (Iraq in possession of WMDs). You have to play the hand you are dealt.

About the only politician in the last 10+ years not to get paid off by lobbyists is McCain...



Actually, he is quite intelligent. That's been debated already.

He chose Palin because he wanted to. McCain loves surprises and no one was predicting that move in the weeks before the RNC. It definitely wasn't the safest pick but he didn't chose her for that reason. McCain has said time and time again that he would "rather lose an election than lose a war." Palin is very similar in that she would rather lose a job than see corruption prosper. There aren't many politicians out there that make a carreer out of bucking the system--these two are the expection (can't forget Liberman too, of course).



Tell that to the people that will be paying $700,000 more in taxes than they already do...



Obama's campaign?

the hamburglar?

Someone who swears a lot? :p

I work for a branch of the government that wouldnt exist if it wernt for bush
 
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Which tax was Mike Chucklebee talking about? Fair Tax or Flat Tax? Whichever one is 24% or something. Palin, being inexperienced at National politics isnt really a disadvantage. I think foreign governments wouldnt mind dealing with her on key issues. Ive said for awhile now that I think Washington may need a change of tact and go with younger, less experienced people than lifelong politicians (Biden, McCain, etc). Being a governor tends to, at least in my opinion and experience, lead a person to be a better president. Granted a governor is over a state and the president over 50 states plus DC and a couple territories.
She has more experience at being an executive than Obama...yet watch the schrill democrats do everything they can to demagogue her... What OBAMA did 10 years ago with Bill Ayres is not pertanent, but what She did 10 years ago has to be microscoped... How f*d is that?:banghead:

Oh - Huck was for the FAIR TAX.
 
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I work for a branch of the government that wouldnt exist if it wernt for bush

TSA or just the armed forces? Because democrats think national defense is not worth the money, but creating an entitlement class who'll vote for them forever IS.
 
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Where has obama said he is going to cut the Department of homeland securitys budget? We have allready been funded for another year. Obama will not disband DHS/TSA other wise he'll be risking another 9/11.
 
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Where has obama said he is going to cut the Department of homeland securitys budget? We have allready been funded for another year. Obama will not disband DHS/TSA other wise he'll be risking another 9/11.

You hear Biden yesterday? He thinks if we ELECT obama we're going to be "tested"...

 

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You hear Biden yesterday? He thinks if we ELECT obama we're going to be "tested"...


Where going to be tested with either or with our new president. That's what he was talking about, because the economy is in such a fing mess right now.
 
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TSA or just the armed forces? Because democrats think national defense is not worth the money, but creating an entitlement class who'll vote for them forever IS.

Entitlement? $850 billion to the rich sounds like entitlement when it comes to all costs associated with the bail out. Voting republican after the last eight years is the definition of being a tool. Now is the dumbest time to complain about poor people receiving food stamps after the bail out.

Saying Obama is increasing taxes is wrong and idiotic. Look at the numbers posted in graphs in this thread alone. Obama is proposing a tax cut and so is McCain. Obama is doing it for the people struggling the most and McCain is cutting taxes for those struggling the least. If you don't like the reality of the situation is doesn't give you the right to lie to people.
 
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Where going to be tested with either or with our new president. That's what he was talking about, because the economy is in such a fing mess right now.

No.
He's talking about an international incident.
He's talking about terrorism, or something similar, because obama is a weak nuts fool.

During the primaries Biden had it right. Obama is NO WHERE NEAR ready to lead. (well, maybe to lead some kinder in song....)
 
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Entitlement? $850 billion to the rich sounds like entitlement when it comes to all costs associated with the bail out. Voting republican after the last eight years is the definition of being a tool. Now is the dumbest time to complain about poor people receiving food stamps after the bail out.

Saying Obama is increasing taxes is wrong and idiotic. Look at the numbers posted in graphs in this thread alone. Obama is proposing a tax cut and so is McCain. Obama is doing it for the people struggling the most and McCain is cutting taxes for those struggling the least. If you don't like the reality of the situation is doesn't give you the right to lie to people.
Yeah, go get a job from one of those people who's struggling, after the small business (who files his business income as personal.... )can't afford to keep you on anymore because of the tax rape of Herr Obama.
 
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Yeah, go get a job from one of those people who's struggling, after the small business (who files his business income as personal.... )can't afford to keep you on anymore because of the tax rape of Herr Obama.

Filing as personal is idiotic for those making more than $180,000 a year. Obama's tax cuts are better than McCain's for everyone making less than $250,000. Its like people can't afford to pay attention. :laugh:


I gotta run though. Nice talking to you. ;)
 

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How about the fact that malignant melanoma (the cancer he had on his cheek) has a very high chance of reoccurring, or the fact that he still won't make his 1,200 page medical history public (yes he gave SELECT reporters one hour to look at it, but they couldn't copy or scan any information). Obama's report by the way, is public and is one page long.....
McCain has been cancer free for 6 years. It wasn't "reporters," it was a panel of certified medical doctors. The 1,200 pages are his entire medical history from the past 8 years. Obama's doctor wrote a one page summary--no historical records at all. McCain has been the most open with his medical history of anyone ever running for President. It's Obama that needs to step up to the plate.

Note he dosen't even have to die, he just has to be unfit to run the office for whatever reason. Ex: say the cancer comes back and claim's his lower jaw. That would be enough.
The President gets a daily physical by a resident physician at the White House. It is unlikely for the cancer to recur at this point but should it, they will have it removed immediately. The only time cancer is a serious problem is if it spreads to organs.


Which tax was Mike Chucklebee talking about? Fair Tax or Flat Tax?
Fair tax. McCain said that if a fair tax bill landed on his desk as the President, he would sign it.


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Homeland Security?


Obama is proposing a tax cut and so is McCain. Obama is doing it for the people struggling the most and McCain is cutting taxes for those struggling the least.
Obama is going to raise taxes on employers and give people that don't even pay taxes a cut (80% of the poplation). McCain is going to lower taxes for everyone--not be choosy about it (100% of the population).
 
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Hows that now?
The graph clearly shows anyone making 111646 or more benefits more from MCCain, not Osocialist.

It's more to your advantage to file personal - at least under the current tax code, than as a corporation if your income is less than 500k

and this is more of the SHIT that the democrat socialists in congress have been cooking up, but unable to get past with slim Senate majority and a Republican white house:
May 14, 2007, 7:39 pm
Grassley Predicts Huge Tax Increase on Wealthy

Sarah Lueck reports on the AMT.

As House Democrats move toward unveiling a proposal to permanently fix the alternative minimum tax, Republican Sen. Charles Grassley predicted the income tax rate for the wealthiest Americans would have to jump to 46% from 35% to offset the cost.

Democrats are trying to change the AMT to shield all households earning less than $250,000 from paying it. Grassley, in a floor statement today, said the result would be a shocking tax increase for the wealthy.

House Democrats, led by House Ways and Means Chairman Charles Rangel and Rep. Richard Neal (D., Mass.), aren’t considering such a large increase in the top tax rate, but they are talking about raising it. In addition, the plan would require taxpayers with incomes between $250,000 and $500,000 to continue paying the AMT, albeit in lower amounts than they have in the past.

Democrats have yet to publicly unveil details of their proposal. They characterize it as helping 87 million people by rescuing many from the AMT and beefing up tax credits geared toward those with lower and middle incomes and raising taxes on about one million.
 

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No.
He's talking about an international incident.
He's talking about terrorism, or something similar, because obama is a weak nuts fool.

During the primaries Biden had it right. Obama is NO WHERE NEAR ready to lead. (well, maybe to lead some kinder in song....)

LOL if your not watching the world falling in front of your eyes, and are to nieve to think that could start a world war like it did with WW2.

Obama is very ready to lead, if you have not read about what he as done to believe that then I don't know what to tell you.
 

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Obama is very ready to lead, if you have not read about what he as done to believe that then I don't know what to tell you.
What's the biggest group of people he ever had to lead and be held personally accountable for actions good and bad? I'm not talking Senatorial duties or appearing before crowds either
 
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Id vote for ya reven an Ozzie in charge of the states :D
 
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LOL if your not watching the world falling in front of your eyes, and are to nieve to think that could start a world war like it did with WW2.

Obama is very ready to lead, if you have not read about what he as done to believe that then I don't know what to tell you.

Ready to lead ACORN to drive people falsly to the polls... ready to endorse Ayres book, ready to lead the country down the big flusher... yeah, he's ready.... to lead us to more crap than we're in right now.
 
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Id vote for ya reven an Ozzie in charge of the states :D

Mordoch already owns half the republicans with their news sources. Might as well give reven the rest of them. :laugh:
 
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and George Soros, moveon.org, and the main stream media are all in the pocket of Barry O... seems like it's 90/10 in favor of the Socialists, there, Daedalus...
 

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What's the biggest group of people he ever had to lead and be held personally accountable for actions good and bad? I'm not talking Senatorial duties or appearing before crowds either

From where he went to school, to the class he was teaching for so many years, to what duties he did before he became a senator. I think the man is smart, and ready to lead. His VP is very well informed with the world and will work with him.

Palin on the other hand, I just don't see how she can help over seas. If Clinton would of been chosen to be VP she would of have at least met and known world leaders.
 

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http://cbs2chicago.com/local/obama.event.grant.2.846677.html

It's in the bag as far as the Obama ppl are concerned. Grant Park in November, brrrrrrr with his 'Righteous Wind At Our Backs' http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/10/obama-tells-vir.html
It's not over til it's over. Remember, there are upwards of 6 million people eligible to vote overseas that are not reflected in the polls. That is enough to sway the election in either way. People polled also may not actually vote. There are numerous scenarios that could play out. The more Obama looks like he thinks he already won, the less likely for his voters to turn out. He is still walking a tight rope and it wouldn't take more than a gust of wind (or a lawsuit in this case) to blow him off.

Remember, there is still and ongoing investigation as to whether or not Obama was born on USA soil. If the courts rule that he isn't, his Presidency will be stripped away from him.
 

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From where he went to school (1), to the class he was teaching for so many years (2), to what duties he did before he became a senator (3). I think the man is smart (4), and ready to lead (5). His VP is very well informed with the world and will work with him (6).

Palin on the other hand (7), I just don't see how she can help over seas (8). If Clinton would of been chosen to be VP she would of have at least met and known world leaders (9).

1. He wasn't a dean or any position that shows great leadership.
2. What, 30 students?
3. "Duties" lacks specificity.
4. Subjective.
5. Your opinion.
6. Biden is more qualified than Obama to be President--no argument from me on that one.
7. The race is between Obama and McCain, not Obama and Palin.
8. We won't know until she is tested--if she is ever tested (big "if" there).
9. No sense talking about theoreticals from the past.


McCain achieved the rank of Captain which, in the US Navy, often means commanding a ship or shore-based miltary establishment (in McCain's case, it was shore because of his disabilities).
 
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It's not over til it's over. Remember, there are upwards of 6 million people eligible to vote overseas that are not reflected in the polls. That is enough to sway the election in either way. People polled also may not actually vote. There are numerous scenarios that could play out. The more Obama looks like he thinks he already won, the less likely for his voters to turn out. He is still walking a tight rope and it wouldn't take more than a gust of wind (or a lawsuit in this case) to blow him off.

Remember, there is still and ongoing investigation as to whether or not Obama was born on USA soil. If the courts rule that he isn't, his Presidency will be stripped away from him.

McCain was born at Panama Canal Zone.....not on us soil

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/28/us/politics/28mccain.html
 
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