windows xp installation

[uchon]

Hi.
I am trying to install GPU-Z on Windows XP. (yeah, I know it's not supported by Microsoft anymore, but I have some computers with Windows XP that I can't get rid of yet)
Version 2.30.0 is the last version that can be installed without any previously earlier version installed.
Since version 2.31.0 (the current version today is 2.34.0) I can't install it on computers with XP. (maybe it has something to do with the changes in installation needed for the new -install and -installSilent switches)
The newer version do not even run on the computers unless there was a previously earlier version installed already.
Is there a solution for my problem that I do not know of?
Sorry for my language mistakes and for some repetitions.
Thank you
Udi

 

[pavle]

Why would you install it? Just download zip file and unpack it and run it.

 

[uchon]

Hi pavl3.
thank you for your response.
because if i just unpack a zip it isn't installed and when i search the registry for installed programs it won't show there
and even if I download the zip file (which by the way I couldn't find) will it run?

 

[Bones]

because if i just unpack a zip it isn't installed and when i search the registry for installed programs it won't show there
and even if I download the zip file (which by the way I couldn't find) will it run?

It's not supposed to be in the registry or even "Installed" if it's the portable version (Zipped), it's a stand alone program.
There is no need to install, stand alone programs work as is once unzipped.

You simply unzip it to a specific location of your choice, then go into the folder that's created when you unzip it and look for the .exe file, click on it and it should run.
In some cases you may have to start it as an administrator but aside from that it should work period.

 

[pavle]

I should have written download the portable version... anyhow - uchon - please do report if you also experience a delayed startup with newest version of GPU-Z in XP because it certainly takes its sweet time to load here.

 

[uchon]

Pavl3 and bones
thank you for your replies, but I NEED to install the program.
I need it, so when I check the computers' registry, which programs are installed, I would also get GPU-Z.
If I use the portable version, then the program will run (probably. I haven't checked if the portable 2.34.0 runs on XP as a standalone) but like I said before, it will not be in the registry.

 

[SomeOne99h]

How did you assume that the app "needs to be installed" first? Does the app tells you that and refuses to run?

 

[uchon]

someone99h thank you for your reply.
the app doesn't tell me it needs to be installed.
I need it to be installed.
when I run 2.30.0 manually it offers to install itself.
when I run 2.31.0 (and newer versions) "nothing happens". I mean, I can't see any GUI and the process terminates without installing or running. (Therefore I can't even run the program)
and again I do not mean the portable version (which cannot be installed)
only if I install 2.30.0 and then run 2.34.0 I can install it.

 

[Naki]

OKay, what make & model of Intel or AMD CPU do you use?
(This is hoping you are not on VIA or Centaur CPU somehow ).

 

[John Naylor]

The utility is self contained, it's not going to start from a shortcut unless you create one.

1. Go to https://www.techpowerup.com/download/techpowerup-gpu-z/

You will see this:

Standard Version
GPU-Z.2.34.0.exe

As you can see it is not a zip file... the entire program is a single self contained exe file. I t does not need to be nor should you want it to be "installed" in the traditional sense

2. Hit the download button, pick a server to download it from and save the file to the location of your choice

3. Download the utility to the location of your choice .... I chose: R:\Downloads \Utilities\1Techpowerup ... the folder name is completely meaningless. Could just as easily have named the folder C:\HemroidCream

4. Navigate to the R:\Downloads \Utilities\1Techpowerup or whatever folder you decided to create to store the file

5. The new folder should have only one file (GPU-Z.2.34.0.exe) .... double click on it and the utility will launch


The procedure is no different in Windows2000, WindowsXP, Windows 7, 8 or 10

If you feel the need to have a desktop "shortcut", the do so as you would for any other program. Instructions at link below

Windows XP: Adding Shortcuts

Understand how to create and utilize Windows XP shortcuts in this free lesson.

edu.gcfglobal.org

 

[uchon]

The utility is self contained, it's not going to start from a shortcut unless you create one.

1. Go to https://www.techpowerup.com/download/techpowerup-gpu-z/

You will see this:

Standard Version
GPU-Z.2.34.0.exe

As you can see it is not a zip file... the entire program is a single self contained exe file. I t does not need to be nor should you want it to be "installed" in the traditional sense

2. Hit the download button, pick a server to download it from and save the file to the location of your choice

3. Download the utility to the location of your choice .... I chose: R:\Downloads \Utilities\1Techpowerup ... the folder name is completely meaningless. Could just as easily have named the folder C:\HemroidCream

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4. Navigate to the R:\Downloads \Utilities\1Techpowerup or whatever folder you decided to create to store the file

5. The new folder should have only one file (GPU-Z.2.34.0.exe) .... double click on it and the utility will launch


The procedure is no different in Windows2000, WindowsXP, Windows 7, 8 or 10

If you feel the need to have a desktop "shortcut", the do so as you would for any other program. Instructions at link below

Windows XP: Adding Shortcuts

Understand how to create and utilize Windows XP shortcuts in this free lesson.

edu.gcfglobal.org

I am trying to explain that it does not run.
And I do need to install it in the "traditional" way.

OKay, what make & model of Intel or AMD CPU do you use?
(This is hoping you are not on VIA or Centaur CPU somehow ).

I have several computers running XP.
All have Intel processors of different types.
Some running home edition and some running Professional edition.

 

[Nike_486DX]

Maybe with 2.31 the compatibility with WinXP was finally broken. Anyways, what is the purpose of installing 2.34 if 2.30 can do the job?

I mean i understand that there are some programs that would run best under Windows XP, and that there are environments that WinXP is suited for better than Win7 for example. That is ok and is why Win XP can still be a viable choice. But i dont think that you want to install 2.34 because your RTX 3080 sensors dont show up properly, right?

 

[Rei]

I am trying to explain that it does not run.
And I do need to install it in the "traditional" way.


I have several computers running XP.
All have Intel processors of different types.
Some running home edition and some running Professional edition.

You are not being clear here. Why do YOU need to install GPU-Z badly? Why does it need to have it's registry installed?
There is no problem here on my end running the latest GPU-Z (2.34.0) on all for of my computers running WinXP.
Also considering that to install the GPU-Z, the program needs to run as well to show the option to install from the settings menu. Which means that GPU-Z is running open on your computer to which you do not need to install afterwards.
My guess is that the installer itself no longer supports WinXP.

Maybe with 2.31 the compatibility with WinXP was finally broken. Anyways, what is the purpose of installing 2.34 if 2.30 can do the job?

I mean i understand that there are some programs that would run best under Windows XP, and that there are environments that WinXP is suited for better than Win7 for example. That is ok and is why Win XP can still be a viable choice. But i dont think that you want to install 2.34 because your RTX 3080 sensors dont show up properly, right?

Which is hilarious since there is no driver for WinXP since GTX 780 Ti (except for GTX 950 & GTX 960). That is why 780Ti is my last stop for GPU upgrade.

 

[StefanM]

If you haven't done already, update Windows XP using the POSready trick.

At least on my XP rig GPU-Z 2.34 installs and runs fine.

 

[Naki]

I am trying to explain that it does not run.
And I do need to install it in the "traditional" way.


I have several computers running XP. All have Intel processors of different types.
Some running home edition and some running Professional edition.

No. Please list the EXACT Intel CPU models.
It does not matter to GPU-Z if you use WinXP Home or Pro (above in bold). But it does matter what exact CPUs you use!
Because recently there have been some changes in GPU-Z that drop or change support for some very old AMD and/or Intel CPUs.
Newer CPU models being not affected by this change -- so, please list the exact models, so we can be sure.

 

[W1zzard]

Version 2.30.0 is the last version that can be installed without any previously earlier version installed.
Since version 2.31.0 (the current version today is 2.34.0) I can't install it on computers with XP. (maybe it has something to do with the changes in installation needed for the new -install and -installSilent switches)

It should still work, maybe InnoSetup (the underlying installer) had some changes. Let me investigate.

Just to clarify, GPU-Z starts fine by itself, and reports correct values, just running the installer fails?

 

[Rei]

Just to clarify, GPU-Z starts fine by itself, and reports correct values, just running the installer fails?

That seems to be the case according to his garbled statement. Any reason why you added an installer, especially within an already working standalone application?

 

[Naki]

I think latest GPU-Z version does not even run for him at all. (So, not any Installer issue here - or at least, not the only issue )

 

[Rei]

I think latest GPU-Z version does not even run for him at all. (So, not any Installer issue here - or at least, not the only issue )

Not based on his third comment. He just FEELS THE NEED to install it. That's all.
Of course, to install it, one needs to run the "portable" program.

 

[uchon]

Let me clarify:
On XP running computers
If I try to install (or even run) from version 2.31.0 nothing happens.
If I first install version 2.30.0 (or earlier versions), then versions 2.31.0 (and newer) runs and installs correctly.
So I don't think it has anything to do with the CPU.

By the way, thank you all for your responses, efforts and willingness to help me.

 

[Rei]

Let me clarify:
On XP running computers
If I try to install (or even run) from version 2.31.0 nothing happens.
If I first install version 2.30.0 (or earlier versions), then versions 2.31.0 (and newer) runs and installs correctly.
So I don't think it has anything to do with the CPU.

By the way, thank you all for your responses, efforts and willingness to help me.

I think it might have something to do with what you did to your copies of WinXP cuz StefanM installed the GPU-Z 2.34.0 & ran the program just fine & I myself am also running GPU-Z 2.34.0 just fine on all four of my WinXP computers with the exception that I did not installed mine nor do I need to & neither do you.

Can you at least uninstall any previous version of GPU-Z than check if GPU-Z 2.34.0 runs without installing it, then try installing it too.

 

[Naki]

Nope - exact CPU is clearly a factor, as W1zzard recently changed the way GPU-Z works with very old Intel & AMD processors, those lacking certain newer instruction sets.
So, to quote it would be nice!
(You are welcome. )

@Rei -- yousa misunderstand uchon's texts!
Meesa understand his cryptic writings better.

 

[Bones]

Is the OP trying to run it with a stripped version of XP?

If so that may be the explanation as to why it doesn't run. Something in that case probrably got stripped out GPU-Z needs to run period OR as I referred to earlier it's a permissions issue requiring it to be ran as an Administrator.
If the OS stripping wasn't done correctly one can have plenty of problems pop up like this.
Only real solution to that would be to reinstall a "Proper" (Unstripped) copy of XP and try again.

Lot of reasons why it woudn't run here but I agree, the CPU itself is a non-factor.
If the machine boots and runs the OS itself it should let the program run as well based on whether the CPU is an issue or not.

 

[Naki]

@Bones -- you are wrong, because GPU-Z had changes in exactly this area recently, so CPU does matter.
You are wrong about WinXP modifications too - I bet he is using a standard, non-modified, RTM copy of WinXP on all PCs.

 

[Bones]

About the CPU - You may well be right about that I'll admit. I don't run GPU-Z alot because I don't have a real need to for noticing any changes with it.

As for the stripped OS I know I'm right about that being a possibility - I've stripped XP too many times before myself, ran into problems with the wrong thing(s) getting removed and so on while trying to create a copy just for benching use.

Note I said possibility here.

Neither of us can factually state he's using a standard copy of XP, only he can do that.