X79 and/or rampage IV OC'ing thread for those of us still left....

lexluthermiester · Aug 3, 2023

Zyll Goliat said:
Just a little update.....I finaly get NVME drive for my X79 platform I knew that it's going to work as bootable dsk as I have modded bios on it but I was hope that I will be able to get same/high BCLK OC like I always have before.....unfortunately that is not possible the best-stable BCLK OC I managed to get with NVME in PCIe slot is 105 on BUS and before I was fully stable on 115 that in reality get me around 10% better performance without NVME drive on my Xeon/2697 V2/.....So I believe that I am going to pull out NVME drive and keep it safe with SATA 3 speed but much higher CPU speed.....

Interesting results. Not surprising though. System bus speeds have always been touchy.

Zyll Goliat · Aug 3, 2023

lexluthermiester said:
Interesting results. Not surprising though. System bus speeds have always been touchy.

Yeah....it's just weird because I have many different GPU's so far AMD and Nvidia and all of them worked with no issue on my high BCLK OC but NVME drive just can't handle it anything above 105 its not stable, in range from 105-108 it will wake up disk and enter the windows but it will cause stability issues above 108 it's not going to be recognized disk at all.....

Duc996 · Aug 3, 2023

Zyll Goliat said:
Yeah....it's just weird because I have many different GPU's so far AMD and Nvidia and all of them worked with no issue on my high BCLK OC but NVME drive just can't handle it anything above 105 its not stable, in range from 105-108 it will wake up and enter the windows but it will cause stability issues above 108 it's not going to be recognized at all.....

Ever thought about removing your second GPU and give it a try with your NVME ... could be you reach max PCIe-Lanes and that is causing your BCLK issues. IIRC there are 40 lanes available. Running two GPU´s and the NVME should already use 36! Which is quite alot ... not much room left though.

Zyll Goliat · Aug 3, 2023

Duc996 said:
Ever thought about removing your second GPU and give it a try with your NVME ... could be you reach max PCIe-Lanes and that is causing your BCLK issues. IIRC there are 40 lanes available. Running two GPU´s and the NVME should already use 36! Which is quite alot ... not much room left though.

No difference I already tried that.....and actually that second GPU works on 8 lanes as I put it in the last slot on the motherboard.....it's basically 2D Card low powered GPU that provides really quality picture and thats all it's not a gaming 3D card....

WillingMost7 · Aug 10, 2023

ZOX said:
Yes, it arrived few days after post ...
I'm using Zalman STC9 paste after years of MX4 since I noticed that MX4 disappeared after cca 1 year of use on two chips..
Max temp under 70C with almost summer conditions, Arctic 120mm tower, 4 pipes, 160W max CPU reported, but case is well ventilated.
4.2 GHz, stock volts, 50% drop (cca 1.23V all-core load).
It needs 1.3V for 4.4 stable, but 200MHz is not worth it for almost 0.1V increase ...
Apparently loves 1.7V PLL, needs 1.1V on NB to be 100% stable at 1866 MHz RAM.
No OC/Volt difference using 1.25 strap ...

VERY impressive for 3930K. I got mine on 4.2 GHz with 1.275V, keeping to wonder if I am missing something.

lexluthermiester · Aug 11, 2023

WillingMost7 said:
VERY impressive for 3930K. I got mine on 4.2 GHz with 1.275V, keeping to wonder if I am missing something.

You might get 4.4ghz out of it if you push the voltage to 1.3v or even 1.315v. Would suggest not going much higher than that as a daily driver. Make sure you have excellent cooling. That much voltage will pump out the heat from that CPU.

BTW, welcome to TPU!

bobbybluz · Aug 11, 2023

I had a 3930K that I got slightly over 5GHz out of. I've posted the CPU-Z of it on here before. That benchmark was done in December of 2012. It took 5 years before core degradation took its toll and I replaced it with a 4960X then the E5 1680 V2 that's still in that PC. The 3930K had a Corsair H100i (until the thicker H105 came out) externally mounted on top of a Corsair 500R case. The 4 SilverStone FM-121 fans in push/pull are also still in use but they have an Arctic Liquid Freezer II 240 between them for the 1680 V2. 11 years out of the fans and Asus X79 Sabertooth so far. The original 64GB of G.Skill Ripjaws DDR3 1866 was replaced by 64GB of Corsair Dominator DDR3 2100 when the 4960X went in (I got them in the same package deal).

The 1680 V2 at 4.5GHz scored over 4,000 points higher on PassMark than the 3930K at 5GHz. The 4960X at 4.5GHz was about the same as the 3930K at 5GHz.

k_9virus · Aug 14, 2023

Duc996 said:
I recently rebuild my x79 System with a modded BIOS running just one single Crucial P3 NVME. I got a cheap PCIe x4 IcyBox (working absolutely fantastic btw.) for it and just put it in the related x4 slot. I have a Rampage IV Gene with a 2697v2 together with 32gb RAM. I can overclock to 114,1 BCLK ... everything above is crashing instantly. My 24/7 setting is 113,4 BCLK with + 0,05 v offset. I´ve no issues with the NVME though. Only thing I recognized is a strange GPU behavior with high BCLK. I sometimes get GPU driver timeouts ...

link to that icybox? thank you

Duc996 · Aug 21, 2023

k_9virus said:
link to that icybox? thank you

Here you go --> https://www.mindfactory.de/product_...VMe-SSD-gt--PCIe-IB-PCI214M2-HSl_1277172.html
Unfortunately a german store ... but I´m sure you manage to find one matching your location

Zyll Goliat · Aug 22, 2023

ZOX said:
I'll send a bug report for this and it would be smart if others do so.
We need to put a small pressure on AMD driver team

@ZOX Just a little update I tried today the latest 23.8.1 drivers with the REBAR ON/1gb/ on my X79 Sabertooth/6700XT and look like they working great so far no issue at all like on some of the previous newer drivers before this driver 22.11.2 as you suggested was also working great.....

gugasfreaK · Sep 27, 2023

For the people trying to enable ALL the hidden options in your MOBO. Try this: https://github.com/xCuri0/ReBarUEFI/issues/48#issuecomment-1738111588

This is from a ASUS RAMPAGE IV FORMULA.

r3down · Sep 28, 2023

you guys got me wanting to try again on that x79 w 2697v2

thesmokingman · Sep 29, 2023

bobbybluz said:
I had a 3930K that I got slightly over 5GHz out of. I've posted the CPU-Z of it on here before. That benchmark was done in December of 2012.

That brings me back... we all had 5ghz 3930s.back then. I had three of them along with quads 290 Lightnings and 580s. Back then playing the rat race that is 3dmark HoF.

Yesterday I dug out the last leftover 5ghz 3930 I had leftover to build a rig for a nephew, first gaming rig doh. I paired it with a 980ti leftovers, that big noctua cooler now has a role again. I had to google how to overclock 3930s cuz I kind of forgot lol. Fun stuff.

r3down · Sep 29, 2023

r3down said:
you guys got me wanting to try again on that x79 w 2697v2

yea I only can bclk but i think the gpu is limiting that. and possibly an nvme drive could also

ZOX · Sep 30, 2023

Glad to hear about 23.8.1 working.
I've switched to 23.9.1 and they are also working great. Seems AMD fixed whatever it was...
Installed 6700XT and at 2750 MHz with 1680@4.2, Tomb Raider reports 98% gpu limited at 1440p.
Wanted to go for 6800XT, but seller wasn't opened to negotiations until after 6700XT arrived

About nvme and bclk OC... Adata sx8200 pro is working fine under 110 MHz. Is it a drive limitation or low quality nvme adaper - who knows, but high bclk is possible with nvme.
Anyway, I'll have more time to tinker since my 6 working months have ended and it's time to solve Above 4G mystery...

dalekdukesboy · Oct 19, 2023

7900XTX Liquid Devil *READ DESCRIPTION | eBay

<p dir="ltr" style="margin-top:0; margin-bottom:0;">This card was in a loop that had a mixture of metals (aluminum and copper) and was not properly maintained (wife was using it while I was on deployment so I could not clean the loop) hence the water block corrosion. It will need a new water...

www.ebay.com

Got a great deal on this! I will probably clean it up as well as use some Liquid Metal to replace the stock paste and see how far I can push it!

Aquinus · Nov 10, 2023

I finally took the plunge since I almost never use my tower anymore (sadly,) and pushed a modded BIOS to my P9X79 Deluxe and now I have PCIe bifurcation, NVMe boot support, and a bunch of settings that I'm almost afraid to touch. I just bought myself a 2TB Samsung 980 Pro NVMe to replace the 512GB 960 Pro I got half a decade ago. I was using that just for game storage and I'm going to reinstall Ubuntu on the bigger drive and get it set up with some NVMe root FS goodness. I've already tested it out on the 512GB, so now I just need to swap hardware out. It appears that Ubuntu 23.10 really doesn't like it when I have RSTe enabled, so I needed a fast disk I could boot from since my SATA SSD RAID-0 was now out of the question for booting.

I almost forgot how far ahead of its time the P9X79 Deluxe was when it came out. To think a board from ~12 years ago could boot from a NVMe at PCIe 3.0 is pretty crazy to be honest. I'm also glad that it didn't brick my motherboard, however now my P9X79 Deluxe has the ROG logo on boot which is funny.

bobbybluz · Nov 14, 2023

It looks like I may finally be retiring my Asus X79 Sabertooth/ E5-1680 V2 rig. I'm thinking of using the Corsair Carbide 500R case for my still uncompleted Asus X99 Rampage V Edition 10/ 6950X build and moving ahead one generation. It's been a great 11 year run for X79 but now I want more USB 3.0 front panel ports, native NVMe, WiFi, more CPU cores and more RAM. I have 128GB of G.Skill Trident Z 3333 on hand and a like new EVGA GTX 1080 Ti FTW on hand for the upgrade.

dalekdukesboy · Nov 14, 2023

bobbybluz said:
It looks like I may finally be retiring my Asus X79 Sabertooth/ E5-1680 V2 rig. I'm thinking of using the Corsair Carbide 500R case for my still uncompleted Asus X99 Rampage V Edition 10/ 6950X build and moving ahead one generation. It's been a great 11 year run for X79 but now I want more USB 3.0 front panel ports, native NVMe, WiFi, more CPU cores and more RAM. I have 128GB of G.Skill Trident Z 3333 on hand and a like new EVGA GTX 1080 Ti FTW on hand for the upgrade.

Traitor!!!! lol joking but will look forward to your posting about new system and keep posting about old system!

Aquinus · Nov 16, 2023

dalekdukesboy said:
Traitor!!!! lol joking but will look forward to your posting about new system and keep posting about old system!

I have to admit, after using my 3930k with a Vega 64 for a week or so again, I'm reminded of how capable this pair is. I decided to buy SnowRunner and see how it runs through Proton and I have everything at ultra at 4k without AA and it runs a steady 60fps. I honestly can't complain about that. I may be biased though because it can easily keep my office warm in the winter and it's getting chilly out. :laugh:

lexluthermiester · Nov 17, 2023

Aquinus said:
4k without AA

And that's likely why. At 4k, AA just isn't needed.

ZOX · Nov 21, 2023

Good news everyone

Seems xCuri0 fixed Above 4G bug for x79. Currently running 16G rebar size ...

wanna_buy · Saturday at 7:30 AM

Hello everyone. Long time no see.

Recently I got 64GB G.Skill RAM for my E5-2699V3 & Rampage V Extreme setup. I managed to lower the timings to 5-9-7-10-1T which was benchmark stable in Cinebench R15.

Has anyone ever managed to get DDR4 to such low DDR2-level timings?

My main X99 board went bad because it was occasionally refusing to show video signal upon boot with memory debug LEDs blinking. I reassembled my main rig on P9X79 Deluxe and Xeon E5-1680V2.

The above record was achieved on my secondary PC used for benchmarking.

Aquinus · Saturday at 5:17 PM

wanna_buy said:
I managed to lower the timings to 5-9-7-10-1T which was benchmark stable in Cinebench R15. Has anyone ever managed to get DDR4 to such low DDR2-level timings?

I'd be impressed if that were DDR3 timings, but DDR4? That's nuts.

On an unrelated note. Who ever said software RAID-5 was slow? This was with my very old 1TB WD Blacks (4 of them.)

Code:

root@Kratos:~# dd if=/dev/zero of=/mnt/hdd-raid5/test.out bs=4M count=10240
10240+0 records in
10240+0 records out
42949672960 bytes (43 GB, 40 GiB) copied, 176.254 s, 244 MB/s
root@Kratos:~# dd if=/mnt/hdd-raid5/test.out of=/dev/null bs=4M
10240+0 records in
10240+0 records out
42949672960 bytes (43 GB, 40 GiB) copied, 110.268 s, 390 MB/s

Also, I finally was able to apply an undervolt to my Vega 64 in Linux and I'm seeing a nice healthy 8.6% improvement just from the lower volts, a little more fan speed, and a very slight underclock to 1600mhz on p7 to keep the card happy at 1000mv. I'm still in astonishment that there is that much headroom with these chips. I'm also pushing a healthy 4.6Ghz on all cores on my 3930k. Long live SBe! :laugh:

System Name	KING-XEON
Processor	Xeon 2697 V2(12c/24t) (OC-3,45Ghz-ALL*CORES----TURBO BOOSTING 4,03Ghz)
Motherboard	Sabertooth X79
Cooling	Xigmatek LOKI SD963 double-Fan
Memory	64Gb DDR3 Kingston/Mushkin 1540Mhz Active clocks(9-9-9-24-162-1T)
Video Card(s)	1)RX 6700XT Power Color Fighter 12gb***2)MATROX M9120LP
Storage	2 x ssd-Kingston 240Gb A400 in RAID 0+ HDD 500Gb +Samsung 128gbSSD +SSD Kinston 480Gb
Display(s)	BenQ 28"EL2870U(4K-HDR) / Acer 24"(1080P) / Eizo 2336W(1080p) / 2x Eizo 19"(1280x1024)
Case	Lian Li
Audio Device(s)	Realtek/Creative T20 Speakers
Power Supply	F S P Hyper S 700W
Mouse	Asus TUF-GAMING M3
Keyboard	Func FUNC-KB-460/Mechanical Keyboard
VR HMD	Oculus Rift DK2
Software	Win 11
Benchmark Scores	Fire Strike=23905,Cinebench R15=1789,Cinebench R20=3791.Passmark=20689,Geekbench4=32885

System Name	KING-XEON
Processor	Xeon 2697 V2(12c/24t) (OC-3,45Ghz-ALL*CORES----TURBO BOOSTING 4,03Ghz)
Motherboard	Sabertooth X79
Cooling	Xigmatek LOKI SD963 double-Fan
Memory	64Gb DDR3 Kingston/Mushkin 1540Mhz Active clocks(9-9-9-24-162-1T)
Video Card(s)	1)RX 6700XT Power Color Fighter 12gb***2)MATROX M9120LP
Storage	2 x ssd-Kingston 240Gb A400 in RAID 0+ HDD 500Gb +Samsung 128gbSSD +SSD Kinston 480Gb
Display(s)	BenQ 28"EL2870U(4K-HDR) / Acer 24"(1080P) / Eizo 2336W(1080p) / 2x Eizo 19"(1280x1024)
Case	Lian Li
Audio Device(s)	Realtek/Creative T20 Speakers
Power Supply	F S P Hyper S 700W
Mouse	Asus TUF-GAMING M3
Keyboard	Func FUNC-KB-460/Mechanical Keyboard
VR HMD	Oculus Rift DK2
Software	Win 11
Benchmark Scores	Fire Strike=23905,Cinebench R15=1789,Cinebench R20=3791.Passmark=20689,Geekbench4=32885

System Name	"The black one in the dining room" / "The Latest One"
Processor	Intel Xeon E5 2683 V4 16c/32t / i5 13600KF Raptor Lake
Motherboard	Asus X99 Deluxe / ASRock Z790 Steel Legend WiFi
Cooling	Arctic Liquid Freezer II 240 w/4 Silverstone FM121 fans / Arctic LF II 280 w Silverstone FHP141's
Memory	64GB G.Skill Ripjaws V DDR4 2400 (8x8) / 64G G.Skill Trident Z5 DDR5 6400
Video Card(s)	EVGA RTX 1080 Ti FTW3 / ASRock OC Formula Radeon RX 6900 XT 16GB
Storage	Samsung 970 Evo Plus. 480GB MyDigital NVMe, 1TB Samsung 860, 4 Western Digital 2TB / SK hynix P41
Display(s)	43" Samsung 8000 series 4K / 50" Vizio M-series 4K
Case	Modded Corsair Carbide 500R / Modded Corsair Graphite 780 T
Audio Device(s)	Asus Xonar Essence STX II/ Asus Xonar Essence STX
Power Supply	Corsair AX1200i / Seasonic Prime GX-1300
Mouse	Logitech Performance MX
Keyboard	Logitech K750 Solar, DiNovo Edge
Software	Win 10 Enterprise LTSC / Win 11 Pro for Workstations 22H2

System Name	DarkPurple
Processor	Intel i9 11900k
Motherboard	Aorus z590 Pro AX
Cooling	Custom H2O cooling
Memory	Corsair Vengeance pro 16gb x2 3600mhz
Video Card(s)	Evga RTX 3080 FTW3 ultra
Storage	WD black nvme 500gb, Samsung 860 evo 500gb, WD3tb
Display(s)	Gigabyte g34wqc a / acer xf270h
Case	Silverstone ft06
Power Supply	EVGA supernova 1000g+
Mouse	Logitech g703
Keyboard	Logitech pro
Software	Windows 11 x64

System Name	KING-XEON
Processor	Xeon 2697 V2(12c/24t) (OC-3,45Ghz-ALL*CORES----TURBO BOOSTING 4,03Ghz)
Motherboard	Sabertooth X79
Cooling	Xigmatek LOKI SD963 double-Fan
Memory	64Gb DDR3 Kingston/Mushkin 1540Mhz Active clocks(9-9-9-24-162-1T)
Video Card(s)	1)RX 6700XT Power Color Fighter 12gb***2)MATROX M9120LP
Storage	2 x ssd-Kingston 240Gb A400 in RAID 0+ HDD 500Gb +Samsung 128gbSSD +SSD Kinston 480Gb
Display(s)	BenQ 28"EL2870U(4K-HDR) / Acer 24"(1080P) / Eizo 2336W(1080p) / 2x Eizo 19"(1280x1024)
Case	Lian Li
Audio Device(s)	Realtek/Creative T20 Speakers
Power Supply	F S P Hyper S 700W
Mouse	Asus TUF-GAMING M3
Keyboard	Func FUNC-KB-460/Mechanical Keyboard
VR HMD	Oculus Rift DK2
Software	Win 11
Benchmark Scores	Fire Strike=23905,Cinebench R15=1789,Cinebench R20=3791.Passmark=20689,Geekbench4=32885

X79 and/or rampage IV OC'ing thread for those of us still left....

lexluthermiester

Zyll Goliat

Duc996

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Zyll Goliat

WillingMost7

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lexluthermiester

bobbybluz

k_9virus

Duc996

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Zyll Goliat

gugasfreaK

r3down

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thesmokingman

r3down

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ZOX

dalekdukesboy

7900XTX Liquid Devil *READ DESCRIPTION | eBay

Aquinus

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bobbybluz

dalekdukesboy

Aquinus

Resident Wat-man

lexluthermiester

ZOX

wanna_buy

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Motherboard	Asus x570 Strix-E
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Storage	Sabrent
Display(s)	Samsung G9
Case	Phanteks 719
Audio Device(s)	Fiio K5 Pro
Power Supply	EVGA 1000 P2
Mouse	Logitech G600
Keyboard	Corsair K95

Processor	E5-1680 V2
Motherboard	Rampage IV black
Video Card(s)	Asrock 7900 xtx
Storage	500 gb sd
Software	windows 10 64 bit
Benchmark Scores	29,433 3dmark06 score

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