Friday, August 7th 2009

Intel Responds to Phenom II X2 BE with Pentium E6500K

With the 45 nm Phenom II AM3 architecture, AMD is able to offer two highly competitive mainstream dual-core processors: the Phenom II X2 (Callisto), and Athlon II X2 (Regor). The Phenom II X2 550 Black Edition chips not only serves as a notable sub-$100 choice for mainstream consumers, but also offers good value to overclockers with an unlocked bus multiplier, and with the right tools, the potential to unlock disabled physical cores. With its prime competitor from the blue camp being Pentium Dual-Core E5000 and E6000 series, Intel decided to up the stakes with a low-cost overclocker-friendly dual-core processor labeled Pentium Dual-Core E6500K, the company's first FSB multiplier-unlocked 45 nm dual-core chip.

Based on the 45 nm Wolfdale-2M core, the E6500K boasts of a default clock speed of 2.93 GHz (11.0 x 266 MHz). The bus multiplier is unlocked, leaving room to play with it. Placed in the Pentium E6000 series, the chip has a FSB frequency of 1066 MHz, compared to its E5000 cousins that sport 800 MHz FSB. Aided with a 2 MB L2 cache, the E6500K is expected to go head-on against competing AMD chips. Currently available in China for RMB 1299 (converts to $190) as part of bundle with Biostar T-Series TP45E motherboard, the E6500K is expected to retail soon for US $89. Incidentally, the "K" in E6500K refers to "black" in digital imaging jargon.

Source: Expreview
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98 Comments on Intel Responds to Phenom II X2 BE with Pentium E6500K

#1
Zubasa
None the less, this proc is more of a gimmic than anything, since its a limited production.
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#2
newtekie1
Semi-Retired Folder
AltecV1 said:
what enoyes me the most is that they went back on the E6XXX:shadedshu WHY INTEL WHY,it is just sooo confuseing:mad:
I think the E6XXX number makes sence, considering how close in specs they are. I mean both E6300 processors were 1066FSB and 2MB L2 cache, the only difference is 45nm vs. 65nm and the new E6300 has a higher clock speed.

I do see what you are saying though, how many people are going to look to see if their board supports the new E6300, and see support for the old E6300 and think it means the new E6300? Personally, I would have preferred if they used slightly different numbers, even if they were still E6XXX series, but call the new E6300 the E6350 or something instead to avoid confusion with compatibility.

Zubasa said:
True that no one can garrantee a sucessful unlock, but neither can anyone garrantee that the E6500K will all OC great either. On the other hand, you can get a decent am2/am3 mobo at the price of a cheap P45/43, so unless you already owns a 775 platform and buying this chip for fun, I wouldn't say this is the better choice.
True, but while no one can guarantee the E6500K will overclock great, it is a lot more likely than an unlock on a 550BE.

I think going AM2/3 would be a better option for someone looking to continue to upgrade down the road. But I also wouldn't have a problem building a 775 system today for someone that isn't likely to upgrade any time soon.

Zubasa said:
Who OC with their stock cooler anyways? :laugh:
I do...
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#3
Zubasa
newtekie1 said:

I do...
Not a great idea to OC on the lame new C2D coolers.
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#5
Dahaka
Clock per clock who is better?.

For me, this kind of proccesor is only for overclocking purposes :laugh::laugh:
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#6
[I.R.A]_FBi
Zubasa said:
None the less, this proc is more of a gimmic than anything, since its a limited production.
Where says this?
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#7
newtekie1
Semi-Retired Folder
Zubasa said:
Not a great idea to OC on the lame new C2D coolers.
I didn't say I was performing massive overclocks. But the stock coolers are good for an extra few hundred MHz.

I've currently got an E1400@3.0GHz from 2.0GHz on the stock cooler, and a Pentium D 805@3.33GHz from 2.66GHz on the stock cooler. Both never go above 65°C under full folding load. Of course part of the trick is to make sure to force the fan speed to 100%...I didn't say they were the quietest machines...:laugh:

Basically, I'll overclock everything I possible can, stock cooler or not. As long as you keep an eye on temps, there is no reason you can't overclock at least a little with the stock cooler, and anything that adds PPD helps.
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#8
PCpraiser100
Score for Intel, bout time too. They should show moar results ehen its OC, got a friends that needs a media PC.
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#9
Kursah
Zubasa said:
True that no one can garrantee a sucessful unlock, but neither can anyone garrantee that the E6500K will all OC great either. On the other hand, you can get a decent am2/am3 mobo at the price of a cheap P45/43, so unless you already owns a 775 platform and buying this chip for fun, I wouldn't say this is the better choice.
Good point, but looking at the Core2 track record, I really doubt in the main scheme of things it'll be a crap clocker and being based on Wolfdale, I've yet to work with one that couldn't hit at least 3.8Ghz with very little effort (though I have only used e8400/8500/8600 from the Wolfdale series). I might have to pick one of these up in the future! It comes down to what someone wants, it's cool that AMD and Intel offer such chips, I've played with both sides also, but at the end of the day after Core2, Intel kept me hooked, for this overclocker it's been a damn fun ride.

Good job for intel finally realizing there's competition in this market for such chips with such features, something AMD has done for a while. Good stuff. But Zubasa, you only need a cheap P35/P45 to OC quite well, heck I'm impressed with what a $50 GB P35-DS3L is capable of. It was used though! This chip gives end-users yet another option in the plethora of them already out there, but it definately will be a bang for the buck chip, I could be wrong, but with my experience with the Core2-based series, this chip will be a big success with overclockers and I bet seeing some 4.5-5GHz results is totally realistic with the right cooling (read: expensive and exotic), and 3.5-4Ghz realistic on good air cooling. That's my bet, and if that happens, for 90 bucks, it'll be a true hit.

:toast:
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#10
Zubasa
[I.R.A]_FBi said:
Where says this?
Right in front of the box in bold Chinese words :p
限量版 = limited edition
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#11
Zubasa
Kursah said:
Good point, but looking at the Core2 track record, I really doubt in the main scheme of things it'll be a crap clocker and being based on Wolfdale, I've yet to work with one that couldn't hit at least 3.8Ghz with very little effort (though I have only used e8400/8500/8600 from the Wolfdale series). I might have to pick one of these up in the future! It comes down to what someone wants, it's cool that AMD and Intel offer such chips, I've played with both sides also, but at the end of the day after Core2, Intel kept me hooked, for this overclocker it's been a damn fun ride.

Good job for intel finally realizing there's competition in this market for such chips with such features, something AMD has done for a while. Good stuff. But Zubasa, you only need a cheap P35/P45 to OC quite well, heck I'm impressed with what a $50 GB P35-DS3L is capable of. It was used though! This chip gives end-users yet another option in the plethora of them already out there, but it definately will be a bang for the buck chip, I could be wrong, but with my experience with the Core2-based series, this chip will be a big success with overclockers and I bet seeing some 4.5-5GHz results is totally realistic with the right cooling (read: expensive and exotic), and 3.5-4Ghz realistic on good air cooling. That's my bet, and if that happens, for 90 bucks, it'll be a true hit.

:toast:
Indeed the Wolfdales overall clocks very well, but you have to remeber this is a Pentium Dual Core and they usually don't clock as well as the E8XXXs. Anyways the PIIs clock decent as well its not like they can't reach 3.8 either just with more effort and luck.

Grab one while you can, because this looks like an Intel showoff more by making this a limited edition.
This is the reason I am wary about this new wolfie.
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#12
Mussels
Moderprator
wolfdale 2M? 1/3 the cache with an unlocked multi...


sure it'll reach high clocks, but its performance wont be that great.
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#13
a_ump
wow is darren just banned from this thread or? he's been a member for a while lol. I agree that what fit says is kinda undeniable. I definitely think that this chip will be able to reach 3.8ghz on air. Intel even stated that this will be very oc friendly which i've never heard them state before, so you can bet it will oc good. The fact that its a wolfdale chip also helps it and that its 45nm. idk we shall see
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#14
OnBoard
Too high hopes people have on this chip. None of the lower end Wolfdales are multiplier limited to begin with. Unless higher multi does miracles on the voltage need vs. higher FSB these won't overclock any better on air.

E7200 has x9.5 E6300 has x10.5 E5200 has x12.5 and rest of the series more. All will do 4GHz with just about any motherboard. They are just not usable at that speed, at least my E7200 got plenty hot and was still under 1.4V. Half the power components and IHS not soldered doesn't help compared to E8x00.

Would I get E5x00 or E7x00 now that this is coming, probably not. Will be a fun thing to play around, but I don't expect these to OC much more than E6300 already does. (yes I'll be reading the review when one is available and don't mind being totally wrong)

If they would make Q9400K for example, then I'd be more excited :p
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#15
chinese_farmer
the chinese words on the box "限量版" (in the first pic) mean that this CPU will only be produced in limited quantity, just thought you'd all like to know. :toast:


Edit:
oops someone got there before me.
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#16
Mussels
Moderprator
Fitseries3 said:
narrow views?

do some research on me man.

i've had TONS of hardware in the past 5 years.

my "opinion" is based upon actual hands on experience from using and OCing almost everything that is out there.

im not reading reviews and assuming that intel is better.... i WRITE the reviews.

FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE TRAMPLES 2ND HAND WORDS.
indeed, and thats why fitsies is trusted around here.

Thing is fitsy-kins, once you write it and someone reads it - it becomes 2nd hand already :(
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#17
EarlZ
Nice, this is a great upgrade from a stock E2160!
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#18
hat
Enthusiast
I really hope we see more of this from Intel (and AMD for that matter) in years to come :toast:
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#19
eidairaman1
Mussels said:
indeed, and thats why fitsies is trusted around here.

Thing is fitsy-kins, once you write it and someone reads it - it becomes 2nd hand already :(
LMFAO!!!

Yup people who are cocky tend to be blind :cool:
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#20
DJEscreet
OnBoard said:
If they would make Q9400K for example, then I'd be more excited
Phwwoarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr............drools!!!!

pass me a towel..

:D
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#21
WarEagleAU
Bird of Prey
Impressive but I have to agree in that I would love to have seen this, if not in the 1366 platform, the 1156 platform coming up for i3/i5 chips. Id snag this up to have my second ever intel chip and try out the unlocked features of it.
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#22
tkpenalty
I am SO grabbing this for my old system >=D
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#23
js01
Intel offering unlocked multi for under $1000, did hell just freeze over?
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#24
Mussels
Moderprator
js01 said:
Intel offering unlocked multi for under $1000, did hell just freeze over?
dunno, but its Fing cold here.
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#25
btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
js01 said:
Intel offering unlocked multi for under $1000, did hell just freeze over?
The i7 975 sells for $999, so yes.
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