Wednesday, September 7th 2011
MSI Calls Bluff on Gigabyte's PCIe Gen 3 Ready Claim
In August, Gigabyte made a claim that baffled at least MSI, that scores of its motherboards are Ready for Native PCIe Gen. 3. Along with the likes of ASRock, MSI was one of the first with motherboards featuring PCI-Express 3.0 slots, the company took the pains to educate buyers what PCI-E 3.0 is, and how to spot a motherboard that features it. MSI thinks that Gigabyte made a factual blunder bordering misinformation by claiming that as many as 40 of its motherboards are "Ready for Native PCIe Gen. 3." MSI decided to put its engineering and PR team to build a technically-sound presentation rebutting Gigabyte's claims.
More slides, details follow.
MSI begins by explaining that PCIe support isn't as easy as laying a wire between the CPU and the slot. It needs specifications-compliant lane switches and electrical components, and that you can't count on certain Gigabytes for future-proofing.
MSI did some PCI-Express electrical testing using a 22 nm Ivy Bridge processor sample.
MSI claims that apart from the G1.Sniper 2, none of Gigabyte's so-called "Ready for Native PCIe Gen. 3" motherboards are what the badge claims to be, and that the badge is extremely misleading to buyers. Time to refill the popcorn bowl.
Source:
MSI
MSI begins by explaining that PCIe support isn't as easy as laying a wire between the CPU and the slot. It needs specifications-compliant lane switches and electrical components, and that you can't count on certain Gigabytes for future-proofing.
286 Comments on MSI Calls Bluff on Gigabyte's PCIe Gen 3 Ready Claim
Again, please, facts etc. are nice since they supporting a point in a discussion.
I'm pretty sure that if you tried ordering it somewhere in Europe you'd had the ability. Or does the fact that I had my hands on Gen3 boards before that also count as "being able to buy it?"
Oh and you didn't buy it from ASRock, you buy it from a store at which point the store decides which product you can buy ;)
You remember this? This was the first thing TPU posted about a PCI-E 3.0 SW and PCI-e 3.0 motherboard
Like, no offense, but WTF are you doing here?
OF course, I am assuming jfk1024 is AsRock rep, and he's not here to give me motherboards for review. It's hard to beleive this discussion can happen any other way.
Interesting.
OH. Wait a minute. I understand why AsRock won't send me boards now, too. We already have some members with one :laugh:
lab501.ro/stiri/asrock-pci-e-3-0-si-gama-fatal1ty
that was on 2nd august 2011. And now you come on 7th september and say that a PCI-E 3.0 SW is needed. WOW, a month later MSI discovered this?
The right title for this article is: MSI Calls Bluff on Gigabyte's PCIe Gen 3 Ready Claim one month later after ASRock. :banghead:
There's more than this but since there's also things like NDA's there are plenty more reasons for it to not work :)
2 more points, there is an edit button so you don't have to triple post all the time, you can place everything conveniently in one.
And as for your discussion on dates, I gladly point you to media.msi.com since you seem to be good in googling asrock/gigabyte and not MSI :)
Slide number 8: media.msi.com/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=67153 2 weeks before Gigabytes announcement.
MSI at that time didn't attack other vendors because those vendors were not pretending to do Gen3, That changed after gigabytes press release, okay? It's not fun to have to point out cheating and it requires a lot of manpower on research verifying claims one way or the other.
And this is the end of my response to your unfounded (and frankly very tiresome) accusations, since you haven't got one thing right yet and you don't seem to want to discuss anything.
To be point blank, I don't remember seeing a personal invite for you to come here and try to explain why going after someone else was a good idea. If you don't have thick skin you don't belong at TPU anyways.
You know for a company rep you are very condescending to my members when you are the one who dropped in here on your own to try to be the hero! When you want to play both sides of the question and answer that is fine, but the immature way that you are picking and choosing what to answer, and if this is tiresome, don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out!
Pot and kettle, you know.I cannot beleive two days later, and you guys are still arguing over this.How about OUR, you are not the website alone.
Also I just looked to verify...where exactly do I look for your coolers and cases? Or you do mean the Wind plastic boxes are your case lineup? Coolers, you mean the ones that come on your cards and are not aftermarket?
You mean you are saying you sell coolers for aftermarket? To me if you sell an aftermarket cooler you need to cover the Phase and everything, not just sell off overstocked "coolers". Again if you knew terminology, maybe we wouldn't be here discussing irrelevant points now;)
Though it's nice to see everyone including mods go way out of their line to personally harass based on interpretation and semantics:)Open job applications are always welcome :)