Can't wait!

It's not September 14th, it just says somewhere in September 2014.

RoelIt's not September 14th, it just says somewhere in September 2014.

HAHA So true also the i7-4930K is old it should be i7-5930K.

DeadlyraverCan't wait!

To be honest, Intel guys are very very late with those launches, should have launched those at least half an year ago.

Not fair and that's why YOU should consider AMD processors ONLY! :)

Sony Xperia SNot fair and that's why YOU should consider AMD processors ONLY! :)

EXPLAIN please! :cool:
Did I've missed something and AMD has finally produced good performing CPUs? Don't think so...
Remember: This is Haswell-E! No one interested in this platform really cares about performance per dollar. 8) Peak performance is what counts, no matter the cost.

Sony Xperia STo be honest, Intel guys are very very late with those launches, should have launched those at least half an year ago.

Not fair and that's why YOU should consider AMD processors ONLY! :)

Tell me more about the inadequacies of my skt2011 i7 3820. You don't release something new and faster if the market isn't demanding it or if they don't have it. Also I have yet to come by a workload that my 3820 can't handle in a reasonable amount of time.

AquinusTell me more about the inadequacies of my skt2011 i7 3820. You don't release something new and faster if the market isn't demanding it or if they don't have it. Also I have yet to come by a workload that my 3820 can't handle in a reasonable amount of time.

Yes, you are possibly right that the market is not jumping all over its head for new faster CPUs but that doesn't mean that these Haswell-E weren't finished very very long time ago and were ready for launch perhaps even last year.

I mean that this delay is artificial and shouldn't exist.

Sony Xperia SYes, you are possibly right that the market is not jumping all over its head for new faster CPUs but that doesn't mean that these Haswell-E weren't finished very very long time ago and were ready for launch perhaps even last year.

I mean that this delay is artificial and shouldn't exist.

Where is your source? How do you know that Intel already had it done, because I've seen nothing factual that indicates that. That's the assumption people are running on and I'm not sure if it's a good one.

...even if it's artificial, who cares? It's their company, if they decide to not release, they don't. If the market never demands it, then it will never come to fruition, whether it's done or not. We as consumers can't do a whole lot about something when a huge company practically controls the market.

None of this is an excuse to strictly go with AMD though, in fact if Intel keeps making their iGPUs faster, AMD won't have much of an edge at all over Intel which bothers me but if I have either performance or power saving (or particularly both) in mind, Intel is usually the better option. They aren't just as fast or faster than AMD CPUs, they consume less power doing the same thing. After a few years, the difference in power usage will pay for the Intel chip over the AMD CPU.

I personally would pay more up front and less later, than less up front and more later. You pay for a computer once when you make it or buy it where you pay you electricity bill every month until you're in the ground or broke.

Sony Xperia SYes, you are possibly right that the market is not jumping all over its head for new faster CPUs but that doesn't mean that these Haswell-E weren't finished very very long time ago and were ready for launch perhaps even last year.

I mean that this delay is artificial and shouldn't exist.

Probably right, but only buying AMD CPUs for the next ten years will not change the fact that AMD has nothing in that segment to apply pressure on Intel to release those HEDT CPUs faster. They're simply not focussing on that segment.

Sony Xperia STo be honest, Intel guys are very very late with those launches, should have launched those at least half an year ago.

Not fair and that's why YOU should consider AMD processors ONLY! :)

Half a year late with intel still equal 5 to 7 years ahead of Amd :) and like what was said earlier at this level price/performance (amd's trump card) is useless :nutkick:...

Surely they're not going with 4930K again? That has to be a typo, yeah?

BreitProbably right, but only buying AMD CPUs for the next ten years will not change the fact that AMD has nothing in that segment to apply pressure on Intel to release those HEDT CPUs faster. They're simply not focussing on that segment.

You mean for games, right? Because games are the applications which emphasize any inferiority of AMD processors compared to Intel's. As benchmarks actually show, AMD 8-core FXs perform pretty well in multi-threaded scenarios.

AMD has much less cash for R&D, cash that you all guys take from them by buying something else.

Regarding Intel's iGPUs, I would consider them seriously when they begin offering driver quality support at least compared to AMD ATi's.

.....we all know Ands story.....it's the same argument every article every comparison.... come up with something new.... until then...Dont really care...this is about Haswell E....

Sony Xperia SYou mean for games, right? Because games are the applications which emphasize any inferiority of AMD processors compared to Intel's. As benchmarks actually show, AMD 8-core FXs perform pretty well in multi-threaded scenarios.

AMD has much less cash for R&D, cash that you all guys take from them by buying something else.

Regarding Intel's iGPUs, I would consider them seriously when they begin offering driver quality support at least compared to AMD ATi's.

No, not only games, I mean EVERYTHING!

An 8-core/16-thread CPU from the HEDT line isn't the optimal gaming CPU except maybe for the highest end where at least 4 GPUs are involved. But even then a quad- or six-core is sufficient (same amount of PCIe links as the 8-core version). For everything else gaming related up to 2 GPUs, I think a good DC CPU (4790K) OC'd to 5+GHz will suffice. At least if game developers won't start using more than 4 threads simultaneously.

An 8-core chip will always be more challenging to overclock than an ordinary quadcore chip! So single-thread performance will probably be better with an OC'd DC CPU and so will gaming performance if you don't need lots of PCIe throughput.

BTW: HEDT CPUs don't even have iGPUs, so talking about that does not make any sense at all.

I am looking more forward to the 99 chipset than to the processors... : )

That excel chart is irrefutable evidence !! I mean look at the choice of colors, it's completely legit !! :rolleyes:

I'm actually looking forward to seeing how they perform whenever they get released. Seems like enthusiasts have been waiting forever to get some new hardware to play with.

Guys enough debating AMD and Intel...This is about the Haswell-E chips not which is better than the other. This is completely off topic...

I have been waiting for Haswell-E and X99 for a very long time now. I guess im getting the middle ground 6 Core/12 Thread CPU :(. I was really hoping to get a middle ground 8 core but I guess my dreams were crushed because I could never justify 1k for a CPU that was not a Xeon. Either way I cannot wait to purchase one of these bad boys to rebuild my rig around. Been wanting the dated X79 chipset to hit the road already and this new beast of a chipset to be released. I will be waiting at midnight on newegg to snatch one of these bad boys and motherboard up thats for sure!

GhostRyderGuys enough debating AMD and Intel...This is about the Haswell-E chips not which is better than the other. This is completely off topic...

I have been waiting for Haswell-E and X99 for a very long time now. I guess im getting the middle ground 6 Core/12 Thread CPU :(. I was really hoping to get a middle ground 8 core but I guess my dreams were crushed because I could never justify 1k for a CPU that was not a Xeon. Either way I cannot wait to purchase one of these bad boys to rebuild my rig around. Been wanting the dated X79 chipset to hit the road already and this new beast of a chipset to be released. I will be waiting at midnight on newegg to snatch one of these bad boys and motherboard up thats for sure!

Your current RIG is already OP :roll: But wanting new shiny hardware I can always understand :rockout:

LionheartYour current RIG is already OP :roll: But wanting new shiny hardware I can always understand :rockout:

Its not enough, its never enough... More...More...More Power!!!:D

But i've been waiting to swap out back to Intel anyway. 9590 was for fun and now its time for a heavy clocked 5930K at 5ghz. :peace:

GhostRyderIts not enough, its never enough... More...More...More Power!!!:D

But i've been waiting to swap out back to Intel anyway. 9590 was for fun and now its time for a heavy clocked 5930K at 5ghz. :peace:

That's never gonna happend when devil's canyon has a hard time hitting that with half the cores. I think Haswell-E will average 4.5Ghz for air and water OCs. Ivy-E already can't get to 5Ghz as it is so Haswell-e will be the same.

When these CPUs launch I'm just gonna raise my clocks back to 5Ghz and still have a CPU on par with a Haswell-e 6 core.

buildzoidThat's never gonna happend when devil's canyon has a hard time hitting that with half the cores. I think Haswell-E will average 4.5Ghz for air and water OCs. Ivy-E already can't get to 5Ghz as it is so Haswell-e will be the same.

Not with that attitude it won't.

buildzoidWhen these CPUs launch I'm just gonna raise my clocks back to 5Ghz and still have a CPU on par with a Haswell-e 6 core.

You have it listed at 5ghz bragger lol
But either way I meant more or less that is what I hoped for. I will get beyond 4.5 ghz for sure and probably up to 4.8 ghz. But its going to depend on how this E-series is done because this round theres an 8 core on the X and there are two 6 core models around. Will be interesting to see how they bin these chips because I believe that 4.6+ is going to be very easily done on these chips (Well at least the 5930k and beyond).

GhostRyderNot with that attitude it won't.

You have it listed at 5ghz bragger lol
But either way I meant more or less that is what I hoped for. I will get beyond 4.5 ghz for sure and probably up to 4.8 ghz. But its going to depend on how this E-series is done because this round theres an 8 core on the X and there are two 6 core models around. Will be interesting to see how they bin these chips because I believe that 4.6+ is going to be very easily done on these chips (Well at least the 5930k and beyond).

That's a SB-E not an IVB-E... learn to read his specs, 3960X @ 5.0Ghz. IVB-E is the one that can rarely hit 5ghz. He also has a custom water loop which makes achieving that a little easier.

A serious question to all of you "I want Haswell-E when it comes out!" people. What are you going to use that tower for? If it's only games, I'll be disappointed. It would be clearly a waste of a platform in that case. The only time I could see justifying this kind of platform for gaming is if you plan on doing surround and if money means very little to you. Just putting that out there because an 8c or even 6c Intel CPU won't be fully taxed by just about any game on the market and the only justification would be PCI-E lanes for 3 or 4 GPUs in which case, a quad core would still be perfectly viable.

[QUOTEA serious question to all of you "I want Haswell-E when it comes out!" people. What are you going to use that tower for? If it's only games, I'll be disappointed. It would be clearly a waste of a platform in that case. The only time I could see justifying this kind of platform for gaming is if you plan on doing surround and if money means very little to you. Just putting that out there because an 8c or even 6c Intel CPU won't be fully taxed by just about any game on the market and the only justification would be PCI-E lanes for 3 or 4 GPUs in which case, a quad core would still be perfectly viable.[/QUOTE]


perfectly logical from every angle......yet....in the face of ooohhh new and shiny .... it will always succumb to the later.:laugh: Don't think i've ever truly maxed out my i7-860..... for me this hobby is just a reward to me for all the hard work and challenges of life

ensabrenoirperfectly logical from every angle......yet....in the face of ooohhh new and shiny .... it will always succumb to the later.:laugh: Don't think i've ever truly maxed out my i7-860..... for me this hobby is just a reward to me for all the hard work and challenges of life

How about the 3820? I don't know about you, but I love mine. It's the best thing about skt2011 without breaking the bank. I thought about a 6c chip, but after thinking about it I didn't because even for my case (where I'm not mostly gaming) I decided against it and determined that 50% more cores didn't justify a 100% increase in price over the 3820. Just the price alone isn't worth it unless you need those cores and the simple fact is that currently games don't.

Also, I wish I had sufficiently expendable funds where I could invest in expensive hardware on a regular basis like @GhostRyder . :p

I also have to agree with @buildzoid on this one. I seriously doubt that Haswell-E will hit 5Ghz easily or without sub-zero cooling be it LN2 or phase change.

Edit: I apologize for all the updates. I keep thinking of more I want to say. :oops:

AquinusHow about the 3820? I don't know about you, but I love mine. It's the best thing about skt2011 without breaking the bank. I thought about a 6c chip, but after thinking about it I didn't because even for my case (where I'm not mostly gaming) I decided against it. Just the price alone isn't worth it unless you need those cores and games don't.

Honestly I got my 3820 as a place holder until the 6 core Ivy E came out. When it did.... I saw no reason to up grade. My 3820 was just too good. Went way over kill on my board though. For the light vid work i do(as a hobby) a quad is truly enough.....but that six core temptation is ever present....just because