Friday, April 22nd 2016

AMD to Custom-design CPUs for the Chinese Government

AMD could custom-design enterprise CPUs for the Chinese Government. The move was announced in the company's latest quarterly results. China's quest for its "own" hardware and software running government and state-run companies and institutions, hit a roadblock with the government's inability to come up with a reliable enterprise processor, particularly one that runs on the x86 architecture. That need could be fulfilled by Sunnyvale, California-based AMD; which could design special enterprise CPUs under close supervision of the Chinese authorities under a joint-venture with a state-run company. This deal could earn AMD USD $293 million in cash.

In a joint venture between AMD and THATIC (Tianjin Haiguang Advanced Technology Investment Co., Ltd.), AMD's x86 expertise could be put to use in developing everything between tiny SoCs to large, multi-socket CPUs that drive enterprise machines (data-centers, HPC farms, military cyber infrastructure), for the Chinese government, and state-run companies. At this point, neither of the companies are commenting on which kind of x86 core architecture from AMD could be adopted. AMD has two distinct types of x86 cores, low-power, high-density cores such as "Jaguar," which can be found on devices such as the Sony PlayStation 4, and large modular cores such as the ones found on its FX-series and Opteron X-series CPUs.
Source: Forbes
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61 Comments on AMD to Custom-design CPUs for the Chinese Government

#1
the54thvoid
The world of corporate communism and political oppression welcomes AMD to its fold.

We always knew (or get told) Nvidia is evil so at least AMD can join the state funded chicanery.

One in the eye for the banner waving 'AMD are charitable saints and in no way a private company seeking wealth' brigade.

FWIW, any Intel or Nvidia do they same replies don't matter as this post is all about why they're all the same.
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#4
ZoneDymo
the54thvoid, post: 3448118, member: 79251"
The world of corporate communism and political oppression welcomes AMD to its fold.

We always knew (or get told) Nvidia is evil so at least AMD can join the state funded chicanery.

One in the eye for the banner waving 'AMD are charitable saints and in no way a private company seeking wealth' brigade.

FWIW, any Intel or Nvidia do they same replies don't matter as this post is all about why they're all the same.
ermm...what?
I guess the lesson here is: Don't drink and post
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#5
NC37
In Communist China, CPUs process you!
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#6
Caring1
NC37, post: 3448127, member: 61225"
In Communist China, CPUs process you!
So do BIOS's, Routers and Hard Drives with their "special" firmware.
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#7
Ferrum Master
So a reminder... don't do suspicious s*it on any kind of smart internet connected device... if you need it actually.
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#8
Xzibit
WSJ
Under the deal, AMD said it had licensed x86 chip technology to a new venture it is forming with Tianjin Haiguang Advanced Technology Investment Co., which will use the technology to develop chips for server systems to be sold only in China. In exchange, AMD said it expects to receive $293 million in licensing fees plus royalties on sales of any chips developed by the venture.
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#9
RejZoR
Good for them. China is big, if China will depend on AMD for the CPU's, that could be a big business opportunity for them. I just hope they'll cash it in properly. I just fear this is a one time deal and then China will just copy the design. I mean, we all know how China goes these days...
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#10
john_
Intel is already doing it with Sofia SOCs. AMD is doing it with server CPUs. Nothing strange here. Intel was targeting the mobile market, and AMD is targeting the server market.
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#11
Xzibit
Dejavu
Today, Intel announced a new joint venture to design chips through a research partnership with Tsinghua University and Montage Technology Global Holdings. Intel will put $100 million into the venture. The deal arrives just after rival Qualcomm announced it would codesign ARM-based server chips in a $280 million joint venture with a province in China.
Intel Newsroom - Intel, Tsinghua University and Montage Technology Collaborate to Bring Indigenous Data Center Solutions to China
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#12
HumanSmoke
john_, post: 3448144, member: 137560"
Intel is already doing it with Sofia SOCs. AMD is doing it with server CPUs. Nothing strange here. Intel was targeting the mobile market, and AMD is targeting the server market.
So long as those server deployments don't contravene the list of workloads deemed offensive to the U.S. The China+Intel friendship has already been reined in in some HPC deployments - it wouldn't be hard to see the same measures being taken here if the products end up irking the U.S. Government
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#13
Basard
ZoneDymo, post: 3448122, member: 66089"
ermm...what?
I guess the lesson here is: Don't drink and post
Kinda takes all the fun out of it.... :(:laugh:
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#14
silentbogo
Apparently China lost its interest in Russian Elbrus-8C CPU, which gets re-announced every 6 months since 2014 :slap:
Good for AMD
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#15
xkm1948
Funny some people still think China is communist country.
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#16
GhostRyder
Well, lets hope they get quite a big amount of bucks for this not only up front but from the royalties. Its something!
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#17
mouacyk
xkm1948, post: 3448235, member: 50521"
Funny some people still think China is communist country.
Just because they don't practice it everyday doesn't make them not communist. If some people still think China is communist, that is wisely based on the fact that we don't know the floor or ceiling to their laws.
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#18
the54thvoid
xkm1948, post: 3448235, member: 50521"
Funny some people still think China is communist country.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_China

It is. It rules under that auspice. It is also has a protectionism favouring capitalist economy.

Don't confuse capitalism with democracy. And on that front democracy is also not to be confused with a free egalitarian society.
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#19
cdawall
where the hell are my stars
Well under communism everyone is equal so what they just said is amd is equal to Intel because China says so. Boom.
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#20
the54thvoid
cdawall, post: 3448247, member: 28601"
Well under communism everyone is equal so what they just said is amd is equal to Intel because China says so. Boom.
But some are more equal than others.
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#21
Casecutter
RejZoR, post: 3448142, member: 1515"
I just fear this is a one time deal and then China will just copy the design. I mean, we all know how China goes these days...
I would think bedding with any entity where they're getting deep into the inter-sanctum of your intellectual property it might be a dance with the devil. If I was AMD I'd think they'd be smart to work from their second tier and/or mature technology. I'd look to build a China chip that targets the specific enterprise tasks and the software used.

I'm not sure how the x86 architecture/licensing would work, I'm sure Intel will have something to say about all this
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#22
SK-1
Better Dead than RED
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#23
dont whant to set it"'
Since it's a tech related arcticle(yeah software too, damned be the lag), shit like this public can t be treu, or is it? [hretorical]
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#24
cdawall
where the hell are my stars
the54thvoid, post: 3448253, member: 79251"
But some are more equal than others.
Right now amd would be the more equal since they are buying them.

I would be curious since they have a say in it if China will copy Intel chips and make amd produce them. That is the Chinese thing to do.
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#25
ensabrenoir
GhostRyder, post: 3448237, member: 149328"
Well, lets hope they get quite a big amount of bucks for this not only up front but from the royalties. Its something!
....I hope the same thing every time they partner/colab/win a new contract.......then those quarterly results reports come out..........
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