Thursday, October 20th 2016

AMD Readying an Answer to GeForce GTX 1050 Ti

With the arrival of the GeForce GTX 1050 Ti and GTX 1050, the sub-$150 graphics card market is beginning to heat up. AMD is finding itself with a price-performance gorge between the Radeon RX 460 and the RX 470. Citing multiple sources, VideoCardz suspects that AMD is up to something - a new Polaris 10 "Ellesmere" based SKU positioned between the RX 460 and RX 470, referred to either as the "RX 465" or the "RX 470 SE."

The new SKU is further cut down from the Polaris 10 stack, in a bid to lower TDP below the 100W mark, to around 90W. The chip features 1,792 stream processors across 28 Graphics CoreNext compute units (CUs), out of the 36 CUs physically present on the chip. The RX 470 features 32 CUs, while the RX 480 maxes out all available CUs. AMD is leaving the memory bus untouched. It features 4 GB of GDDR5 memory across a 256-bit wide memory interface, ticking at 7.00 GHz (GDDR5-effective), churning up 224 GB/s of memory bandwidth - double that of the GTX 1050 series. There's also talk of yet another SKU, with 1,536 stream processors (24/36 CUs enabled), which AMD could position against the GTX 1050 (non-Ti).
A quick trot through 3DMark Fire Strike Extreme and 3DMark Time Spy scores released by a ChipHell Forums user with access to a sample, reveals that stock speeds and 100% power-limit, the 1,792-SP SKU is about 11 percent slower than the RX 470 4 GB in Fire Strike Extreme, and about 11.7 percent slower at Time Spy. It's expected that should this card outperform the GTX 1050 Ti, AMD could position it competitive yet slightly higher than the US $139 NVIDIA is asking for its card.Sources: ChipHell, VideoCardz
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31 Comments on AMD Readying an Answer to GeForce GTX 1050 Ti

#1
AlienIsGOD
interesting, i always thought they wouldn't just run 3 cards in the RX series before Vega arrives
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#2
champsilva
Well preety much same graphics score as RX 470 Gaming X

The reference cards should do around 3.5, so should we expect very similar performance?

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#3
ShurikN
And it shall be named.......... RX 465!!!!
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#4
FordGT90Concept
"I go fast!1!11!1!"
Why not RX 460X? The 5s were generally reserved for new silicon.
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#5
sutyi
FordGT90Concept said:
Why not RX 460X? The 5s were generally reserved for new silicon.
RX470LE. :P
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#6
lanlagger
how about 20$ price cut... it will be cheaper for AMD to do that... then to push another useles product n between (that anyway will be a gimped rx 470 with you gessed it a -20$ price tag)
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#7
cdawall
where the hell are my stars
lanlagger said:
how about 20$ price cut... it will be cheaper for AMD to do that... then to push another useles product n between (that anyway will be a gimped rx 470 with you gessed it a -20$ price tag)
I agree with this just cut the 470 price and move on.
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#8
lorraine walsh
I hope there's coming a GTX 1050 4GB Version on laptops, and the 1050 TI as well, so we can get more affordable laptops, the 1060 laptops are really overpriced. And i think only 2GB is a huge fail nowadays...
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#9
P4-630
The Way It's Meant to be Played
lorraine walsh said:
I hope there's coming a GTX 1050 4GB Version on laptops, and the 1050 TI as well, so we can get more affordable laptops, the 1060 laptops are really overpriced. And i think only 2GB is a huge fail nowadays...
I even have 3GB on my GTX770M...
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#10
Liviu Cojocaru
lanlagger said:
how about 20$ price cut... it will be cheaper for AMD to do that... then to push another useles product n between (that anyway will be a gimped rx 470 with you gessed it a -20$ price tag)
I guess the RX470 is selling way too good to cut the price...
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#11
bug
Hm, at 100W TDP, this will still need a 6 pin connector. It won't compare favourably with the 1050Ti.
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#12
$ReaPeR$
its weird seeing AMD pulling an Nvidia.. these new cards will probably be the perf/dollar kings, should help prices go down.
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#13
HD64G
Competition is ALWAYS good for us customers...
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#14
Captain_Tom
bug said:
Hm, at 100W TDP, this will still need a 6 pin connector. It won't compare favourably with the 1050Ti.
Haha why? Most 1050 Ti's are coming with a 6-pin, and the 1050 Ti will likely only be 10-20% stronger than the 460.

The 470SE rumored specs put it as a 100w card that is easily 20 - 30% stronger than its slightly lower-power rival.
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#15
Casecutter
lanlagger said:
how about 20$ price cut... it will be cheaper for AMD to do that... then to push another useles product n between (that anyway will be a gimped rx 470 with you gessed it a -20$ price tag)
I'm sure RGT has some bins of chips that don't make the count, so why not use them up to cut into the market and get paid. As was the Tahiti they turned into a 7870 XT. They don't need to make sku of long term just sell what they have.
The RX 460 XT isn't a bad naming convention.

bug said:
Hm, at 100W TDP, this will still need a 6 pin connector. It won't compare favourably with the 1050Ti.
The article said 90W and is really that important not to have a 6pin. We all know like the 750Ti almost every custom card got a 6-pin, while most either didn't work without it connected or went to the reference spec.
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#16
bug
Captain_Tom said:
Haha why? Most 1050 Ti's are coming with a 6-pin, and the 1050 Ti will likely only be 10-20% stronger than the 460.
Because if you're building a HTPC or something, you'll want the one that doesn't require an extra cable in your case and AMD cannot deliver that (but you already knew that).

Captain_Tom said:
The 470SE rumored specs put it as a 100w card that is easily 20 - 30% stronger than its slightly lower-power rival.
Gee, I'm glad you're talking about rumored specs, but you know the performance for sure. I was afraid you're talking out of your behind. And slightly lower power? From 75 to 100W there's a 33% difference. That's going to impact the cooling solution, if nothing else.
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#17
Captain_Tom
bug said:
Because if you're building a HTPC or something, you'll want the one that doesn't require an extra cable in your case and AMD cannot deliver that (but you already knew that).



Gee, I'm glad you're talking about rumored specs, but you know the performance for sure. I was afraid you're talking out of your behind. And slightly lower power? From 75 to 100W there's a 33% difference. That's going to impact the cooling solution, if nothing else.
Feel free to remind me of my mistake in the future if I am wrong.

And I will remember to laugh at you're rejection of common sense when it turns out I was right. ;)
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#18
bug
Captain_Tom said:
Feel free to remind me of my mistake in the future if I am wrong.

And I will remember to laugh at you're rejection of common sense when it turns out I was right. ;)
Wow, your (sic!) arguments, sir, are irrefutable. I stand corrected.
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#19
Vayra86
Well, they want price performance kings in this segment. If they have chips that they can use like this, why not? It's just a different cut of the same silicon.
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#20
Estaric
They are really brave imo to do this what if 1050ti is faster than they expect
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#21
Supercrit
Do they really have that many defective chips or had to manually disable the shaders?
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#22
cdawall
where the hell are my stars
Supercrit said:
Do they really have that many defective chips or had to manually disable the shaders?
Going off of past AMD experience and what consumers have been able to unlock no.
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#24
IceScreamer
This might be my next GPU, if it ever comes to Europe that is. Was gonna get the RX460 but it turned out to be weaker than expected.
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#25
FordGT90Concept
"I go fast!1!11!1!"
That is a pretty big gap between 470 and 460.
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