Thursday, December 29th 2016

AMD's Upcoming Ryzen Chips to Reportedly Overclock @ 5 GHz On Air

French hardware magazine "CANARD PC HARDWARE" has apparently confirmed that AMD's upcoming Ryzen chips will be able to achieve overclocks of at least 5 GHz on air, if an easter egg hidden on the magazine's Ryzen feature. On page 10 of the digital magazine (which you can look at on the provided link) as well as the physical version, a cryptic string of binary code can be found on top of the page (for reference, the string is as follows: 010110100110010101101110010011110100001101000000010000010110100101110010001111010011010101000111). When you paste this string of binary code on any online binary to plain text converter, you get a revelation that's sure to put a little more coal on the hype train's furnace: ZenOC@Air=5G.
Apparently, the entire article is premised on an early engineering sample that the magazine managed to put its hands on - so we're not even talking about final-stepping silicon. Granted, the information, left as more of an Easter egg tease than a reveal onto itself, raises more questions than it answers (as any good, hype-generating event always does): at what voltage were the 5 GHz achieved at? How many cores did the Ryzen sample possess? Were they all operational? Was it a stable overclock? If so, for how long? What cooling solution was used?

There are potentially many more questions left unanswered by this tease, but nevertheless, this seems like a good sign for the Ryzen bandwagon.
Sources: Reddit; user lolwut996633, Reddit; user DotaldTrump
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90 Comments on AMD's Upcoming Ryzen Chips to Reportedly Overclock @ 5 GHz On Air

#51
TheMailMan78
Big Member
I like you guys. Y'all got moxy. I'm sure this time will be different. I'm sure AMD with It's vastly smaller resources is gonna beat the big bad Intel. It will be a technology style David and Goliath.

A story for the ages indeed.....lol
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#52
Melvis
Well feck me, I was wondering how far these new Zen CPU's will clock and this is beyond what I was expecting! Now im very impressed!
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#53
yoyo2004
Forget about 5 GHz, I think having Rayzen 8c/16 running at 4GHz is more than enough to beat all intel's offerings in gaming. My 2 cents.
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#54
R-T-B
TheMailMan78I like you guys. Y'all got moxy. I'm sure this time will be different. I'm sure AMD with It's vastly smaller resources is gonna beat the big bad Intel. It will be a technology style David and Goliath.

A story for the ages indeed.....lol
I hate to dissapoint both of you fanboys here apparently, but I'm fairly confident from what I am seeing it will be more of a "meh" type thing.

It won't rock. It won't suck, either.

At least, it won't suck like bulldozer or the latest batch, but it's not going to be the end-all either. It's just going to be a good price-performance product.
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#55
HopelesslyFaithful
RejZoRIt's not even about who got to 5GHz first or whatever, it's about the idea Ryzen CPU's can't clock high which is why they run it at such low clocks. Which apparently shows it's not true and it's like that just for stock models. Just like my 5820K runs at crappy clocks, but can be easily OC'ed to 4.5GHz and beyond.
nooooo a 5820K does not easily OC to 4.5GHz and beyond. You live in a dream world. 4.4GHz is the average.

My 1650v3 and most other will tell you only the best of the best chips on air or water get 4.5GHz stable.
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#56
Frick
Fishfaced Nincompoop
R-T-BI hate to dissapoint both of you fanboys here apparently, but I'm fairly confident from what I am seeing it will be more of a "meh" type thing.

It won't rock. It won't suck, either.

At least, it won't suck like bulldozer or the latest batch, but it's not going to be the end-all either. It's just going to be a good price-performance product.
I am assuming a decent price-performance ratio. Haswell IPC, or thereabouts, and the octocore will be within €200 of an equivalent Intel octocore, meaning €850 or so.
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#57
RejZoR
HopelesslyFaithfulnooooo a 5820K does not easily OC to 4.5GHz and beyond. You live in a dream world. 4.4GHz is the average.

My 1650v3 and most other will tell you only the best of the best chips on air or water get 4.5GHz stable.
Just like my 5820K runs at crappy clocks, but can be easily OC'ed to 4.5GHz and beyond.

Understanding what you read can be helpful...
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#58
rhythmeister
petepete...To be one of the best in the world at something you gotta have the best products, unfortunately it was always Intel...
Athlon MP/ XP/ 64X2 anyone?
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#59
os2wiz
RaevenlordFrench hardware magazine "CANARD PC HARDWARE" has apparently confirmed that AMD's upcoming Ryzen chips will be able to achieve overclocks of at least 5 GHz on air, if an easter egg hidden on the magazine's Ryzen feature. On page 10 of the digital magazine (which you can look at on the provided link) as well as the physical version, a cryptic string of binary code can be found on top of the page (for reference, the string is as follows: 010110100110010101101110010011110100001101000000010000010110100101110010001111010011010101000111). When you paste this string of binary code on any online binary to plain text converter, you get a revelation that's sure to put a little more coal on the hype train's furnace: ZenOC@Air=5G.



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Apparently, the entire article is premised on an early engineering sample that the magazine managed to put its hands on - so we're not even talking about final-stepping silicon. Granted, the information, left as more of an Easter egg tease than a reveal onto itself, raises more questions than it answers (as any good, hype-generating event always does): at what voltage were the 5 GHz achieved at? How many cores did the Ryzen sample possess? Were they all operational? Was it a stable overclock? If so, for how long? What cooling solution was used?

There are potentially many more questions left unanswered by this tease, but nevertheless, this seems like a good sign for the Ryzen bandwagon.

Source: Reddit; user lolwut996633, Reddit; user DotaldTrump
As the reference to a 5 GHZ overclock on air does not mention how many cores I assume if it has any truth it is only 1 core. I still highly doubt this information as the 14nm LPP node of GF is not a high performance node, nothing at all like the node of 32nm FD SOI of piledriver. It is a low power node with a narrow band of optimal performance. My guess is even with a custom liquid loop it will not come close to a 5 GHZ overclock on all 8 cores. More likely 3.9 to 4.0 GHZ at best. The hype that has surfaced lately has to be dampened. Ryzen is a very good chip, but it is not going to teleport us to the other end of the solar system.
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#60
petedread
RejZoRIt's not even about who got to 5GHz first or whatever, it's about the idea Ryzen CPU's can't clock high which is why they run it at such low clocks. Which apparently shows it's not true and it's like that just for stock models. Just like my 5820K runs at crappy clocks, but can be easily OC'ed to 4.5GHz and beyond.
^^this
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#61
VulkanBros
Hmm my FX-9590 was running fine on air with 5 GHz and 5.2 GHz with a H110 - so why should the ZEN not do that??
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#62
ZeroFM
VulkanBrosHmm my FX-9590 was running fine on air with 5 GHz and 5.2 GHz with a H110 - so why should the ZEN not do that??
I agree , AMD has a lot experience run CPU insane high GHz
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#63
champsilva
VulkanBrosHmm my FX-9590 was running fine on air with 5 GHz and 5.2 GHz with a H110 - so why should the ZEN not do that??
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Maybe, just maybe, the reason is because your CPU is already on 5ghz when turbo is enabled?

The H110 is a hell out a beast CPU cooler. Try overclock your 9590 to 6.9ghz and tell me the results

3.4ghz + 47% = 5.0ghz
4.7ghz + 47% = 6.9ghz
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#64
VulkanBros
champsilva\
Maybe, just maybe, the reason is because your CPU is already on 5ghz when turbo is enabled?

The H110 is a hell out a beast CPU cooler. Try overclock your 9590 to 6.9ghz and tell me the results

3.4ghz + 47% = 5.0ghz
4.7ghz + 47% = 6.9ghz
Not going to happen. I play games, run DB´s and crunch on it. It runs 24/7 with 5.2 GHz and is stable.
I have tried to push it - the max was around 5.6 GHz - but was not stable. Sure if it´s only to see how high it can go for a moment,
but not recommendable for everyday use.
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#66
infrared
Woooo, lets all obsess and argue over an arbitrary number that is only half the equation for performance and may or may not be attainable anyway.

Although judging from the blender benchmark the IPC will be good, so if it does OC well AMD are on to a winner. Hopefully anyway.
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#67
Bert63
The only thing sure with AMD is they consistently over-promise and under-deliver.
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#69
Konceptz
If the price tag is over $300, you might as well go Intel......
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#70
infrared
KonceptzIf the price tag is over $300, you might as well go Intel......
Not if you get 8 cores with the same performance per core (ie 2x performance over 6700k)

We'll only know for sure when they actually get released I guess. Until then it's all speculation :)
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#72
kruk
Bert63The only thing sure with AMD is they consistently over-promise and under-deliver.
Any recent examples? Thanks!
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#73
FlanK3r
5 GHz Ryzen AIR - not real. Thats all.
4.2-4.4 GHz could be doable at all cores.
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#74
infrared
FlanK3r5 GHz Ryzen AIR - not real. Thats all.
4.2-4.4 GHz could be doable at all cores.
Nobody will know until release, I wish everyone would stop pulling random numbers out of their back sides!
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#75
TheoneandonlyMrK
TheMailMan78I like you guys. Y'all got moxy. I'm sure this time will be different. I'm sure AMD with It's vastly smaller resources is gonna beat the big bad Intel. It will be a technology style David and Goliath.

A story for the ages indeed.....lol
I can get 5ghz all cores gaming not folding stable ,out of mine on air so long as said air cooler is massive and top notch so on the one hand entirely feasible to me but likely to require a good chip either way.
Also said air cooler ,what's it ,OEM or bad ass flat out crazy one it matters so much ,only time will tell.
The rumour mill suggests Intel is sitting on nothing special until they re-archetect x86.
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