Wednesday, January 18th 2017

Sapphire Launches 1024 SP Version of RX 460 - Full Polaris 11 at 1250 MHz

As TPU has reported before, some versions of AMD's RX 460 graphics cards were able to be unlocked to their full configuration with a simple BIOS update. This raised some questions as to why AMD didn't initially launch the RX 460 as such, increasing their competitiveness against rival NVIDIA's offerings, but now, it seems at least one of AMD's AIB partners has decided to take action in releasing a fully unlocked Polaris 11 GPU.

Marketed as the Sapphire Radeon RX 460 Nitro OC, this is the first officially launched retail version of the full, unlocked Polaris 11 chip, with all of its stream processors unlocked, for a grand total of 1024 SPs against the usual, and much more meager, 896. This brings the card's peak theoretical throughput at 2.56 TFLOPs (versus the base 2.2 TFLOPs on the 896 SP version), while keeping the card's 75 W TDP.
Expect this unlocked version of the RX 460 to deliver on average 7% greater performance than its original, 896 SP enabled part, with a pretty negligible increase in power consumption, as our testing shows.
There's no word on pricing or availability yet, but these are expected to hit the market around $119 US. Whether or not this one counts as a region-specific launch (much like the Radeon RX 470D which is only available in the APAC [Asia Pacific] region) is yet to be seen.
Source: WCCFTech
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33 Comments on Sapphire Launches 1024 SP Version of RX 460 - Full Polaris 11 at 1250 MHz

#1
Lionheart
Should of done this from the start unless AMD had trouble or was concerned with PCIE power limitations
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#2
jabbadap
Why not call it RX 465 like it should though. And that sapphire Nitro has 6-pin connector so it's probably more close to 90Ws like that Asus strix reviewed by tpu. Not that tdp of 75W is not possible, it would just gap the performance quite heavily.
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#3
dj-electric
There's actually quite a gap between RX 460 and RX 470, I would suggest saving RX 465 for something that maybe has 1280 shaders
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#4
chaosmassive
LionheartShould of done this from the start unless AMD had trouble or was concerned with PCIE power limitations
In my opinion, AMD prioritize fully enabled Polaris 11 for Apple first, during binning AMD found some defect on core
and decided to repackaged as RX 460, once defective chips start to running out
another way to keep steady supply chips configured for RX 460
for sake of 'uniformity' is disable some cores to bring performance same

and once Apple demand has been fulfilled AMD start marketing 1024 cores version,
although I prefer they branded as RX 460 XT or something like that
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#5
hojnikb
jabbadapWhy not call it RX 465 like it should though. And that sapphire Nitro has 6-pin connector so it's probably more close to 90Ws like that Asus strix reviewed by tpu. Not that tdp of 75W is not possible, it would just gap the performance quite heavily.
465 would imply a newer core, which 460 1024sp isn't.
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#6
Steevo
hojnikb465 would imply a newer core, which 460 1024sp isn't.
When has the lack of a new core ever stopped either company from re-branding anything?

It is a different shader count, so yeah, the 465 would have been better, especially if they put on a better cooler and a bit more voltage control for a higher overclock at a low price point.
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#7
hojnikb
SteevoWhen has the lack of a new core ever stopped either company from re-branding anything?
It's not a rebrand though and naming 465 existing core would go against their own naming scheme
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#8
thekaidis
I wonder why this isn't called the 460X.
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#9
TheLaughingMan
This is the kinda of stuff that makes buying a graphics card far more complicated than it should be.
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#10
hojnikb
TheLaughingManThis is the kinda of stuff that makes buying a graphics card far more complicated than it should be.
Buy a console then.
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#11
jabbadap
hojnikbIt's not a rebrand though and naming 465 existing core would go against their own naming scheme
How come? RX 560 would go against their new naming scheme(RX GTR):
RX: >1.5TFlops fp32+100GB/sec memory bandwidth, G:Generation, T:Tier and R:revision
So RX 465 would match quite good being same generation polaris 11 but a new revision, with new core config.
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#12
Dimi
For 120$, you could almost get a 1050 Ti that trashes this card.

125$ for a Gigabyte 1050 Ti on newegg.
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#13
MaenadFIN
S.T.A.R.S.
RX460X/XT would be a fine name for this, just like the 7870XT back in the day to not confuse it with the normal 7870..
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#14
zo0lykas
jess what a bullshit, all post about what card name should be..
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#15
hojnikb
9700 ProRX460X/XT would be a fine name for this, just like the 7870XT back in the day to not confuse it with the normal 7870..
Actually, 7870xt was never named 7870xt officially, this was just a nickname.
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#16
eidairaman1
The Exiled Airman
I suspect the original 460s will be phased out. This isn't much different than a card with 4 or 8GB ram.
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#17
Casecutter
Dimi125$ for a Gigabyte 1050 Ti on newegg.
Well that's just a single fan stock clocks, with a generic radial extrusion cooler working a $10 Rebate.

Put that against a Sapphire Nitro RX460 4Gb (1250Mhz Boost) for $110 -AR$10.
www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202227

When the TPU Data base is showing a 1050Ti at 6% higher than a RX460 (stock to stock probably) and perhaps that was before Relive Drivers. I'd love to see that match-up on a budget i3/8350 box and with settings that have the 1050Ti hitting 50-60 Fps, and then the RX460 running the same with the likes of say 15+ titles.
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#18
TheLaughingMan
hojnikbBuy a console then.
Huh? Yeah, no. Not sure what you mean by that.
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#19
danbert2000
CasecutterWhen the TPU Data base is showing a 1050Ti at 6% higher than a RX460 (stock to stock probably) and perhaps that was before Relive Drivers. I'd love to see that match-up on a budget i3/8350 box and with settings that have the 1050Ti hitting 50-60 Fps, and then the RX460 running the same with the likes of say 15+ titles.
You must be mistaking the 1050 Ti with the 1050, it's actually something like 33% faster than the 460. Now, if your're spending $120 you could probably save a bit for a 470, but in no way is the 460 a smart purchase compared to a barebones 1050 Ti.



www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GTX_1050_Ti_Strix_OC/29.html

As for the new 460, I guess changing up number of shaders with the same product name is in vogue. This is similar to the 1060 3GB/6GB split that Nvidia was pushing, but until other manufacturers follow it's a much smaller problem. I wonder why Nvidia and AMD are so scared of differentiating their products intelligently. 460X or 465 would have made much more sense than some obscure OC version that you'd have to do a lot of research to know to buy over the other 460's.
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#20
Casecutter
danbert2000You must be mistaking the 1050 Ti with the 1050,
Interesting... check here!
www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/2885/geforce-gtx-1050-ti

While that 1050Ti Strix was was before Relive, and while yea that only bumps it like 2.5% across W1zzard title list, I'd still would like to see the actual match-up I laid out on a more budget friendly set-up with realistic settings.

I mean sure there must be a good reason for needing to pay $157 (after a $20 rebate) for the Asus 1050Ti Strix (price at Egg today), which is 43% more than the Nitro above.

Though you're correct if your willing to drop that amount of cash, then this will save $15 and another $5 shipping, all while seeing a 25% improvement.
www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B01JNTXM2Q
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#21
danbert2000
CasecutterInteresting... check here!
www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/2885/geforce-gtx-1050-ti
I mean, clearly that database is incorrect. They don't even have the 1050 listed, so I'm assuming they screwed it up too. You can point to incorrect data all you want but the link I provided has actual tests with the stock performance of the 1050 ti, which was what I was comparing to. Not the Asus Strix. The $125 Gigabyte card will perform at that stock speed or better. And thus, spending $10 more for 30% better performance is literally a no-brainer.

I'm not sure what you're trying to achieve by pretending the 460 is a good card. It's clear in the recent reviews that the 1050 ti beats it by 10+ fps in newer games. Also, the ReLive review here mentioned that the performance boost was between 0-3% for AMD cards, that's not going to make any appreciable difference when the 1050 ti is 30% faster. Even AMD positions this card as nothing more than MOBA and CS:GO worthy.

Even DOOM is 20% faster on the 1050 ti, and that is the absolute best case scenario for Polaris cards. Case closed.


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#22
kruk
danbert2000I'm not sure what you're trying to achieve by pretending the 460 is a good card. It's clear in the recent reviews that the 1050 ti beats it by 10+ fps in newer games. Also, the ReLive review here mentioned that the performance boost was between 0-3% for AMD cards, that's not going to make any appreciable difference when the 1050 ti is 30% faster. Even AMD positions this card as nothing more than MOBA and CS:GO worthy.
So 1050 Ti is more than MOBA and CS:GO worthy at 1080p? Look here at the FPS in new games: www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Gigabyte/GTX_1050_Ti_G1_Gaming
True cinematic experience. And you can get a RX 460 for $89.99 on Newegg. Suddenly you are not spending 10$ more, but 35$ more. Still a no-brainer? :)
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#23
Sempron Guy
Before going through the lengths arguing, you guys should know the product is targeted for mainland china so as usual it won't see the light of day elsewhere.
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#24
evernessince
danbert2000I'm not sure what you're trying to achieve by pretending the 460 is a good card. It's clear in the recent reviews that the 1050 ti beats it by 10+ fps in newer games. Also, the ReLive review here mentioned that the performance boost was between 0-3% for AMD cards, that's not going to make any appreciable difference when the 1050 ti is 30% faster. Even AMD positions this card as nothing more than MOBA and CS:GO worthy.

Even DOOM is 20% faster on the 1050 ti, and that is the absolute best case scenario for Polaris cards. Case closed.


I'm not sure why you are trying to pretend the 1050 Ti is in the same price bracket as the RX 460. You are comparing a $100 card to a $150 card. That's 50% more for much less than 50% performance. Not to mention the RX 470 (litterally $10 - 20 more) is around the same price as the 1050 Ti so if you are going to recommend the 1050 you might as well just recommend the RX 470 instead. Now that is much better bang for your buck.
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#25
jabbadap
evernessinceI'm not sure why you are trying to pretend the 1050 Ti is in the same price bracket as the RX 460. You are comparing a $100 card to a $150 card. That's 50% more for much less than 50% performance. Not to mention the RX 470 (litterally $10 - 20 more) is around the same price as the 1050 Ti so if you are going to recommend the 1050 you might as well just recommend the RX 470 instead. Now that is much better bang for your buck.
RX 460 4GB version starts from $120 not $100. And gtx1050ti starts from $135 not $150.
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