Monday, February 20th 2017
NVIDIA to Steal AMD's Ryzen Limelight on Feb 28
NVIDIA could attempt to steal the limelight from AMD's 2017 "Capsaicin & Cream" launch event for its Ryzen desktop processors, slated for February 28, with a parallel GeForce GTX event along the sidelines of the 2017 Game Developers' Conference (GDC). At this event, the company is expected to launch its next enthusiast-segment graphics card, the GeForce GTX 1080 Ti. This could at least be a paper-launch, with market availability following through in March.
While the GTX 1080 Ti is a graphics card, and Ryzen a processor (they don't compete), NVIDIA's choice of launch-date could certainly steal some attention away from AMD's big day. Besides launching Ryzen, it wouldn't surprise us if AMD teases its upcoming Radeon "Vega" graphics cards a little more. The GeForce GTX 1080 Ti is expected to be based on the same "GP102" silicon as the company's flagship TITAN X Pascal graphics card, and could be positioned very close to the USD $1,000 mark, given that NVIDIA priced the TITAN X Pascal at a wallet-scorching $1,199.
Sources:
IO-Tech, NordicHardware
While the GTX 1080 Ti is a graphics card, and Ryzen a processor (they don't compete), NVIDIA's choice of launch-date could certainly steal some attention away from AMD's big day. Besides launching Ryzen, it wouldn't surprise us if AMD teases its upcoming Radeon "Vega" graphics cards a little more. The GeForce GTX 1080 Ti is expected to be based on the same "GP102" silicon as the company's flagship TITAN X Pascal graphics card, and could be positioned very close to the USD $1,000 mark, given that NVIDIA priced the TITAN X Pascal at a wallet-scorching $1,199.
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I'm not budging from my 980 TI, unless Vega has a SKU that can offer +50%.
BTW; The most efficient Pascal is >80% more efficient than the most efficient Polaris. There is no way Vega will close the whole gap.I never said it was, and if you actually read my post you'll see I argued it would be unfortunate for Nvidia to release it at the same time.
I think it's moreso the case that they're piggybacking off of AMD and not trying to steal the limelight.
Power consumption difference between 480 and 1060 is about 20%.
"most efficient" vs "most efficient" is a silly comparison, as one might even not be comparing cards from the same tier.
1) that has rather remarkable power consumption difference (compared to majority of sites) with 480 consuming even more than 1070
2) has messed up charts (arithmetic mean instead of geometric)
3) 480 gained a lot of perf after that
Check recent reviews of AIBs in power consumption in actual games with actual drivers. E.g. on computerbase.Bullshit, even if you'd omit vega, which you can't know shit for sure about, in that ridiculous sentence.
You claim RX 480 has gained a lot since that, well it has not. It has gained a few percent here in select games and there through driver tweaks, but so has the competition too. The performance gap between RX 480 and GTX 1060 remain unchanged.What? Try reading your own post before submitting.
Vega 10 has to compete with GP104, so the efficiency of GP104 is the benchmark. GTX 1080 is 80% more efficient than RX 480, so that's the gap AMD need to close. I also want to remind you that even though AMD promised ~2.5× performance/watt with Polaris, it was just a few percent more efficient than Fiji, and that's even with a node shrink! For comparison, the "boring" Pascal achieved a massive gain in efficiency vs. Maxwell. Try reading the numbers yourself.:rolleyes:
www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/73945-gtx-1060-vs-rx-480-updated-review.html
It improved for two reasons:
1) Ref card was poor (throttling)
2) Driver bump
Oh, 290x is faster than 780Ti nowadays, isn't it? Miracle.Yeah, "has not". And for the power consumption, Anno game, total system power consumption (in watts):
From www.computerbase.de/2017-02/palit-geforce-gtx-1050-ti-kalmx-test/2/#abschnitt_leistungsaufnahmeOh dear.
1) %-s don't work like you think
2) With your approach you have 2 different values from your own slides.
3) For real figures of real cards in real game see chart above.
Come show me that giant power efficiency gap.
480 AIBs:
www.computerbase.de/2016-12/radeon-rx-480-partnerkarten-vergleich-test/4/#abschnitt_so_viel_watt_kosten_die_hoeheren_taktraten
1060 AIBs:
www.computerbase.de/2016-10/geforce-gtx-1060-partnerkarten-vergleich-test/4/#abschnitt_so_viel_watt_kosten_die_hoeheren_taktraten
in games benchmarked both in this review and previous ones, rx480 improved 2-3% averaged across games (which is pretty good result in itself).
regarding these power consumption graphs, anno 2205 is a pretty strange game to use for power consumption test. if nothing else, that game is pretty consistently favoring nvidia cards.
look at the previous page in both these reviews - 1060 gets 44 fps, rx480 gets 33 fps, that is a 33% difference.
in a test machine with an overclocked 6700k, 4 ram sticks and 3 drives (this setup should consume above 100w at load even without graphics card), it would seem that neither card is fully utilized by anno 2205.
The other one:
As everyone can see, GTX 1080 is ~80% more efficient, since it provides ~80% more performance per watt. This is the very definition of energy efficiency. You seriously can't disagree with basic math! I'm sorry, but this is completely ludicrous.No, again see the link I provided and this one;
GTX 1080 182% performance per watt compared to RX 480, and 178% in the other. Different benchmarks showing exactly the same.
I have not manipulated any data, just compressed the charts to show the relevant models. Being dishonest does not help your case.So you are accusing Techpowerup and the sites behind 80+ other reviews which arrived with the same conlusion for fake reviews?:rolleyes:
I think you should learn about statistical outliers is before you start cherry-picking.
You ignored it or didn't comprehend.
You were told, %-s don't work like you think.
You got to an idea that repeating the same statements somehow makes it better.
You were provided with benchmarks and links showing actual power consumption in actual game across AIB 480's and AIB 1060's being roughly in the same ballpark, which you again have ignored.
What are you expecting from me to tell you now?
This thread was supposed to be about GTX 1080 Ti and whatever Nvidia will showcase at GDC.